Not sure how Georgie boy would be born in 1732 when the POD is in the early 1600s and butterflies abound. Certainly there will be Washingtons. Maybe even one named George in the mid-1700s, but he won't be our George.
King's Dominion: a Fractured North American Timeline
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Not sure how Georgie boy would be born in 1732 when the POD is in the early 1600s and butterflies abound. Certainly there will be Washingtons. Maybe even one named George in the mid-1700s, but he won't be our George.
I imagine that most Catholic immigrants ITTL will go to the Mid Atlantic or South, with New England remaining the overwhelmingly WASP society it was before the Potato Famine in our world. Instead of New England being plurality Catholic it'll be the Upper South that is.
I was gonna bring up the French, will a more divided Anglo-America lead to a surviving New France ITTL?
According to John Kennedy Toole (writer of Confederacy of Dunces and lifelong Louisianan), the accent that developed in the parts of New Orleans that received substantial Irish and Italian immigration is in fact remarkably like the northeastern accent (I think he specifically compares it to Brooklyn), so it could be that a south that attracts more immigrants has a much less noticeable accent.
My question is would the Anglo-Protestant play up fighting the "evil French papists" as much with a large Anglo-Catholic population.
It wouldn't surprise me. And that would make the war interesting.
Probably something along the lines of "Papists. Papists everywhere."
Did they consider them actual heretics at the time? Or where they just under the umbrella of antichrist?But like this:
I mean, I found it on google. The internet is dark and full of memes.
I love the concept of a fractured America but love even more there being a far earlier POD where the colonies are changed around so that by the time OTL's American Revolution takes place, North America is almost unrecognizable. Will be watching this with anticipation.
Sure can! I'll work on getting that made after next chapter, since it will go into some of the other New England colonies.
I'm aiming for at least weekly updates, but occasionally life gets busy and I don't have the time/energy, so I can't promise I'll always stick to that. On the other hand, when I have enough time/energy/inspiration, updates will come faster (as we'll hopefully see this weekend!). As for the third faction, they'll be a bit of a latecomer, but probably won't be a shocking pick.
Thanks! I won't comment on your predictions too much so I don't spoil anything, but it's fun to see all this speculation! Regarding slavery in Virginia though, as much as I want to butterfly away a lot of that brutality, I don't think it's practical to stop it from taking root at this point. That being said, the political/cultural/religious changes in TTL's Virginia will certainly interact with the institution of slavery in some interesting ways (I hope).
The irony of the Catholic/Baptist flip definitely wasn't lost on me - though originally I considered leaning into New England's Catholic population earlier. That said, in addition to the flip being funny, I think these religious roles will lead to more interesting futures for both regions.
My current position is to go lighter on the butterflies in Europe, so there's definitely a chance we'll se an alternate F&I War. Our boy George is almost definitely butterflied, but with the Washingtons being a longstanding planter family, there's definitely chances for another Washington to rear their head in future politics.
Neat! I'll have to steal some of this info for a culture-based chapter well down the road.
All I'll say is that, while France stands a much better chance than OTL, the volatile situations in North America and Europe leave their colonial fate far from settled.
Thanks! While I love revolutionary-era PODs, I wanted to see what I could do with a British North America that has no concept resembling the United Colonies/States. I hope you all will enjoy what this continent turns into!
Oh for sure! VA slavery was also awful. I was more thinking of whether the more distinctly Caribbean sort of chattel slavery that seeds South Carolina will take root. The import slaves, work them till they die, import more slaves model contra the Tidewater slave-breeding model that develops by the mid-18th Century.
Honestly, if anything, I think New France and France's other colonies in the New World might be fare worse because of a very vehemently anti-Catholic New England wanting to remove Catholic presence at all costs, especially if the English capture Quebec in 1628 much like OTL.
I think there will definitely be a series of "French and Indian Wars" through the early-18th Century just like OTL corresponding with European conflicts. I agree with your thinking that ITTL the conflicts will be even more ferocious than they already were OTL if the New Englanders feel like there's also an internal English Catholic threat to the south.
It makes sense that there will be fewer butterflies in Europe despite massive ones in America. It doesn't take many changes this early to totally remake the colonial history of the continent, but those changes would mostly not impact the geopolitical trends and themes in Europe. At least not for a while.
Ah, gotcha! The economic incentive is certainly there for brutal Caribbean-style slavery, buuuut it remains to be seen how much violence white Carolinians (or whatever polity they'll fall under ITTL) will be able to stomach in TTL's society, or if slave revolts will be more successful. I have the broad strokes of TTL's slavery politics down, but I'll definitely need to explore it in more detail once that region develops.
In that case I think something similar to OTL's ethnic cleansing of the Acadians but on a much larger scale is unfortunately possible ITTL.
I was just going to comment the anti-Catholic sentiment can't really get worse than OTL and bring up the Acadians.
What is possible to carry out may get much more though.
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