List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage II
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Yolande of Flanders (b. 1326-1395) m a) Henry IV, Count of Bar (b. 1315-d. 1344), b) Louis II, Count of Flanders (b. 1330-d. 1384)
Margaret of Brabant (b. 1323-d. 1380) married Edward the Black Prince (b. 1330-d. 1376)
Edward II, Count of Barr (b. 1340-1352)
Robert I, Duke of Bar (b. 1344–d. 1411) m Marie of France (b. 1344-d. 1404)with issues
Louis III, Count of Flanders, Count of Nevers and Rethel, Count of Artois and Burgundy (b. 1350–d. 1414) m Blanche de Valois (b. 1350-d. 1409) with issues
Margaret of Brabant (b. 1323-d. 1380) married Edward the Black Prince (b. 1330-d. 1376)
Edward IV of England (b. 1350-1408) m Violante Visconti (b. 1354-d. 1412)with issues
Philippa (b. 1351-1409) married John IV, Duke of Brittany (b. 1339-d. 1399)with issues
Margaret (b. 1353-1377) married John I of Aragon (b. 1350-d. 1393) with issues
Stillborn child
Stillborn child
John, Duke of Brabant (b. 1360-d. 1409) married Marie de Coucy (b. 1366-d. 1404) with issues
Joan (b. 1362-1404) married Charles III of Navarre (b. 1361-d. 1325) with issues
The Castilian and Aragonese crowns split as one supports a Portugese born son while the other supports a German born son
Isabel I of Castile m. Ferdinand II of Aragon, V of Castile
1. Isabel II of Castile m. Manuel I of Portugal
a. Miguel I of Castile and Portugal
b. Isabel of Portugal m. Francis I of France
c. Antonio, Viceroy of East Indies, Duke of Beja
d. Maria of Portugal m. Ferdinand III of Aragon
e. José, Viceroy of West Indies, Duke of Cadiz
f. Alfonso, Prince-Bishop of Toledo
2. Juan, prince of Asturias m. Margaret of Austria
a. Stillborn daughter
3. Juana I of Aragon, III of Navarre and Naples m. Philippe IV of Burgundy, HRE
a. Karl V, Duke of Burgandy, HRE m. Mary Tudor the Elder
b. Eleanor von Habsburg m. Fredrick II, Elector Palatine
c. Isabella von Habsburg m. Christian II of Denmark
d. Ferdinand III of Aragon m. Maria of Portugal and Castile
e. Maximilian, Lord of the Netherlands
3. Maria of Aragon m. Phillibert ii of Savoy *
Has issue
4. Catherine of Aragon m. Arthur I of England
Has issue
*for the sake of peace between her sisters.
in 1498, both Isabel and Juana give birth to healthy sons. In 1499, the Aragonese Cortes present an ultimatum to Ferdinand: his daughter, Isabel, should abdicate the throne to her son or rule only in name. In both cases it is clear that the Cortes doesn't want the Castilian and Portugese influenced Isabel to lead them Isabel. Ferdinand refuses and the petitions go to Juana for support. Philippe is more than happy to help as it will put his son on the Aragon throne. In 1503, he declares his wife to be the rightful heir to the Aragonese throne leads to a massive standoff between the emperor and the king and Queen of castile and Aragon which finally lead to another war of Spanish succession. In the end the mounting loses and the death of Ferdinand II makes both parties sign a truce of peace where the newborn children of the sisters are betrothed. The Isabeline branch gets Castile, Portugal, the colonies and the New World. The Juanan branch gets Aragon (where Juana is just a figure head), Navarre and Naples with Sicily.
Isabel I of Castile m. Ferdinand II of Aragon, V of Castile
1. Isabel II of Castile m. Manuel I of Portugal
a. Miguel I of Castile and Portugal
b. Isabel of Portugal m. Francis I of France
c. Antonio, Viceroy of East Indies, Duke of Beja
d. Maria of Portugal m. Ferdinand III of Aragon
e. José, Viceroy of West Indies, Duke of Cadiz
f. Alfonso, Prince-Bishop of Toledo
2. Juan, prince of Asturias m. Margaret of Austria
a. Stillborn daughter
3. Juana I of Aragon, III of Navarre and Naples m. Philippe IV of Burgundy, HRE
a. Karl V, Duke of Burgandy, HRE m. Mary Tudor the Elder
b. Eleanor von Habsburg m. Fredrick II, Elector Palatine
c. Isabella von Habsburg m. Christian II of Denmark
d. Ferdinand III of Aragon m. Maria of Portugal and Castile
e. Maximilian, Lord of the Netherlands
3. Maria of Aragon m. Phillibert ii of Savoy *
Has issue
4. Catherine of Aragon m. Arthur I of England
Has issue
*for the sake of peace between her sisters.
in 1498, both Isabel and Juana give birth to healthy sons. In 1499, the Aragonese Cortes present an ultimatum to Ferdinand: his daughter, Isabel, should abdicate the throne to her son or rule only in name. In both cases it is clear that the Cortes doesn't want the Castilian and Portugese influenced Isabel to lead them Isabel. Ferdinand refuses and the petitions go to Juana for support. Philippe is more than happy to help as it will put his son on the Aragon throne. In 1503, he declares his wife to be the rightful heir to the Aragonese throne leads to a massive standoff between the emperor and the king and Queen of castile and Aragon which finally lead to another war of Spanish succession. In the end the mounting loses and the death of Ferdinand II makes both parties sign a truce of peace where the newborn children of the sisters are betrothed. The Isabeline branch gets Castile, Portugal, the colonies and the New World. The Juanan branch gets Aragon (where Juana is just a figure head), Navarre and Naples with Sicily.
Extremely unrealistic, if Isabel was her parents’ heir then her Portuguese son would be accepted in both Castile and Aragon with no issue (and Juana’s children would never be anywhere near Spain, making them totally unsuitable, especially in light of their Portuguese cousin)
Margaret of Burgundy (b. 1374–d. 1441) m William II, Duke of Bavaria, Count of Hainaut, Holland and Zeeland (b. 1365–d. 1417)
William III, Duke of Bavaria, Count of Hainaut, Netherlands and Zeeland (b. 1394–d. 1438) m Beatrice of Navarre (b. 1392–d. 1428)
William IV, Duke of Bavaria, Count of Hainaut, Netherlands and Zeeland (b. 1410-?) m
Margaret (b. 1412-?) m
Isabella (b. 1416-?) m
Jacqueline (b. 1401-d. 1436) married John, Duke of Touraine (b. 1398-d. 1417)
Charles VII of France (b. 1417-?) m
Charles IV of Navarre (b. 1421–d. 1461) m Agnes of Cleves (b. 1422-1448)
Charles I of Aragon and V of Navarre (b. 1442–d 1486) married Madeleine de Valois (b. 1443–d 1495)
Charles II of Aragon and VI of Navarre (b. 1464-d. 1518) m Blanca of Castile (b. 1466–d. 1527) with issues
Maria (b. 1467-d. 1513) m Edward I, King of Castile and Leon (b. 1468-d. 1521) with issues
Blanca (b. 1471-d. 1529) m
Magdalena (b. 1474–d. 1532) m
Blanca (b. 1424-d. 1464) married Henry IV, King of Castile and Leon (b. 1425-d. 1474)Henry V, King of Castile and Leon (b. 1446–d 1503) married Margaret of York (b. 1448–d 1508)
Blanca (b. 1466-d. 1527) m Charles II of Aragon and VI of Navarre (b. 1464-d. 1518)with issues
Edward I, King of Castile and Leon (b. 1468-d. 1521) m Maria of Aragon (b. 1467-d. 1513)
Margaret (b. 1473-d. 1524) m
Isabella (b. 1377–d. 1538) m
Charles I, King of Burgundy (b. 1433-d. 1477) married a) Catherine de Valois (b. 1428-d. 1448) and b) Isabella of Bourbon (b. 1434-d. 1468)
Marie (b. 1457-d. 1490) married Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1457-d. 1519) with issues
Philip I king of Burgundy (b. 1468-d. 1523) married a) Cecily of England (b. 1469-d. 1485) and b) Philippa of Guelders (b. 1467-d. 1525) with issues
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Albert Jagiellon, the second son of Sigismund I and Bona Sforza, survives. I have only made it as far as 1631.
King Sigismund I 'the Old' of Poland-Lithuania (b. 1467, d. 1548) - married Barbara Zapolya (b.1495 , d. 1515), Bona Sforza, Duchess of Bari and Rossano (b. 1494, d. 1557)
1. Princess Hedwig (b. 1513, d. 1573) - second wife of Joachim II Hector, Elector of Brandenburg (b. 1505, d. 1571)
a. Elisabeth Magdelena (b. 1537, d. ) - married Francis Otto, Duke of Brunswick-Luneberg & Prince of Luneberg (b. 1530, d. 1559), no issue
b. Sigismund, Prince-Bishop of Magdeburg & Halberstadt (b. 1538, d. 1566)
c. Hedwig (b. 1540, d. 1602)- married Julius, Duke of Brunswick-Luneberg & Prince of Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel (b. 1528, d. 1589), with issue
d. Sophia (b. 1541, d. 1564) - second wife of William of Rosenberg (b. 1535, d. 1592), no issue
e. Joachim (b. 1543, d. 1544)
2. Princess Anna (b. 1515, d. 1520)
3. Princess Isabella (b. 1519, d. 1559) - married King John Zapolya of Hungary (b. 1487, d. 1540)
a. King John II Sigismund Zapolya (b. 1540, d. 1571), never married
4. King Sigismund II Augustus (b. 1520, d. 1572) - married Elisabeth of Austria (b. 1526, d. 1545), Barbara Radziwill (b. 1520, d. 1551), Catherine of Austria (b. 1533, d. 1572)
a. Miscarriage (b. & d. 1554)
5. Princess Sophia (b. 1522, d. 1575) - married Henry V, Duke of Brunswick-Luneberg & Prince of Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel (b. 1489, d. 1568), no issue
6. Princess Anna (b. 1523, d. 1596)
7. Catherine (b. 1526, d. 1583) - married King John III Vasa of Sweden (b. 1537, d. 1592)
a. Isabella (b. 1564, d. 1566)
b. King Sigismund of Sweden, Duke of Opole and Raciborz (deposed in 1599, b. 1566, d. 1632) - married Anne of Austria (b. 1573, d. 1598)
b1. Anne Marie (b. 1593, d. 1600)
b2. Catherine (b. & d. 1594)
b3. Wladyslaw, Duke of Opole and Raciborz (b. 1595, d. 1648) - married Princess Jadwiga of Poland-Lithuania (d. 1617)
* Sigismund Casimir (b. 1613, d. 1630)
* Isabella Catherine (b. & d. 1615)
* Stillborn daughter (b. & d. 1617)
b4. Catherine (b. 1596, d. 1597)
b5. Christopher (b. & d. 1598)
c. Anna (b. 1568, d. 1625)
8. King Albert II, Duke of Bari and Rossano (b. 1527, d. 1573) - married Anna d'Este (b. , d. )
a. King Sigismund III 'the Italian' (b. 1550, d. 1588) - married Maximiliana Maria of Bavaria (b. 1552, d. )
a1. Anna (b. 1570, d. 1572)
a2. Miscarriage (b. & d. 1572)
a3. Miscarriage (b. & d. 1574)
a4. Albert (b. 1576, d. 1582) - betrothed to Catherine Renata of Austria
a5. King Casimir V 'the Young' (b. 1578, d. 1595) - married Catherine Renata of Austria (b. 1576, d. 1599)
a5a. King Sigismund IV Charles (b. 1593, d. 1602) - betrothed to Constance of Austria
a5b. King Albert III 'the Simple (b. 1595, d. 1631, "persuaded" to abdicate, then starved to death) - married to Constance of Austria (b. 1588, d. 1631, died of a stroke)
a5b1. Sigismund (b. 1607, d. 1608)
a5b2. Brother Casimir (b. 1609, d 1672) - chose to become a monk to spite his mother.
a5b3. King Charles I Ferdinand (b. 1612, d. 1634) - married to Queen Cecilia Renata of Austria (b. 1611, d. 1644)
a5b3a. King Charles II Louis (b. 1628, d. 1656) – married to Queen Maria Leopoldine of Austria (b. 1632, d. 1649)
* King Charles III Casimir (b. 1649, d. 1663) – betrothed to Princess Cecilia of Poland-Lithuania (d. 1697)
a5b3b. King Sigismund V Albert (b. 1631, d. 1668) – Queen Eleanora Braganza of Mantua (b. 1630, d. 1686)
* Cecilia – b. 1652, d.1653
* Queen Cecilia ‘the Celibate’ – b. 1653, d. 1697
* Catherine (b. 1654, d. 1689) – first wife of Albert William, Elector Palatine, no issue.
* Charles Wladyslaw – b. 1657, d. 1658
a5b4. Francis Bartholomew, Bishop of Wroclaw and Plock (b. 1613, d. 1655)
a5b5. Wladyslaw, Bishop of Krakow (b. 1614, d. 1694)
a5b6. Anna Constance (b. & d. 1616)
a5b7. Anna Constance (b. 1619) - married to Philip William of Neuberg, Elector Palatine (b. 1615, d. 1690)
a5b7a. Albert William, Elector Palatine (b. 1645, d. 1695) - married Princess Catherine of Poland-Lithuania (d. 1689), married Violante Beatrice of Bavaria (b. 1673, d. 1731), had issue.
a5c. Jadwiga (b. 1598, d. 1617) - first wife of Wladyslaw, Duke of Opole and Raciborz (d. 1648)
b. Bona (b. 1551, d. 1596) - married to Archduke Ernest of Austria (b. 1553, d. 1595)
* Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian III (b. 1570, d. 16) - married to Vittoria of Bari and Rossano (b. 1576, d. 1638), had issue
* Charles (b. & d. 1572)
c. Alessandro Niccolo, Duke of Bari and Rossano (b. 1554, d. 1611) - married Isabella della Rovere (b. 1554, d. 1619)
* Vittoria (b. 1576, d. 1638) - married Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian III (b. 1570, d. 1629)
c2. Alberto II, Duke of Bari and Rossano (b. 1572, d. 1621) - married Eleanor of Austria (b. 1582, d. 1620)
* Maria Carolina, Duchess of Bari and Rossano (b. 1600, d. 16) - married Lorenzo de Medici (b. 1599, d. 1648), had issue
c3. Filippo, Prince of Rossano (b. 1581, d. 1605) - married Giulia d'Este (b. 1588, d. 1645)
* Cesare, Prince of Rossano (twin, b. 1605, d. 1621) - killed Alberto II in revenge for being spurned for Maria Carolina's hand, killed himself while trying to escape.
* Isabella (twin, b. 1605, d. 1656) - chose to become a nun
c4. Bonifacio, Knight of Malta (b. 1585, d. 1618)
d. Gian Galeazzo, Bishop of Bitonto (b. 1555 , d. 1588)
e. Filippo Renato (b. 1557, d. 1560)
f. Francis Bartholomew, Duke of Opole and Raciborz (b. 1559, d. 1573)
g. Ercole (b. 1562, d. 1567)
King Sigismund I 'the Old' of Poland-Lithuania (b. 1467, d. 1548) - married Barbara Zapolya (b.1495 , d. 1515), Bona Sforza, Duchess of Bari and Rossano (b. 1494, d. 1557)
1. Princess Hedwig (b. 1513, d. 1573) - second wife of Joachim II Hector, Elector of Brandenburg (b. 1505, d. 1571)
a. Elisabeth Magdelena (b. 1537, d. ) - married Francis Otto, Duke of Brunswick-Luneberg & Prince of Luneberg (b. 1530, d. 1559), no issue
b. Sigismund, Prince-Bishop of Magdeburg & Halberstadt (b. 1538, d. 1566)
c. Hedwig (b. 1540, d. 1602)- married Julius, Duke of Brunswick-Luneberg & Prince of Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel (b. 1528, d. 1589), with issue
d. Sophia (b. 1541, d. 1564) - second wife of William of Rosenberg (b. 1535, d. 1592), no issue
e. Joachim (b. 1543, d. 1544)
2. Princess Anna (b. 1515, d. 1520)
3. Princess Isabella (b. 1519, d. 1559) - married King John Zapolya of Hungary (b. 1487, d. 1540)
a. King John II Sigismund Zapolya (b. 1540, d. 1571), never married
4. King Sigismund II Augustus (b. 1520, d. 1572) - married Elisabeth of Austria (b. 1526, d. 1545), Barbara Radziwill (b. 1520, d. 1551), Catherine of Austria (b. 1533, d. 1572)
a. Miscarriage (b. & d. 1554)
5. Princess Sophia (b. 1522, d. 1575) - married Henry V, Duke of Brunswick-Luneberg & Prince of Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel (b. 1489, d. 1568), no issue
6. Princess Anna (b. 1523, d. 1596)
7. Catherine (b. 1526, d. 1583) - married King John III Vasa of Sweden (b. 1537, d. 1592)
a. Isabella (b. 1564, d. 1566)
b. King Sigismund of Sweden, Duke of Opole and Raciborz (deposed in 1599, b. 1566, d. 1632) - married Anne of Austria (b. 1573, d. 1598)
b1. Anne Marie (b. 1593, d. 1600)
b2. Catherine (b. & d. 1594)
b3. Wladyslaw, Duke of Opole and Raciborz (b. 1595, d. 1648) - married Princess Jadwiga of Poland-Lithuania (d. 1617)
* Sigismund Casimir (b. 1613, d. 1630)
* Isabella Catherine (b. & d. 1615)
* Stillborn daughter (b. & d. 1617)
b4. Catherine (b. 1596, d. 1597)
b5. Christopher (b. & d. 1598)
c. Anna (b. 1568, d. 1625)
8. King Albert II, Duke of Bari and Rossano (b. 1527, d. 1573) - married Anna d'Este (b. , d. )
a. King Sigismund III 'the Italian' (b. 1550, d. 1588) - married Maximiliana Maria of Bavaria (b. 1552, d. )
a1. Anna (b. 1570, d. 1572)
a2. Miscarriage (b. & d. 1572)
a3. Miscarriage (b. & d. 1574)
a4. Albert (b. 1576, d. 1582) - betrothed to Catherine Renata of Austria
a5. King Casimir V 'the Young' (b. 1578, d. 1595) - married Catherine Renata of Austria (b. 1576, d. 1599)
a5a. King Sigismund IV Charles (b. 1593, d. 1602) - betrothed to Constance of Austria
a5b. King Albert III 'the Simple (b. 1595, d. 1631, "persuaded" to abdicate, then starved to death) - married to Constance of Austria (b. 1588, d. 1631, died of a stroke)
a5b1. Sigismund (b. 1607, d. 1608)
a5b2. Brother Casimir (b. 1609, d 1672) - chose to become a monk to spite his mother.
a5b3. King Charles I Ferdinand (b. 1612, d. 1634) - married to Queen Cecilia Renata of Austria (b. 1611, d. 1644)
a5b3a. King Charles II Louis (b. 1628, d. 1656) – married to Queen Maria Leopoldine of Austria (b. 1632, d. 1649)
* King Charles III Casimir (b. 1649, d. 1663) – betrothed to Princess Cecilia of Poland-Lithuania (d. 1697)
a5b3b. King Sigismund V Albert (b. 1631, d. 1668) – Queen Eleanora Braganza of Mantua (b. 1630, d. 1686)
* Cecilia – b. 1652, d.1653
* Queen Cecilia ‘the Celibate’ – b. 1653, d. 1697
* Catherine (b. 1654, d. 1689) – first wife of Albert William, Elector Palatine, no issue.
* Charles Wladyslaw – b. 1657, d. 1658
a5b4. Francis Bartholomew, Bishop of Wroclaw and Plock (b. 1613, d. 1655)
a5b5. Wladyslaw, Bishop of Krakow (b. 1614, d. 1694)
a5b6. Anna Constance (b. & d. 1616)
a5b7. Anna Constance (b. 1619) - married to Philip William of Neuberg, Elector Palatine (b. 1615, d. 1690)
a5b7a. Albert William, Elector Palatine (b. 1645, d. 1695) - married Princess Catherine of Poland-Lithuania (d. 1689), married Violante Beatrice of Bavaria (b. 1673, d. 1731), had issue.
a5c. Jadwiga (b. 1598, d. 1617) - first wife of Wladyslaw, Duke of Opole and Raciborz (d. 1648)
b. Bona (b. 1551, d. 1596) - married to Archduke Ernest of Austria (b. 1553, d. 1595)
* Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian III (b. 1570, d. 16) - married to Vittoria of Bari and Rossano (b. 1576, d. 1638), had issue
* Charles (b. & d. 1572)
c. Alessandro Niccolo, Duke of Bari and Rossano (b. 1554, d. 1611) - married Isabella della Rovere (b. 1554, d. 1619)
* Vittoria (b. 1576, d. 1638) - married Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian III (b. 1570, d. 1629)
c2. Alberto II, Duke of Bari and Rossano (b. 1572, d. 1621) - married Eleanor of Austria (b. 1582, d. 1620)
* Maria Carolina, Duchess of Bari and Rossano (b. 1600, d. 16) - married Lorenzo de Medici (b. 1599, d. 1648), had issue
c3. Filippo, Prince of Rossano (b. 1581, d. 1605) - married Giulia d'Este (b. 1588, d. 1645)
* Cesare, Prince of Rossano (twin, b. 1605, d. 1621) - killed Alberto II in revenge for being spurned for Maria Carolina's hand, killed himself while trying to escape.
* Isabella (twin, b. 1605, d. 1656) - chose to become a nun
c4. Bonifacio, Knight of Malta (b. 1585, d. 1618)
d. Gian Galeazzo, Bishop of Bitonto (b. 1555 , d. 1588)
e. Filippo Renato (b. 1557, d. 1560)
f. Francis Bartholomew, Duke of Opole and Raciborz (b. 1559, d. 1573)
g. Ercole (b. 1562, d. 1567)
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Eleanor of England (b. 1306-d. 1368) married Wilhelm IV, Count of Hainaut, Holland and Zeeland (b. 1307-d. 1345)
Wilhelm V, Count of Hainaut, Holland and Zeeland (b. 1324–d. 1381) married Joanna I, Duchess of Brabant (b. 1322–d 1406)
Wilhelm, Duke of Brabant, Count of Hainaut, Holland and Zeeland (b. 1346-?) m
Eleanor (b. 1348-?) m
Margaret (b. 1352-?)
Margaret (b. 1328-?) m
Philippa (b. 1332-?) m
Edward II of England (b. 1282-?) married Margaret of France (b. 1282/79/84-?)
Isabella of France (b. 1395-?) married Charles I of Naples (b. 1398-?)
Edward III, King of England (b. 1300-?) m
Thomas, Earl of Norfolk (b. 1301-?). m
Eleanor (b. 1304-?) m
Margaret (b. 1307-?) m
Elizabeth (b. 1310-?) m
John Earl of Kent (b. 1314-?) m
Mary (b. 1316-?) m
Margaret of France (b. 1288-?) married Ferdinand IV of Castile and Leon (b. 1285-?) Joanna (b. 1306-?) m
Alfonso XI, King of Castile and Leon (b. 1308-?) m
Isabella (b. 1311-?) m
Isabella of France (b. 1395-?) married Charles I of Naples (b. 1398-?)
Charles II, King of Naples (b. 1314-?) m
Joanna (b. 1317-?) m
Maria (b. 1322-?) m
Isabella (b. 1325-?) m
Catherine (b. 1328-?) m
I had an idea that wouldn't let go:
Fernando VII, King of Spain [1808; 1814-1833] (1784-1833) 1m: 1802 Maria Antonia of Naples (1784-1806); 2m: 1816 Maria Isabel of Portugal (1797-1818); 3m: 1819 Maria Josepha of Saxony (1803-1829); 4m: 1829 Maria Cristina of the Two Sicilies (b.1806)
[1] obviously Sisi still marries Franz Joseph. This match has the added value in Spain of being to a "liberal" house (Bavaria), but without having to throw the baby out with the bathwater, since her sisters are still empress of Austria and queen of Naples. It mitigates Helene the "embarrassment" of having to be the maid-of-honour at her little sister's wedding that she doesn't practically become an old maid afterwards. Not sure how Nene and Felipe meet just yet though
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Fernando VII, King of Spain [1808; 1814-1833] (1784-1833) 1m: 1802 Maria Antonia of Naples (1784-1806); 2m: 1816 Maria Isabel of Portugal (1797-1818); 3m: 1819 Maria Josepha of Saxony (1803-1829); 4m: 1829 Maria Cristina of the Two Sicilies (b.1806)
[1m.] Miscarriage (1804)
[1m.] Miscarriage (1805)
[2m.] Maria Luisa Isabel (1817-1818)
[2m.] Stillborn Child (1818)
[4m.] Felipe VI, King of Spain [from 1833] (b.1830) m: 1854 Helene Karoline Therese in Bavaria (b.1834) [1]
Elena Maria Luisa (b.1856)
Maria Cristina (b.1857)
Stillborn Daughter (1860)
Luis Fernando, Prince de los Asturias (b.1862)
Stillborn Daughter (1864)
Maria Isabel Eugenia (b.1867)
Felipe Guilherme, Infante of Spain (b.1869)
Carlos Teodoro, Infante of Spain (b.1872)
[4m.] Maria Isabel Fernanda (b.1832) m: 1850 Ferdinando IV, Grand Duke of Tuscany (b.1835)
Maria Antonietta (1853-1860)
Ferdinando (1856-1860)
Maria Luisa Cristina (b.1858)
Stillborn Son (1859)
Stillborn Son (1862)
Leopoldo Filippo, Archduke of Austria (b.1864)
Maria Isabella Elena (1866-1869)
Ferdinando Cristiano, Archduke of Austria (b.1870)
Anna Maria Antonietta (b.1873)
[1] obviously Sisi still marries Franz Joseph. This match has the added value in Spain of being to a "liberal" house (Bavaria), but without having to throw the baby out with the bathwater, since her sisters are still empress of Austria and queen of Naples. It mitigates Helene the "embarrassment" of having to be the maid-of-honour at her little sister's wedding that she doesn't practically become an old maid afterwards. Not sure how Nene and Felipe meet just yet though
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Also the boy prevents decades or chaos and destruction. Preventing Spain becoming a completely failed state
But not just no Carlist Wars. A toddler on the throne gives parliamentarism a real chance pretty early on.
Margaret the Elder, daughter of Philip III, actually married Edward I as a second wife. Here, Edward I dies in place of Eleanor of Castile, and Margaret marries Edward II.
Margaret the Younger was the daughter of Philip IV and Joanna I, Queen of Navarre
likely they have a happier marriage and the "She Wolf of France" can go cause trouble in Castile
likely they have a happier marriage and the "She Wolf of France" can go cause trouble in Castile
Isabella's older sister, Margaret, lives to get married in Castile while Isabella gets married in Naples.
If Marguerite lives and Edward is taken then Isabelle would wind up paired with either a Habsburg or a Luxemburg imperial candidate, depending on how Heinrich VII's election shakes out
