List alternate PMs or Presidents

[Stuyvesant]

This is the Presidential List of my soon-to-be-TLIAD The Hero of Nijmegen, which contrary to what you might think is a TL centered on the Mayors of Albany, NY

The Hero of Nijmegen

34. 1949-1957: Dwight D. Eisenhower/Harry S Truman (Democratic) [1]
def. 1948: Douglas MacArthur/Harold Stassen, (Republican) George Patton/Strom Thurmond (Dixiecrat)
def. 1952: Robert Taft/Wayne Morse (Republican)
35. 1957-1965: Richard Nixon/Joseph Foss (Republican) [2]
def. 1956: W. Averell Harriman/Adlai Stevenson (Democratic)
def. 1960: Estes Kefauver/Michael DiSalle (Democratic)
1965-1967: Pat Brown†/Hubert Humphrey (Democratic) [3]
def. 1964: William F. Knowland/William W. Scranton, (Republican)
1967-1967: Hubert Humphrey/VACANT (Democratic)
1969-1973: Hubert Humphrey/Albert Gore (Democratic)
def. 1968: Ronald Reagan/Jim Rhodes (Republican)
1973-1981: Nelson Rockefeller/Pete McCloskey (Republican)
def. 1972: George Wallace/Ed Muskie, (Democratic) Eugene McCarthy/VACANT (Independent)
def. 1976: Mo Udall/Henry Jackson (Democratic)
1981-1985: Frank Church/Ted Kennedy (Democratic)
def 1980: Pete McClosky/John B. Anderson (Republican), Phil Crane/James Buckley (Conservative)[4]
1985-1993: Ted Kennedy/Reuben Askew (Democratic) [5]
def 1984: John Heinz/Jeane Kirkpatrick (Republican/Conservative fusion)
def 1988: Pat Robertson/Donald Trump (Republican) [6]
1993-1997: Jack Kemp/Alexander Haig (Republican)
def 1992: Mario Cuomo/Joe Biden (Democratic)
1997-2005: Mario Cuomo/Joe Biden (Democratic)
def. 1996: Jack Kemp/Alexander Haig, (Republican) Steve Forbes/Dick Lamm (Reform)
def. 2000: Lamar Alexander/Gilbert Johnston (Republican)
2005-2013: Edward Bush/John McCain (Republican) [7]
def 2004: Joe Biden/Ralph Nader (Democratic)
def 2008: James Elgin/Andrea Williams (Democratic)
2013-2017: Charles King/August Cuomo (Democratic) [8]
2017-: TBD/August Cuomo [9]
2016: Charles King/August Cuomo, (Democratic) Bernard Sanders/Tilly Clooney, (Republican) Ramón Estevez/Edgar Juniper (Independence)

[1] - In 1948 General Douglas MacArthur announced his candidacy for President of the United States under the Republican Party on platform of strongly opposing the Soviet Union and China as well as refusing to participate in any sort of "United Nations" that included said communist states. Harry Truman offered to run as Eisenhower's Vice President, an offer Eisenhower accepted after George Patton (Who did not die ITTL) entered the Democratic race after receiving an endorsement from several southern Democrats. MacArthur and Eisenhower both received their party nominations, and after the convention accepted Truman as Vice Presidential candidate George Patton started a 'Dixiecrat' candidacy. He continued Truman's civil rights agenda, and led the UN to a victory in the Korean War, although it was a close call, the Chinese did not intervene on the North Korean's behalf.

[2] - Freshman Senator Richard Nixon campaigned on a steady-as-she-goes management promise.

[3] - Pat Brown was assassinated by a member of the Ku Klux Klan, this led to both said organization being banned as well as a strengthening of the cause of civil rights.

[4] - Vice President McCloskey won the nomination in a brokered convention, and in response conservative Republicans, who had been stewing under Rockefeller for 8 years walked out and formed their own party, modeled after Vice Presidential candidate James Buckley's New York Conservative Party

[5] - After President Church announced his diagnosis with thyroid cancer in 1984, he declined to run for reelection, with Vice President Kennedy easily winning renomination

[6] - Following their fusion ticket in 1984, the Conservative Party merged back into the Republican Party

[7] - The popular governor of Connecticut and scion of the Bush Political Family ran on a campaign of cleaning up Washington, as well as pointing out Vice President Biden's fallacies.

[8] - The son of Civil Rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. (who was never assassinated ITTL) Charles King ran on a platform of cracking down on police brutality and other racial inequities.

[9] - The Popularity of Estevez's candidacy was enough to throw the election to the House of Representatives, the result remains to be seen.

 

[The Uchronian]

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1963-1969: Lyndon Baines Johnson (DEM-TX)/Hubert Horatio Humphrey (DEM-MN)​

Johnson took office after the assassination of Kennedy and spent his early Presidency expanding civil rights and welfare in a program known as the "Great Society". However, his presidency became increasingly dominated by the Vietnam War, making him increasingly unpopular. Type "D1" to see more details of his presidency. Type "P1" to see more details about Johnson. Type "964" to see more details about the 1964 election.

1969-1973: Warren Perley Knowles (REP-WI)/David Francis Cargo (REP-NM)​

Knowles took office promising to win the Vietnam War and end unrest at home. His perceived failure at both - with the collapse of South Vietnam and continuing student protests - likely lost him re-election. Type "D2" to see more details of his presidency. Type "P2" to see more details about Knowles. Type "968" to see more details about the 1968 election. Type "972" to see more details about the 1972 election.

1973-1975: Hubert Horatio Humphrey (DEM-MN)/Wilbur Daigh Mills (DEM-AR)​

Humphrey ran for the second time in as many elections and won, although he declared that he would not run for a second term due to a diagnosis of bladder cancer. As President, Humphrey continued the "Great Society" while moving towards detente in the Cold War. Type "D3" to see more details of his presidency. Type "P3" to see more details about Humphrey. Type "972" to see more details about the 1972 election.

1975-1975: Hubert Horatio Humphrey (DEM-MN)/Vacant​

After a scandal in 1975, Vice President Mills acknowledged his alcoholism and resigned from the Vice Presidency. Type "S" to see more details about the scandal.

1975-1977: Hubert Horatio Humphrey (DEM-MN)/Barbara Charline Jordan (DEM-TX)​

Humphrey appointed Representative Barbara Jordan to the Vice Presidency. In the latter half of his Presidency, Humphrey gained renown for his efforts to broker peace in the Middle East after the Ramadan War and to pass the 27th Amendment, but his administration's mishandled response to the San Onofre disaster, the continuing Angola crisis, and a worsening economy cast a pall over the latter half of the administration. Type "D3" to see more details of his presidency. Type "P3" to see more details about Humphrey.

1977-1981: Walter Joseph Hickel (REP-AK)/John Henry Sununu (REP-NH)​

Hickel's presidency was marked by his expansion of environmental regulation, an improving economy, and a peaceful, internationalist, foreign policy, but his refusal to intervene in the Angolan crisis, return of the Panama Canal Zone, and poor relations with Congress led to his loss of re-election. Type "D4" to see more details of his presidency. Type "P4" to see more details about Hickel. Type "976" to see more details about the 1976 election. Type "980" to see more details about the 1980 election.

1981-1985: Jesse Marvin Unruh (DEM-CA)/John Davison Rockefeller (DEM-WV)​

Unruh's presidency was marked by increased government intervention in the economy, the founding of the National Healthcare Program, and a continued focus on civil rights. His leftism and larger-than-life personality were controversial, and it is an open question whether he would have won a second term had a cancer diagnosis not made him the second Democratic president in a row to refuse a second term. Type "D5" to see more details of his presidency. Type "P5" to see more details about Unruh. Type "980" to see more details about the 1980 election.

1985-????: Lawton Mainor Chiles, Jr. (DEM-FL)/Patricia Nell Scott Schroeder (DEM-CO)​

As the Chiles Administration is ongoing, it is unclear what its main events will be. Type "D6" to see more details of his presidency thus far. Type "P6" to see more details about Chiles. Type "984" to see more details about the 1984 election.

This is honestly very interesting-would you be willing to do a sequel to this, possibly?

 

[Joshua Ben Ari]

Rockefeller died in 1979, so McCloskey would have taken over. Unless you're butterflying that away

 

[Steve Brinson]

>P2

>968

>P4

>984

>S

>search Ramadan War

Hang on, I'll set up a Shared Worlds thread for this...

This is honestly very interesting-would you be willing to do a sequel to this, possibly?

Define "sequel" - I'm contemplating a timeline, and in the very early stages of planning a UK PM list.

 

[Stuyvesant]

Rockefeller died in 1979, so McCloskey would have taken over. Unless you're butterflying that away

PoD in 1944, so yes.

 

[Joshua Ben Ari]

PoD in 1944, so yes.

Okay The list looks good otherwise

 

[The Uchronian]

Hang on, I'll set up a Shared Worlds thread for this...



Define "sequel" - I'm contemplating a timeline, and in the very early stages of planning a UK PM list.

Well, a sequel as in, subsequent Presidents after Chiles, to any given point in time. Hopefully that clears things up?

So, anyway, I've finally gotten around to completing a future Presidents list of my own. This is a fairly realistic scenario that is essentially one of the plausible best case scenarios for the GOP going forward: the GOP spends time in the wilderness, but only for about 12 years before they're able to make a surprisingly effective comeback.

Donald Trump (Republican-NY) 2016-2017[1]
Mike Pence (Republican-IN) 2017-2020[2]
Kirsten Gillibrand (Democratic-NY) 2020-2028[3]
Kamala Harris (Democratic-CA) 2028-2032[4]
Marco Rubio (Republican-FL) 2032-2040[5]

[1]Referred to as the "Chickensh*t" President(amongst many other epithets) in popular culture-widely reviled by Democrats and some independents for having run a campaign fuelled by racism, misogyny and other forms of prejudice, and some doubt remains to this day as to whether or not he even won entirely fairly. Just prior to his leaving, Trump suspended America's membership in NATO.

[2]The most notoriously "lame duck" President since Jimmy Carter, and rather less liked personally. During his term, the U.S. economy slipped into a fairly significant recession, and a failed Russian attempt to subvert the Baltics resulted in the global humiliation of Vladimir Putin, which caused him to relinquish the Presidency of the Russian Federation to Dmitri Medvedev in 2018(Putin would still serve as Prime Minister for a time, as he had from 2008-12). Two final significant ISIL terrorist attacks did little to salvage Pence's popularity, or that of the GOP in general, and, in 2018, the Democrats were able to acquire 51 seats in the Senate, including with a surprise victory in Texas by Julian Castro over Ted Cruz(although losing Joe Manchin in W.V. to a Republican). He ran again in 2020, but with hate crimes and increasing concerns about domestic terrorism on the minds of many worried Americans, as well as displeasure over bad Republican economic policy prolonging recovery, he ended up losing to well liked mainstream Democrat Kirsten Gillibrand in a 400 EV landslide(although this was in no small part due to Libertarians taking nearly 9% of the national vote, and some moderate Republicans finally jumping ship; Georgia was lost by 2 percent and Texas was far closer than they had hoped), and the Democrats received a total of 62 seats in the Senate, as well as a 15 seat majority in the House.

[3]Former Senator Gillibrand made a name for herself by becoming a public defender of civil rights, and vowed to combat hatred of all forms; that, and her selection of the highly respected Oregon Senator Jeff Merkley to be her Vice-President ensured that the Democrats would be highly rewarded for their efforts. One of the first things done was to fill the two vacancies left by the departures of Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer, in December 2019 and September 2020 respectively(Scalia's seat was filled by a conservative in 2017, albeit a relatively moderate one that neither Donald Trump, Mike Pence, or the Tea Party Republicans had really wanted; this was primarily thanks to Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, and a certain few other Republicans who would not support any extreme hardliners, necessitating a compromise). Domestic terrorism became a major problem during her time, and there was a major spat of generalized political violence that occurred after she won her second term: 1,800 people were killed over the next two weeks, and martial law had to be declared in several states and metro areas. And, to top this, an attempt to carry out a second 9/11 using cargo planes was only narrowly averted. Nevertheless, Americans held together, and President Gillibrand's approval rating actually reached as high as 75% on New Year's Day, 2025.

The most significant geopolitical event of the decade may have been the attempted coup in Russia in October, 2024, that was carried out in an attempt to prevent the Just Russia candidate, who won with 55% of the vote in the final round(Medvedev, although he successfully distanced himself from Putin's actions during that man's third term, had declined to run again) from gaining office; it failed, but not before hundreds of civilians died in the cross fire. The reunification of the two Koreas after the Second Korean War, however, was a close second, and President Gillibrand's own efforts to broker peace highly lauded by the international community.

By the time she retired, Gillibrand had a respectable 62% approval rating, and Calif. Senator Kamala Harris was able to ride her coattails to win a respectable 360 EV majority over former Texas Senator Ted Cruz(who narrowly won the nomination after a hard-fought primary, particularly against Nebraska Republican Ben Sasse).

[4]Harris was well liked, but sadly, any realistic hope she might have had of winning a second term were cut short by a major worldwide recession in 2030, and the U.S. was hit particularly hard. Harris narrowly lost to former Florida Senator Marco Rubio in 2032, when he managed to narrowly win Minnesota, Pennsylvania, and Michigan in a surprise upset, gaining just over 280 EVs. But like Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama, Harris would later gain a widely positive image for what she would later do outside of office.

[5]Marco Rubio's political philosophy had genuinely shifted since the election of Trump 16 years earlier: he had since abandoned much of the old orthodoxy on social issues, taking a far more libertarian stance, and also mellowing out on economic issues as well. Under his leadership as Chairman of the Republican Party between 2027-32(the first two of those years he spent as Senator, prior to retirement), the GOP had also purged many of the remaining Trumpist elements of the party, allowing them to do a fair bit of effective rebranding. During his first term, President Rubio and moderate Republicans worked with Democrats to do the best they could to alleviate the recession, and he also approved additional funding to ATF and FBI so they could improve on their efforts to smoke out the remnants of "Alt-Right" terrorist activity in the country, particularly after an assassination attempt on popular Utah governor Evan McMullin in 2033, and another against former New York governor Zephyr Teachout in 2035.
In the 2036 elections, Rubio ran against the Democratic ticket of Ohio Governor P.G. Sittenfeld and Tulsi Gabbard, and won just under 310 EVs, by again narrowly winning Pennsylvania, Minnesota and Michigan, thanks to swing voters, as well as picking up Virginia. (Sittenfeld, though likable, was genuinely having difficulty running a good campaign)
Nothing much of note actually happened in Rubio's second term, but concerns did arise about a final surge of the far right in Eastern Europe, as the global recession of 2030 had been particularly destructive to many of these countries(to the point that Hungary and Poland actually left the E.U.), as well as in Central Asia. As of 2040, America and Russia are both keeping a watchful eye on these areas but nobody knows if or when things will go south from there.
The 2040 Presidential Election will be held be on November 6th of that year, and will be held between Republicans George P. Bush, former governor of Texas, and former Alaska Congressman Track Palin, versus the left-populist former Senator and Congressperson from, and governor of, Arizona, Kyrsten Sinema, with Hollywood actress Jennifer Lawrence, who has served as a California congresswoman since 2036, as her running mate. Libertarian ex-Republican Justin Amash and Green Party candidate Rosa Clemente are also in the running.

 

[Steve Brinson]

Well, a sequel as in, subsequent Presidents after Chiles, to any given point in time. Hopefully that clears things up?

I may do that, but as the timeline would be set in the late 80s and early 90s, I don't want to overplay my hand there.

 

[Oppo]

I was bored, so I decided to create a retro list myself.

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List of Presidents of the United States

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1960: Richard Millhouse Nixon/Henry Cabot Lodge II (Republican)*
1960: John Fitzgerald Kennedy/Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat)
1961-1965: Henry Cabot Lodge II/Vacant (Republican)
1965-1969: Henry Cabot Lodge II/John Sherman Cooper (Republican)
1964: Hubert Horatio Humphrey/Gaylord Anton Nelson (Democrat)
1969-1977: John Bowden Connally Jr./Robert Sargent Shriver Jr. (Democrat)
1968: William Edward Miller/William Warren Scranton (Republican)
1972: Robert Hutchinson Finch/John Anthony Volpe (Republican)
1977-1981: Robert Sargent Shriver Jr./Peter Wallace Rodino (Democrat)
1976: James Lane Buckley/James Allen Rhodes (Republican), Elliot Lee Richardson/David Rockefeller (Liberal Republican)
1981-1989: James Lane Buckley/Guy Adrian Vander Jagt (Republican)
1980: Robert Sargent Shriver Jr./Peter Wallace Rodino (Democrat)
1984: John Young Brown Jr,/Woodrow Wilson Goode (Democrat)
1989-19??: Lee Herbert Hamilton/Ernest Fredrick Hollings (Democrat)
1988: Guy Adrian Vander Jagt/James Robert Thompson (Republican)

*Assassinated prior to swearing in by Richard Paul Pavlick, on December 11th, 1960.

 

[Beata Beatrix]

Did I start this trend?

 

[Riley Uhr]

New Zealand Prime ministers

National
Labour
The New Zealand Party

1960-1969 Keith Holyoake
1969-1974 Norman Kirk
1974-1975 Bill Rowling
1975-1978 Robert Muldoon
1978-1984 Bill Rowling
1984-1985 Sir Bob Jones
1985-1987 Leslie Dickson
1987-1996 Jim Bolger
1996-2005 Helen Clark
2005-2008 Don Brash
2008-2009 Helen Clark
2009-2017 Phil Goff
2017- Judith Collins

 

[Comisario]

1970-1974: Edward Heath (Conservative majority)
1970: Harold Wilson (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)

- The first Heath ministry constituted a dark time for Britain. Both unemployment and inflation were on the rise, the Troubles in Northern Ireland were intensifying through bombing campaigns in Britain and increasing violence on the streets of Ulster's towns and cities, and the trade union movement was pushing Heath's hold on power to the brink: the country was, in no uncertain terms, heading towards disaster. Despite achieving his personal goal of seeing Britain join the European Economic Community, Heath's standing in the country was ever a low one. When Heath went to the country in January 1974, asking for a renewed mandate to deal with the crises Britain faced, many Tories were ready to decamp to the Opposition benches. But, by some miracle, the government held on at the behest of Jeremy Thorpe's Liberal Party as Labour regained only a handful of seats in the 1974 election.

1974-1975: Edward Heath (Conservative minority with Liberal confidence and supply)
1974: Harold Wilson (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)

- Heath and Thorpe were unlikely bedfellows, but the emergency the country faced was far too pressing for any one man to deal with. Unwilling to enter into a full coalition, Thorpe was nevertheless pointed to by Heath as the man who'd saved the nation. In retrospect, historians generally agree that he'd doomed it. By forming a pact, the Liberals alienated their youthful activists, the Conservatives strained themselves not to dismiss electoral reform out of hand, and Labour appeared to be on the rise once more. The polls showed dismal ratings for both the Conservative and Liberal leaders (compounded in the latter case by Thorpe's legal troubles in early 1975). The minority government couldn't hold on and, after months of strikes, fuel crises and two bombings (one at the Royal Festival Hall in London and another at Liverpool Lime Street station), a year of uncertainty came to an end with a new election.

1975-1978: Michael Foot (Labour majority)
1975: Edward Heath (Conservative), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)

- Foot took over from a depressed and demoralised Wilson, fending off a host of challenges from the party's right wing and edging out Jim Callaghan on the 5th ballot. His surprise win at the 1975 election shocked commentators and did little to engender business confidence. Immediately, Foot set in motion a referendum on the EEC (which was narrowly won by the anti-EEC campaign), reversed Heath's policies on credit and exchange controls, and instituted large-scale cuts to the Ministry of Defence in order to pay for his expansion of the welfare state. With a technical majority of 31 seats, Foot appeared to command a great deal of confidence in the Commons and the country was thankful for a stable government for once (despite discontent with some of Labour's economic policies). In the end, though, Foot wouldn't last long after the Argentine invasion of the Falklands in September 1977.

1978-: John Smith (Labour majority)

- The sending of the fleet to the Falklands did not inspire the heroic victories Britain hoped for, with images of the burning wreckage of HMS Plymouth etching themselves into many Britons' memories as a reminder that Britain had lost its place in the world once and for all. Argentina beat back British forces over the winter as a settlement was reached, forcing Britain to cede control of the territory to Argentina and ensuring that Britain would not place official sanctions on Argentina in retaliation. The massive defeat caused a crisis in the government and the Labour Party, as almost twenty MPs resigned the Labour whip and sat as 'Democratic Labour' or 'Independent Social Democrat' members in protest at Foot's tragic handling of the crisis. In February 1978, with most of the major names inside the Cabinet tainted by the 'Malvinas Crisis' and only Tony Benn standing from the left wing of the party, it was incumbent on the 39 year old Trade Secretary, John Smith, to take up the banner of the Labour moderates and restore faith in the party. Winning handily against Benn in the third round of the Labour leadership contest, Smith now looks to the future with a bleak vision: he will have to soon face the electorate, knowing in his heart that defeat is inevitable.

 

[Riley Uhr]

1892-1896: Grover Cleveland (Democratic)
Benjamin Harrison (Republican),James B Weaver (Populist)

1896-1904: William Mckinley (Republican)
James B Weaver (Populist),William Jennings Brian (Democratic)
James B Weaver (Peoples),Aldai Stevenson (Democratic)

1904-1908: James B Weaver (Peoples)
Aldai Stevenson (Democratic),William Taft (Republican)

1908-1912: Aldai Stevenson (Democratic)
James B Weaver (Peoples),William Taft (Republican)

1912-1924: Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive Peoples)
Woodrow Wilson(Democratic),William Taft (Republican)
Woodrow Wilson(Democratic),Charles E Hughes (Republican)
Warren G Harding (Republican),James E Cox (Democratic)

1924-1928: Calvin Coolidge (Republican)
Robert M La Follete (Progressive),John W Davis (Democratic)

1928-1936: Robert M La Follete (Progressive)
Calvin Coolidge (Republican),Al Smith (Democratic)
Herbet Hoover (Republican),Al Smith (Democratic)

1936-1949: Franklin D Roosevelt (Democratic)
Alf Landon (Republican),Thomas Dewey (Progressive)
Thomas Dewey (Progressive),Wendell Willkie (Republican)
Thomas Dewey (Progressive),Wendell Willkie (Republican)
Thomas Dewey (Progressive),John W Bricker (Republican)

1949-1952: William O Douglas (Democratic)

1952-1960: Dwight D Eisenhower (Progressive)
William Douglas (Democratic),Robert Taft (Republican)
Douglas MacArthur (Republican), William Douglas (Democratic)

1960-1964: John F Kennedy (Democratic)
Richard Nixon (Republican),Lyndon B Johnson (Progressive)

1964-1972: Lyndon B Johnson (Progressive)
John F Kennedy (Democratic),Barry Goldwater (Republican)
Margaret Chase Smith (Republican),Hubert Humphrey (Democratic),George Wallace (American)

1972-1980: Margaret Chase Smith (Republican)
Henry Jackson (Democratic),George Mcgovern (Progressive)
Jimmy Carter (Democratic),George Mcgovern (Progressive)

1980-1988: Jimmy Carter (Democratic)
Ronald Reagan (Republican),Walter Mondale (Progressive)
Ronald Reagan (Republican),Walter Mondale (Progressive)

1988-1996: Ronald Reagan (Republican)
Geraldine Ferraro (Progressive), Pat Shroder (Democratic)
Geraldine Ferraro (Progressive), Jerry Brown (Democratic)

1996-2004: Geraldine Ferraro (Progressive)
Ronald Reagan (Republican), Al Gore (Democratic)
Bill Clinton (Democratic),John McCain (Republican)


2004-2012: Hillary Clinton (Democratic)
John McCain (Republican),Bernie Sanders (Progressive)
Rick Santorum (Republican),Bernie Sanders (Progressive)

2012-Present: Bernie Sanders (Progressive)
Bill Clinton (Democratic),Rick Santorum (Republican)
Ross Perot (Republican),Donald Trump (Democrat)

 

[Oppo]

You're getting on a PETA list, there's a lot of dead butterflies on the floor.

 

[BlackentheBorg]

The "After Trump" list to end all "After Trump" lists

Oh my sweet summer child.

*cracks knuckles*

Too Many Cooks Spoil The Broth (or: America collectively says "...What the hell is this?")

2016 - Donald Trump/Mike Pence [Republican]
Defeated '16: Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine [Democrat], Gary Johnson/Will Weld [Libertarian], Jill Stein/Ajamu Baraka [Green], Even McMullin/Mindy Finn [independent/"Alternative" Republican], Darrel Castle/Scott Bradley [Constitution], Rocky De La Fuente/Michael Steinberg [Reform]
Defeated '20: Bill De Baiso/Tammy Baldwin [Democrat], Jarrod Williams/Greg Orman ["Alternative" Democrat], Bill Weld/Austin Peterson [Establishment Libertarian], Adam Kokesh/Darryl Perry [Freedom Libertarian], Ellen Brown/Ben Manski [Green], Scott Copeland/Rick Jore [Constitution], Dan Ritter/Norah O'Donnell [independent], Mark Cuban/Zoe Lofgren [independent], Bill Gates/Lyndon Rive [independent/"Humanity"], Jesse Ventura/Jeff Boss [independent/"Truth"], Beau Willimon/Jacque Fresco† [independent/"Revolution"]

2024 - Nina Turner/Arik Bjorn [Progressive Democrat]
Defeated: Julian Castro/Tom Steyer [Establishment Democrat], Mike Pence/Joe Walsh [Eagle Republican], Elise Stefanik/Lindsey Graham [Establishment Republican], Fred Karger/Justin Amash [Civil Republican] Joy Waymire/Derrick Michael Reid [United Libertarian], Arn Menconi/Melissa Schlag [Green], Laurence Kotlikoff/Zoltan Istvan [independent/"Advancement"], Justin Wedes/Markus Kessler [Revolution]

2028 - Brian Sandoval/Markwayne Mullin [Civil Republican]
Defeated '28: Nina Turner/Arik Bjorn[Progressive Democrat], Maggie Hassan/John Bel Edwards [Establishment Democrat], Shaun King/Marissa Johnson ["Afrocentric" Progressive], Tom Cotton/Kris Kobach [Establishment], Michael Flynn/Curt Schilling [Eagle], Randy Barnett/Nicholas Sarwark [United Libertarian], Chris Hedges/Julia Butterfly Hill [Green], Charlie Bolden/Philippe Kirschen [Advancement], Barrett Brown/Eugene Puryear [Revolution]
Defeated '32: Paul Thissen/Tina Kotek [Progressive], Adam Kinzinger/Devin Nunes [Republican], Majora Carter/Cleo Fields ["Afrocentric" Progressive], Nicholas Sarwark/Joy Waymire [United Libertarian], Elijah Manley/Ben Chipman [Green], Charlie Bolden/Michael M. Watkins [Advancement], David Graeber/Amy Webb [Revolution]

2036 - Jewell Jones/Steve Simon [Farmer-Labor] (united Progressive/Green/Advancement factions)
Defeated: Luke Phillips/Katharine Hayhoe [Civil], George Brauchler/Adam Putnam [Republican], Ross Ulbricht/Thomasin Franken [United Libertarian], Amy Webb/Jessica Jin [Revolution]

...and with that, I'm finished with 2020 stuff (for now). Just wanted to get this thing out of my system. Non-2020 things will follow shortly.

 

[Techdread]

1970-1974: Edward Heath (Conservative majority)
1970: Harold Wilson (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
1974-1975: Edward Heath (Conservative minority with Liberal confidence and supply)
1974: Harold Wilson (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
1975-1978: Michael Foot (Labour majority)
1975: Edward Heath (Conservative), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
1978-: John Smith (Labour majority)

Oh Michael... And why the HMS Plymouth?! Damnation, Liam!

*Ahem* A fine list there, Liam, aside from the failure of my man and what. Certainly one way to have PM John Smith!

 

[Meadow]

1970-1974: Edward Heath (Conservative majority)

This is a lot of fun. Footite 70s economics in action in particular. Is there an inspiration/theme behind it, or is it simply an attempt to explore a Lib-Con deal in 74?

I think John Smith might be a bit of a stretch back then (IMO, in the situation you describe in terms of leadership vacuums, step forward Neil Kinnock) but I respect the balls.

 

[Geordie]

I thought Mowlam would painfully give it away, TBH, what with the shoutout to the wig.

Yeah, though the more general point that 'bald people don't do well in politics'.

All the POTUSes are bald too, as I'm sure people clocked.

Mowlam didn't for me, probably because I've been reading The Yorkshire Assembly again, so I felt the wig was just part and parcel of, who she was, and how she got things done.

Once Liam had explained it, I did clock that the POTUSes were all slapheads.

 

[Comisario]

This is a lot of fun. Footite 70s economics in action in particular. Is there an inspiration/theme behind it, or is it simply an attempt to explore a Lib-Con deal in 74?

It's really just a combination of ideas: younger John Smith in power, inverse Falklands to create a second Suez, '70s Foot, and so on. The biggest inspiration was @iainbhx's The British General Election 84. In a way, I tried to recreate the background scenario to that, but with Labour in the 1970s.

I think John Smith might be a bit of a stretch back then (IMO, in the situation you describe in terms of leadership vacuums, step forward Neil Kinnock) but I respect the balls.

Well, in my thinking (and it is hinted at), most of the big beasts of the Labour left and Labour right are tainted by Foot - either on the economic/European front or the Falklands front - and they're simply out of the running because, well, they managed a second Suez. Also, Smith at least had a Cabinet position and wasn't nearly as far to the left as Kinnock was in the '70s, so Smith seems the most plausible candidate of the younger crop. It might otherwise have been Hattersley, perhaps, but not Kinnock.

 

[KiwiEater]

Oh my sweet summer child.

*cracks knuckles*

Too Many Cooks Spoil The Broth (or: America collectively says "...What the hell is this?")

2016 - Donald Trump/Mike Pence [Republican]
Defeated 2016: Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine [Democrat], Gary Johnson/Will Weld [Libertarian], Jill Stein/Ajamu Baraka [Green], Even McMullin/Mindy Finn [independent/"Alternative" Republican], Darrel Castle/Scott Bradley [Constitution], Rocky De La Fuente/Michael Steinberg [Reform]
Defeated 2020: Bill De Baiso/Tammy Baldwin [Democrat], Jarrod Williams/Greg Orman ["Alternative" Democrat], Bill Weld/Austin Peterson [Establishment Libertarian], Adam Kokesh/Darryl Perry [Freedom Libertarian], Ben Manski/Ellen Brown [Green], Scott Copeland/Rick Jore [Constitution], Dan Ritter/Norah O'Donnell [independent], Mark Cuban/Zoe Lofgren [independent], Bill Gates/Lyndon Rive [independent/"Humanity"], Jesse Ventura/Jeff Boss [independent/"Truth"], Beau Willimon/Markus Kessler [independent/"Revolution"]

2024 - Nina Turner/Arik Bjorn [Progressive Democrat]
Defeated: Julian Castro/Tom Steyer [Establishment Democrat], Mike Pence/Michael Flynn [Eagle Republican], Elise Stefanik/Lindsey Graham [Establishment Republican], Fred Karger/Justin Amash [Civil Republican] Joy Waymire/Derrick Michael Reid [United Libertarian], Chris Hedges/Melissa Schlag [Green], Laurence Kotlikoff/Zoltan Istvan [independent/"Advancement"], Barrett Brown/Eugene Puryear [Revolution]

2028 - Brian Sandoval/Markwayne Mullin [Civil Republican]
Defeated '28: Nina Turner/Arik Bjorn[Progressive Democrat], Maggie Hassan/John Bel Edwards [Establishment Democrat], Angus King/Marissa Johnson ["Afrocentric" Progressive], Tom Cotton/Kris Kobach [Establishment], Michael Flynn/Curt Shilling [Eagle], Randy Barnett/Nicholas Sarwark [United Libertarian], Arn Menconi/Julia Butterfly Hill [Green], Charlie Bolden/Philippe Kirschen [Advancement]
Defeated '32: Paul Thissen/Tina Kotek [Progressive], Devin Nunes/Declan O'Scanlon [Establishment], Majora Carter/Cleo Fields ["Afrocentric" Progressive], Nicholas Sarwark/Joy Waymire [United Libertarian], Elijah Manley/Ben Chipman [Green], Charlie Bolden/Michael M. Watkins [Advancement]

2036 - Jewell Jones/Steve Simon [Farmer-Labor] (united Progressive/Green/Advancement factions)
Defeated: Luke Phillips/Katharine Hayhoe [Civil] George Brauchler/Adam Putnam [Establishment], Ross Ulbricht/Thomasin Franken [United Libertarian]

...and with that, I'm finished with 2020 stuff (for now). Just wanted to get this thing out of my system. Non-2020 things will follow shortly.

>Angus King is an Afrocentric Progressive
?????