Images of The Death of Russia

Alpha-King98760

Alpha-King98760

The late 1980's-early 1990's Soviet Pop song “Goodbye Forever by Soviet Pop band Freestyle. Like “Unfortunate Son” during the American experience in Vietnam and “Gruppa Krovi” during the Soviet-Afghan War of the 80's, Freestyle’s Goodbye Forever became the song most synonymous with the Second Russian Civil War even outside of Eastern Europe/Russia.​

Though in their heyday Freestyle wasn’t that well known outside of the former Soviet Union, since the start of the 2000's knowledge of the group has skyrocketed and their popularity outside Russia has grown with the band getting back together in 2015 to do a world tour entitled “We Are Back Now!” with said tour ending off in Novgorod, Russia.

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Members of Freestyle in 2016.​
 
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Mr_ Bondoc

Mr_ Bondoc

While this may seem completely unrelated, we need to remember that Gore's policies regarding Russia are often attributed to his environmentalism on one hand, but also based on his sex scandals. Just consider that the 2007/2008 political dialogue outside of Air America and MSNBC was almost completely based round the accusations of Molly Haggerty of Portland, Oregon, and the infamous "stained pants":

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Cover box for the (in)famous Japanese Role-Playing Game(JRPG) Final Fantasy VII, the seventh entry in the popular Final Fantasy series. The game centers follows Cloud Strife, a mercenary who joins an eco-terrorist organization to stop a world-controlling megacorporation from using the planet's life essence as an energy source. Events send Cloud and his allies in pursuit of the true antagionist: Sephiroth, a superhuman who seeks to wound the planet and absorb its' life essence to be reborn as a god.

While Final Fantasy VI was already dark, with the mass world devastation caused by main villain Kefka seen by many to be reminiscent of the devastation caused by 4/10, FFVII would be the game that showed that the events of 4/10 broke Square Enix, resulting in an even more apocalyptic ending that ended with the extinction of humanity itself in contrast to the more bittersweet ending of VI. While FFVII was always meant to deal with tragic themes with "Loss" being a central theme of the game as a result of the impact of the death of Sakaguchi's own mother years before, originally that theme would have limited itself to the death of the character of Aeris(now accurately translated as Aerith) Gainsborough at the end of Disk 1 along with a few minor characters earlier on in the story.

The trauma caused by 4/10 however would change this and make the game take a even more tragic direction. Aeris' death at the City of the Ancients(now accurately translated as the Forgotten Capital) would only be the start of the tragedy. A even more infamous sequence in the game would be Midgar air raid towards the end of Disc 2 where anyone you did not pick for your main party would be killed off in the ensuing chaos. This would culimate in the surviving party, after defeating mad scientist Hojo, limping to the Northern Crater to fight JENOVA-SYNTHISIS and Sephiroth. Sephiroth's defeat and Holy's activation however, does not stop Meterorfall. At that moment the planet itself intervenes-perhaps spurred on by Aeris' spirit-and calls on the Lifestream, or the planet's life essence, to block meteror....this effort saves the planet....but kills off humanity. The last shot of the game is Midgar centuries later finally reclaimed by nature, but devoid of all life. A contrast with FFVI where Kefka's power-mad rampage destroys most of the world in his bit to secure godhood, but humanity moves on and rebuilds, yet a contrast seen as much more tragic.

Final Fantasy VII would be seen as one of the clearest instances of 4/10's impact on popular culture shifting the tone of popular culture to extremely tragic and grimdark narratives, so much so that the initial backlash meant that FFVIII had to be written with a happy ending in mind. While FFVII is now considered one of the best games of all time for its' tragic tone, revelations in the first installment of the FFVII remake trilogy, that the planet's interests and the party's interests, and what constitutes "saving the planet" may not align with the party choosing to defy destiny and fight the manifestation of the Planet's will--albeit in a way that potentially leaves Sephiroth in a stronger position to enact plans that are yet to be revealed, has been widely discussed among the Final Fantasy fandom. There are theories that Square is setting up the remake to have a much more happier ending where Shinra and Sephiroth are both defeated in a way that allows humanity to exist peacefully with the planet, through whether this entails creating the trilogy with the original plan as to who lives or dies or pushing forward a unambiguously happy ending where the entire party*-including Aerith-lives has been a huge topic of debate among players.

*-This theory has far less backlash among westerners(Japan was always in favor of her living) TTL than OTL because of how traumatic the 90s were leading to eventual desire by the late 2000s and 2010s for more optimistic and outright escapist media. The "Terrier timeline is the Lifestream theory" still exists, but it is used to argue by the "Square will use the original plan" theorists as to how "Zack and Aerith's spirits will try to convince the planet from within the Lifestream to spare humanity" rather than be deliberately pushed as some sort of Deus Ex Machina to ensure canon "stays on track" since I feel only a really smally minority would want canon to stay on track.
 
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Mr_ Bondoc

Mr_ Bondoc

Who here remember cancelling all of their New Year's Eve plans starting c. July 1999, after the many movies that came out that summer, that flagged how anything with a microchip or anything made after 1985, would mysteriously malfunction, including cars and planes. Anyone who was in a college dorm into 2010 at the very least had one of the following posters, or sat through these films on basic cable at c. 3:00 AM:

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Who here remember cancelling all of their New Year's Eve plans starting c. July 1999, after the many movies that came out that summer, that flagged how anything with a microchip or anything made after 1985, would mysteriously malfunction, including cars and planes. Anyone who was in a college dorm into 2010 at the very least had one of the following posters, or sat through these films on basic cable at c. 3:00 AM:

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In what way is this even remotely relevant to the thread as titled?
 
Mr_ Bondoc

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CalBear said:
In what way is this even remotely relevant to the thread as titled?
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The films, Countdown to Chaos, Medusa's Child to Y2K all were made less than 4 years after the collapse of the Russian state, and somehow all predict that some "loose Russian nukes" would hit the United States within seconds of Y2K taking place. Would any of these films been taken seriously in a TL wherein thousands of Americans hadn't died in a nuclear strike?
 
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Mr_ Bondoc said:
The films, Countdown to Chaos, Medusa's Child to Y2K all were made less than 4 years after the collapse of the Russian state, and somehow all predict that some "loose Russian nukes" would hit the United States within seconds of Y2K taking place. Would any of these films been taken seriously in a TL wherein thousands of Americans hadn't died in a nuclear strike?
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That sort of question really should be asked in the main thread though, not the in-universe pictures thread?
 
Mr_ Bondoc

Mr_ Bondoc

Considering the symbolism brought up by pop culture franchises. I am surprised that no one mentioned anyone mentioned the live-action film Frozen (2019), which utilized many of the sites mentioned in this historical thread:

 
Mr_ Bondoc

Mr_ Bondoc

One of the weirder things about the post-Russia world, is how is the surprising embrace of Minecraft. Consider the 2024 Minecraft film set to be launched this summer:

 
Jett-Power

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Nizhny Novgorod Kremlin's eternal flame, rebuilt to remember all the Russians who died in World War 2 and the Second Russian Civil War.
 
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Post 4/10 United States presidential elections.

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1996 United States presidential election
Blue-Democrat-Bill Clinton/Al Gore
Red-Republican-John McCain/Carroll Campbell

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2000 United States presidential election

Blue-Democrat-Al Gore/Joe Liberman
Red-Republican-George W. Bush/Dick Cheney

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2004 United States presidential election

Blue-Democrat-Al Gore/Joe Liberman
Red-Republican-Steve Forbes/George Pataki

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2008 United States presidential election

Blue-Democrat-Joe Liberman/Dick Gephardt
Red-Republican-Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan


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2012 United States presidential election

Blue-Democrat-Joe Biden/Jack Reed
Red-Republican-Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan

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2016 United States presidential election

Blue-Democrat- Hillary Clinton/Cory Booker
Red-Republican-Jeb Bush/Newt Gingrich

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2020 United States presidential election

Blue-Democrat- Hillary Clinton/Cory Booker
Red-Republican-Marco Rubio/Tim Pawlenty
 

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Jett-Power said:
Post 4/10 United States presidential elections.


1996 United States presidential election
Blue-Democrat-Bill Clinton/Al Gore
Red-Republican-John McCain/Carroll Campbell


2000 United States presidential election

Blue-Democrat-Al Gore/Joe Liberman
Red-Republican-George W. Bush/Dick Cheney


2004 United States presidential election

Blue-Democrat-Al Gore/Joe Liberman
Red-Republican-Steve Forbes/George Pataki


2008 United States presidential election

Blue-Democrat-Joe Liberman/Dick Gephardt
Red-Republican-Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan



2012 United States presidential election

Blue-Democrat-Joe Biden/Jack Reed
Red-Republican-Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan


2016 United States presidential election

Blue-Democrat- Hillary Clinton/Cory Booker
Red-Republican-Jeb Bush/Newt Gingrich


2020 United States presidential election

Blue-Democrat- Hillary Clinton/Cory Booker
Red-Republican-Marco Rubio/Tim Pawlenty
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Please note that there is a THREE IMAGE, per thread, per DAY posting limit.



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Jett-Power

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Infoboxes of the early phase of the Second Russian Civil War (it was mentioned that the war started in 1993).

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