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  1. Basileus_Komnenos Imperator Romanorum Βασιλεύς των Ρωμαιων Αὔγουστος

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    This was a continuous problem for the Romans. You'd think that they would have learned with the continued dynastic success of the Heraclians expanding the Empire beyond Justinian's borders. This problem was what doomed them after Manizikert with the various pretenders inviting the Turks into Anatolia to help them take the throne. This only caused the loss of Anatolia. Once the dynastic stability of the Komnenoi in the 11th and 12th centuries was lost, the state floundered under incompetent leadership with shaky legitimacy. If Justinian succeeds the Romans will for the first time have a dynasty last for five generations. Perhaps he can transition the state to gradually recognize the blood of Heraclius as the only true legitimate royal line for the their throne. With Heraclius's achievements' his dynasty should be seen as a second Constantinian dynasty.
     
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  2. Goldensilver81 Well-Known Member

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    I swear yo god your physicic
     
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  3. Goldensilver81 Well-Known Member

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    Even thougth i liked this part of my timeline of hope I beaten your physic power with the bebers

    @Basileus_Komnenos
     
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  4. Basileus_Komnenos Imperator Romanorum Βασιλεύς των Ρωμαιων Αὔγουστος

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    Though I don't understand how the Berbers would really overrun the Romans here. The Romans have largely recovered now after the Justinian plague and the Romano-Persian war. With Mesopotamia, they now have better access to the Silk Road Trade and all its wealth. Carthage was a very well defended city making taking it hard. With Rome still controlling Algeria, and other Coastal Enclaves, they should easily be able to re-supply the Carthaginians by sea. Any Berber force besieging the city should be crushed by the Roman forces landing at the port. Unless this is a matter of treachery with the Roman garrison being bribed, I don't see this as likely.
     
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  5. Goldensilver81 Well-Known Member

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    Well for now the berbers have great leadership
    Carthage was taken .by the berbers do to the duke spoleto refushing
    To submit to the 2 , this cuased naval conflict between the province of italy and the empire even so the empire manganged to recapure the city until civil conflict goofed up

    So the 2 userpers (695-703) plus the berbers being united , and having excellent leadership allowed them to push to leptis magna

    Well it's a matter of if justinian can fix the mess of the 2 other emperors
     
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  6. Basileus_Komnenos Imperator Romanorum Βασιλεύς των Ρωμαιων Αὔγουστος

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    Well within Byzantine history here, they wouldn't be counted as Emperor's here, but as unworthy usurpers.

    "The only true Emperor is Justinian II with the other two being dangerous usurpers who screwed the Empire in a way that only a Heraclian could fix the problem. He after all lived up to his namesake after all."
    -----Some pro-Heraclian historian during the reign of Justinian II's son or grandson (Think of how Constantine VII Makedon downplayed the roles of Romanos Lekabanos and Michael III and whitewashed the image of Basil I who was rewritten to have some Armenian noble origins despite being a peasant).
     
  7. EmperorOfTheNorthSea Cnut? You haven't seen a REAL North Sea Empire

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    Hmm so a cult of personality built around the Heraclian bloodline...

    While that's good for stopping usurpation and adding a degree of stability it could run into a plenty of problems. Even usurpation within the Dynasty or puppet child emperors.
     
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    true well not really but eh , but lets see Justinian will either save or doom it
     
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  9. Basileus_Komnenos Imperator Romanorum Βασιλεύς των Ρωμαιων Αὔγουστος

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    Well not really. I mean the idea that hereditary primogeniture based succession being the norm like in Western Europe. This was how the Franks got it. The French King had his son named Co-King and thus all legal responsibilities and powers transferred to him when the senior ruler died. This worked since Hugh Capet, and the last King to need this was Phillip II Augustus, arguably France's most effective monarch since Charlemagne. Rome's dynasties were pretty short lived with the longest being the Palaiologoi during a time of major crisis. Right now its the Heraclians. If Justinian II succeeds he can create his own peerages and noble titles for his other family members, creating cadet branches. A cult of personality would likely be for the bloodline to give it dynastic weight making it natural for the heir of Heraclius to succeed. The Rurukids basically ruled Russia for 21 generations which was around 700 years. The Macedonians nearly passed 200 years, the Capetians of France ruled for over 900 years as well (counting their cadet houses like the Captetian House of Valois or Bourbon). So its certainly doable that Rome evolves to have a set of stable dynastic succession. Had Justinian sired a son this would have been the case.
     
  10. Threadmarks: Justinians trails

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    As Justinian, finally left for Mesopotamia Before he did he sent Justinian sent some 5 000 troops to Hispania, to aid the Byzantine force , Who had been left to themselves ever since 695.

    Justinian now marched to the east.

    In Northeastern Arabia a new leader had united much of the northern Arabs in to a massive confederation , His confederation only grew once many more tribes expelled by the Yemen king joined him.

    With an army of now 40 000 the set out he divided his force in 2. One would go for the ghassanids ,and the other to Mesopotemia .

    The ghassanids where overwhelmed and force on the retreat . While the other 20 000 attacked Mesopotamia and took a lot of Plunder and hired 5000 mercenaries

    With the ghassanid army reduced to only a few thousands, they joined the Roman army

    Both armies united , Justinian had 55 000 forces from Egypt, Anatolia, Syria the Levant and Mesopotamia and what remained of the Ghassanid army had 5000 , Having in total some 60 000 troops.

    The arabs and byzantines met near Babylon.

    Justinian challenged the Arab leader to a duel, he instead sent his brother after some minutes , The sword of Heraclius had claimed another life in a duel.

    Tomorrow they would figth since the Arab leader asked for a day of prayer.

    Still he noticed that the arab leader was very confident, do to this Justinian told Heraclius to take the heavy and ghassanid light cavalry, and leave the battlefield after some explaining Heraclius understood.




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    Seeing how the byzantine force was smaller about 50 000

    The Arab leader seeing this sent his infantry and pushed the Byzantines back , and the a group of cavalry charged , Justinian made a crescent retreating it center until it reached the river.

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    The Arab leader seeing how victory was close sends his cavalry against the flanks to encircle the Byzantines

    This was Heraclius and the ghassanid king waited for, they charged to the enemy ,Now the Arab forces where surrounded.

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    And the massacre began, cohesion broke as the Arabs began to fight for their lives. The battle continued for about 6 hours , Justinian was injured but persisted, after hours.

    100 out of the 45 000 survived the slaughter here would affect future migrations.

    The victory against the Arabs was total, but bad news reached Justinian, news from Hispania.


    Do to Justinian reinforcements, the byzantine won against the visigothic king ,the byzantine plan was to push back and join the successful Basque who were laying siege to Reccopolis

    Now the romans pushed the Visigoths who hid in the mountains of southern Hispania here, The Byzantine commander was over confident and ignored many warnings.


    Example, the a fortified palisade , which the commander assumed was to prevent entrance, rather that its true purpose, to deny escape.


    Visigothic warriors where spotted in the heights surrounding them.

    The byzantine commander, spoke with this generals, one general said to retreat, since it was obvious this was a trap , The byzantine commander , got enraged that the others wanted to retreat now , that they were so close to victory.

    This arguing continued as the Visigoths got more prepared.


    Dawn

    As the roman troops slept, thousands of Visigoths began to yell war cries, now the romans tried hastily grabbed their armor and weapons, they were not quick enough.

    Before they could react , they were attacked.and many including the byzantine comander was killed. seeing this some fougth but many Others fled, as they did so more Visigoths came down to attack.

    This flight, those who made where trapped by the palisade. The byzantine army was slaughtered; this turned the tide of the war ,And pushed the romans all the only holding a small part of the coast

    With the romans practically almost kicked out of Hispania. The Visigoths turned their attention to the Basque. When he Received the news, Justinian said It was better for him to die in Hispania.

    For he would have tortured him for his failure.

    Still Justinian did not have time for this as he had to deal with the situation in the north against the Slavs.
     
  11. Goldensilver81 Well-Known Member

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    705 AD map

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  12. Basileus_Komnenos Imperator Romanorum Βασιλεύς των Ρωμαιων Αὔγουστος

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    This story is getting with each update. The quality has greatly improved with each successive update.

    The Berbers here seem to be imitating the Almoravids and seem poised to push into Hispania. Though I can imagine Justinian liquidating much of Rome’s officer corps and civil administration in the West. I mean in otl the Roman cities put up more resistance to the Islamic Caliphate than this. This is probably incompetence on the scale of the Late Empire when the Roman governor of Africa invited the Vandals in allowing them to establish their Kingdom and take over the Roman fleet.


    This sounds similar to a real life battle. Is this from an actual historical battle you took inspiration from? Either way it’s well done, and shows the complacency and incompetence of the officer corps of the West.

    I swear this sword is on its way to become one of the Holy relics of the Empire and perhaps Christendom itself. An example of a national relic is the Italians Iron Crown of Lombardy, the Hungarian Crown is St. Stephen which is what all Hungarian Kings MUST be crowned by. There’s St. Edward’s Chair for the English upon which all Kings are Corninated. The French had Charlemagne’s regalia and the Austrians have the Imperial regalia of the HRE.

    I hope Justinian does a thorough restructuring of the civil service, provincial, government, and army to prevent something from happening again.

    Can you do a chapter on what life is in Frankish controlled Gaul, Visigothic Hispania, and Berber controlled Carthage? Does the Roman identity still exist in Northern Gaul? How do the Gallo Romans fell about the Frankish overlords and the Romans to the South.

    How are the Lombards still a thing here. After Justinian destroyed the Vandal Kingdom they disappeared from the history books as a political entity or people. There also were never enough Lombards for them to displace the Romans of Italy. In otl they were Romanizing as contact with the native Romans increased. Heraclius beating them and the Decades of peace should have saw them rapidly Romanize with the Lombard identity disappearing like it did for the Vandals. Italy’s reconstruction and recovery should have expedited the restoration of the Roman culture within Italy and the Romanization of the Lombards. With the restoration of the aqueducts and cities, a population boom is to be expected as people who moved to the outskirts of cities, move back into the cities.
     
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    This sounds similar to a real life battle. Is this from an actual historical battle you took inspiration from? Either way it’s well done, and shows the complacency and incompetence of the officer corps of the West.[/QUOTE]

    Yeah took insipiration from pliska in 811


    I swear this sword is on its way to become one of the Holy relics of the Empire and perhaps Christendom itself. An example of a national relic is the Italians Iron Crown of Lombardy, the Hungarian Crown is St. Stephen which is what all Hungarian Kings MUST be crowned by. There’s St. Edward’s Chair for the English upon which all Kings are Corninated. The French had Charlemagne’s regalia and the Austrians have the Imperial regalia of the HRE.[/QUOTE]

    Might be


    I hope Justinian does a thorough restructuring of the civil service, provincial, government, and army to prevent something from happening again.[/QUOTE]

    That's 2 of us

    Can you do a chapter on what life is in Frankish controlled Gaul, Visigothic Hispania, and Berber controlled Carthage? Does the Roman identity still exist in Northern Gaul? How do the Gallo Romans fell about the Frankish overlords and the Romans to the South.[/QUOTE]

    Will do

    How are the Lombards still a thing here. After Justinian destroyed the Vandal Kingdom they disappeared from the history books as a political entity or people. There also were never enough Lombards for them to displace the Romans of Italy. In otl they were Romanizing as contact with the native Romans increased. Heraclius beating them and the Decades of peace should have saw them rapidly Romanize with the Lombard identity disappearing like it did for the Vandals. Italy’s reconstruction and recovery should have expedited the restoration of the Roman culture within Italy and the Romanization of the Lombards. With the restoration of the aqueducts and cities, a population boom is to be expected as people who moved to the outskirts of cities, move back into the cities.[/QUOTE]
    You see after nearly 50 years these Lombards like I mentioned escaped toward Slavic territory they are a now more Slavic o they are a wierd combination of a Slavic and Germanic tribe.
    And we'll
    The Invaders took everything north of the PO river but only the country side .

    The walls of Pavia and other cities rival that of Antioch so there not punching trougth that .

    As for the Lombard who stayed yes 50 years of peace has made them Rome romanizded and Roman indentety is coming back they are seeing themselves as western Romans
     
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  14. Basileus_Komnenos Imperator Romanorum Βασιλεύς των Ρωμαιων Αὔγουστος

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    Well at least with Africa and Spain the Romans can go back to their roots.

    Carthago Delenda Est intensifies....
    Visigothia Delenda Est intenisfies.....
    I mean the Visigoths were the ones to first sack Rome for the first time since the Gauls 800 years prior. This insult needs to be avenged from the Roman perspective. The Romans destroyed the accursed Vandals, and they should do so with their old enemy the Visigoths. This would be a good PR move for the Heraclians to portray themselves as avenging Rome's honor. Maybe they can play this up. Perhaps the Emperor holds triumphs in both Rome and Constantinople after he destroys the Visigoths. He can perhaps display the loot in an Imperial Triumph and have it immortalized in a new Roman Triumphal Arch. Julius Caesar basically did the same thing with the Gauls as he portrayed himself as Rome's avenger, making sure that they never again threatened Rome again, and the sacking of Rome was avenged.
     
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  15. Threadmarks: Justinian trails part 2

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    the peace , was used by the berbers to subdue other Berbers.

    To not provoque the Berbers
    Prince Aksel was “adopted” by the Visigothic king as a gesture of good will.

    Most Berbers agreed to this, except one Tariq, son of the Late Badis , he disliked how Dhyia favored her elder Grandson , while Prince Askel was resentful of this.

    And do to this , and his father being busy ,the young prince , went to Tariq to spent Time , still he feared that one day these 2 grandsons of King Askel ,would tear apart the Berbers in a massive civil war.


    Early 706
    Justinian spent his time, in Mesopotamia.

    He saw his mother ,Anastasia after 11 years ,the whole family moved back to Constantinople except Heraclius who stayed to watch over His province .

    Once in the capital , she met justinians 1 year old son Tiberius

    Moesia late 706.

    Justinian met with Tervel again as he had just defeated the Slavic incursion to this territory.

    With both south and north secured, the emperor said fair wail to Tervel and moved to Italy.

    707
    Justinian marches towards Italy .

    The emperor found many sings of a trap in the alps ,so he took the long way around . he was not going to fall for an ambush.

    Do to this both armies met Bear Pavia.

    Justinian and the duke of Spoleto . attacked the Lombards while they were entering the open plains near Pavia.

    He used the same trick , used against the Arabs and the Lombards fell for it.

    Justinian was able to destroy their entire force but a column that escaped through the Alps.

    Still lombards where slaughtered.
    But Justinian was not going to stop .

    By 708 all the invading lombards are kicked out.

    Still Justinian was not over .

    Justinian moved towards the seat of the neo Lombard kingdom, laid siege to the city , took it and masacred the survivors of the battle , and all the royals where killed .

    The survivors where scatered and disappeared.

    At the same time, the Romans where finally kicked out of Hispania.

    Justinian was furious , but he would answer this later .

    After the victories, Justinian implemented one of His grandfather Constans II ideas , the themes.

    Justinian created , The themes of west Moesia, Dacia, and east Moesia.

    In Mesopotamia, he created theme of Babylon, and theme of Ctesiphon

    In Africa the theme of Tripolitania and Cyrenaica.

    710
    The Berber –Roman truce lasted about 6 years, and negotiations resumed in reality at least for Justinian this was a rhouse as he only wated time.

    Ever since 709 Justinian had been preparing his navy and army .

    To take back Carthage and hispania .
     
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  16. Threadmarks: The visigothic-basque war

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    the situation in Hispania had changed over 3 years ago

    In 695 ,war broke out do to the berber capture of Carthage, when the Visigoths attacked ,the basque attacked as well.

    Do to the Romans being priority . The visigoths took a defensive stratagy against the basque .

    From 695 to 703 , do to the roman abadonment of their forces in hispania ,the visigoths where able to push the romans back , as they did the basque won many minor engagements and took , Everything north of the Duero river

    In 705 after the victory and masacre of the byzantine forces , King Wittiza, moved against the Basques , lifting the siege of Reccopolis .

    soon the visigoths pushed the basque back , We have limited knowlege on the insuing battle , but we now it was won by the Visigoths. The basques wanted to trap king Wittiza in the mountains.

    The king ignored this ambush and defeated a basque army.

    in 707 , more good news arrived as the Romans where finally kicked out of Hispania .

    Still to pay for the war , king Wittiza taxed the south heavily. The south was rich do to the 20 years Roman rule , so naturally they where taxed the most .

    This Made the people resent visigothic rule even more , as not only the Romans , who where really popular thrown out , their "liberators" plunder the rich cities and stole their wealth .

    This made the people there angry . But the tax increase was the last straw .

    a rebellion occurred in corboda .


    708
    the basques took this golden change and moved an army and went directly against the capital Toledo. The siege dragged on , but failed . as the rebelion in Cordoba was crushed.

    The basque had lost their last gamble.

    Late 709
    The basque king died , his son asked for peace. king Wittiza was eager to agree , as his kingdom was on the verge of exhaustion .

    Finally the long Basque- visgothic war of 695 – 709 ended .

    All territories prior to the wars outbreak of war , where returned to the visigoths , allong with all the prisoners of war . The basque agree to pay a war emdedity .

    The long war left both states weak , but at least the visigoths regained the entire south . But witht basque the situation returned to the statos quo ante bellum.

    Neither side , aside from the visigoths and the south . Gained new lands or riches , the war was just devestating .

    King Wittiza , now began preparations to rebuild his torn up kingdom , and did some reforms in 710 .

    But it was not to be he died in 711. , Plunging the already exhausted state , Into a massive civil war between. The 2 pretenders Aquila and Roderic.

    The south didn’t join no side ,as they were resentful, that there wealtthy province had become the wallet for the visigoths and planned to rebelled again.

    But news reached from the souther coast .

    They saw something comming from the south , ships , many ships .
     
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    lets see i think your gonna really like the 8th century
     
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  18. Threadmarks: Battle of cordoba

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    Mediterranean Sea.

    To the surprise of the people , they where not romam ships .

    Inside the main transport ship
    Many men where uncomfortable , other sea sick , as these men where dessert dwelers not used to the movement of boats
    They knew why there where here , to raid sotuher hispania .

    But questioned why?

    Askel ignored their questions and looked north, towards the direction of Hispania.

    Some men feared they migth end up like the Romans .

    Unknown the Berbers except some few, the Visigoths only won against the romans due to the romans abandoning their forces and later roman being to overconfident.

    And won against he Basques since they gambled a lot for a quick victory

    they were united , they also devived their forces so that if one army got killed this would not hamper the entire kingdom.

    These advantages by 711 where gone.

    This made the Visigoths overconfident and this is what Askel wanted, he and Tariq knew that they were here for more that a mere raid.

    Once they arrived they ignore the town's and marched north .

    The Berbers where surprised didn’t the come here to raid?
    Once they arrived in some town's .

    The berbers when ready to loot.

    But the prince was known telling them to buy goods and no loot.

    Even though this made his troops doubt him .

    This paid off as every quickly town after town opened its gates to the
    7 000 Berbers.

    Roderic who was in norther Hispania, when he hears the news

    To his surprise he expected the romans to land in his shores not the Berbers.


    Many including the factions against him united and their army numbered 18 000.

    They marched south near Cordoba .

    Against then was the 7000 elite Berber units and the 2000 able fighting men of southern baetica that joined him.

    Tariq organized himself with he and the prince in the center with heavy infantry.

    With light and heavy cavalry all their forces where on a hill .

    Roderic cavalry moved to harras and make the berbers abandon their favorable position.

    It was not efective, as the berbers where elite troops and didn't break formation .

    Seeing this roderic charged .

    Then the whole army charged

    When roderic clashed.

    Tariq , then noticed, that the wings didnt

    Askel said :

    Tariq you are a great general but not a good politician


    The Visigoths where united against the romans and Basques , with one gone , and the other defeated and the King dead plunged them in to unrest and petty fighting


    He smiled and said all it took was a Little gold and whatever loyalty they had left banished

    Tariq , his studies about politics has paid of , the 16 year old had killed the army before figthing it .

    Roderic noticed the betrayal, and cursed the traitors

    You may give the order general
    Said Askel

    Tariq followed suit, the Berber cavalry came and surrounded the Visigoths

    The massacre began thousands of visigoths where slain amog them roderic and many nobles .

    With the head of the Visigoths cut off, and his promises of restoring a just rule like the romans.

    Askel speed of advance was quick, Cordoba opened its gates, and by December Toledo fell

    Askel then ordered to loot royal treasury 1/6 would go to the towns and cities of the south , 1/6 for his troops , 1/6 to the north , 1/6 he sent back to the Berber royal family.

    The rest stayed where it was

    To The surprise to everyone was in Christmas Askel with “the approval” of the nobles

    Was crowned King of Hispania.

    And proclaimed that all Hispania would be like the south during roman rule.
     
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  19. Threadmarks: 712-717

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    After the death of his mother , Justinian had received news of the berber captured of Toledo , this angered him so much he collapsed .

    In reality Justinian II, died.

    The stress of the last 9 years , his mother death and the berber capture of Toledo , had made him burst a blood vessel killing him .

    His son Tiberius was barely 7, lucky to him and the empire Justinian uncle Heraclius was still alive.

    He outlived him all , his father Constans II who died 40 years ago , his brother Constantine IV 30 years ago, his brother Tiberius died in 17 years ago 695 , her died just last year and now , Justinian died.

    For the 60 year old, it would be a challenge.

    His first action was to cancel the attack on Carthage and hispania.

    While not being a bad general, he knew that Justinian could have pulled this of , but not him .

    but still prepared the army and Navy for a possible Berber attack just in case.

    As negotiation continued .

    A man came to give him the sword of Emperor Heraclius .
    His response : put that back where it belongs , in the hands of a Basileus .

    Poiting to emperor Heraclius armour

    Heraclius become regent but denied the title of emperor and thus doesn’t become Heraclius II.


    Justinian had killed the empires threats, Heraclius being the great ruler of Mesopotamia, he wonder if It was a test, the hardships of such a complicated province.

    Had made him competent enough to deal with the empire .


    713
    As Heraclius is consolidating his position.

    King Askel was also busy, consolidating his position he fought Aquila’s forces, little is known about this battle only that Aquila was slain.

    By late 713 All of Visiogthic Hispania was his, now he planned to move against the Basque.

    But he was called back .

    Once he arrived to Carthage .

    He saw the city both Roman and berber a like living in it , nothing had really changed, except for the royal family spending more time there .

    Once he arrived to the designated location .

    His brother greeted him “well”
    Balbering about how he was supposed to raid the province , and if not proclaim.

    To his surprise, his grandmother dhyia didn't chastise him rather congratulated him as she layed in her bed
    It was clear that the 70 year old was dying .
    Still she brought up the question of how the was king and how that would affect relationship with Altava .

    Askel said that he would be independent . By would pay homage and recognize the king of altava , his father and later his brother as superior

    And would give a payment of the king.

    As long as he had freedom to run his kingdom .

    It was agreed by all even his brother even though it took some convincing .

    That what Askel proposed would be the way on how things worked from now on.

    Soon after this Dhyia died , and Askel returned to Hispania where he met with Tariq .

    Tariq
    Asked him why where so many men chopping of trees .

    Answering to Tariq the king said .

    These where the orders of my father gather wood, and ship it to him.

    "For his little project
    "

    After that and some preperations he declared war on the Basque.

    The basque where fierce warriors there state had not recovered form the long war .
    But still they where breave and clever enough to kill the berber Invaders for cometing a mistake .

    Do to this Askel and Tariq where very carefull.

    Especially in mountian crosses.

    For the next year's the berbers would push them back north in a long camping .

    By 715 News about the Byzantines reached the king .

    A civil war broke out.

    After 3 years Heraclius died , the stress and old age had most likely killed him .

    And now with no Heraclians left and with Tiberuis being 10.

    People fougth on who would be the next regant.

    The main candidates bieng Bardanes and Anastasios

    After a year civil war , both of their supporters met near Asia minor
    Where Anastasios army killed
    Bardanes.

    By late 716 anastasios won and became de facto ruler .

    The agreement was that Anastasios
    Would step down once Tiberuis reached maturity.

    By this point in early 717 after 4 years The Basque where finally conquered, Askel and Tariq, admired their bravery and gave them very liniment treatment

    Now, But king askel was not over, he still wanted another thing,Septimenia.

    But For now he would consolidate what he had gained.
     
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    Kingdom of Hispania part of the great altavan empire .
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