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  1. Whiteshore

    Competition to Christianity in a World Without Islam

    In a world without Islam (let's just say Muhammad dies a sickly infant or something along those lines), an assumption is that Christianity is a religion which does better without the Islamic Conquests with how the Middle East and North Africa were very much centers of Christianity prior to the...
  2. No Islam Byzantine dominate Middle East

    The POD is that Islam is not founded. Byzantine Empire recovers from the Byzantine–Sasanian War of 602–628. The Heraclian dynasty consolidates the empire. The Army is rebuilt to the strength it had under Justinian. Italy is soon reconquered. Yet the Sasanian Empire is still in the damage from...
  3. Heirs of Heraclius TL Language Help

    Hello in my timeline, I have a Africano-Romance empire based in Carthage as we can see it massive despite that by this point it has lost crete I do want to ask does any one have a good source on how this african romance would sound like sardinian also what impacts it would have on Spanish as the...
  4. No Islam - What about Slavery?

    Big Question regarding a long period affected by a swarm of butterflies. But it's something I've pondered about before. The first type of slavery in the Islamic world that comes to popular imagination would be that of harems/concubines full of women from many places. Whether something like this...
  5. Blue Heaven Encompassing Earth: A Late Antiquity Timeline

    With thanks to @Practical Lobster and Chris Stewart of the History of China podcast and Chehrazad and Zam from Sufficientvelocity.com. Inelid Qaghanate § Background In the year 628, Khusro II was overthrown and killed by various factions of the Eranian nobility, including his son Sheroe...
  6. PC: No Islam, a Christian Arab Empire, and a Neo-Göktürk Persia?

    Here is a scenario I have been thinking about for a while. How plausible is it? (If you are also on sufficientvelocity.com, you may have seen an earlier version of this scenario.) Arab Empire - No Islam. Maybe Muhammad didn’t exist, or maybe he stayed in Ethiopia, or maybe he was just less...
  7. Al-Za’im

    No Islam: Religious development in Arabia

    The proximity of Arabia to the Byzantines, Sassanids and Horn of Africa meant the region had been a nexus for trade and commerce, along with becoming a melting point of various intellectual and religious traditions. Evidence suggests that Polytheistic traditions where practised by the majority...
  8. No islam Sasanians fall to Seljuk Jews?

    can Seljuks destroy Sasanian Empire ? how would this affect history can Seljuks destroy Sasanian Empire ? third temple? please answer the questions and like and the share the post
  9. No Islam Jewish Turks?

    can Khazar proselytizism convert Turks to Judiasm since Islam is not and Zoroastrians don't proselytize ? how would this affect history please answer the questions and like and the share the post
  10. No Islam No Holy Roman Empire ?

    with no Arabs to weaken Aquitaine can Charles Martel unite Franks without it can Charlemagne conquer Germany and Italy ? what becomes of Germany and Italy please answer the questions and like and the share the post
  11. WI: Nestorian Invasion of Egypt

    Let's say that in a no-Islam scenario, the Arabs unite under Nestorianism instead and still go through a period of conquest. While Nestorianism could spread to most places with little problem, would they have that same success in Egypt? Can Nestorianism become the religion of majority as Islam...
  12. WI: Christian Arabia

    The question is short and sweet, Muhammad never founds Islam so if the Arab tribes were to unify under a branch of Christianity, which form was the most likely for them to adopt? I personally think Nestorianism was the biggest candidate bit I'd like to know the odds for the other options as well...
  13. AHC: Worst Case For Christianity in A No Islam TL

    Most No Islam TLs have Christianity gobbling up basically the entire planet sans East Asia, so just to see the reverse: With a POD no earlier than 570 AD screw Christianity as hard as possible. No Islam-analogue (Single proselytizing religion sweeps a large chunk of Christendom) allowed. Try...
  14. No Islam TL

    I am making a TL where Islam does not exist. Tell me what you think. So Mohammed converts to Christianity before he invents Islam. He converts many Arabs to Christianity and is canonized after his death as the Apostle to Arabia. Without the Arab invasions, Byzantium and Persia slowly recover...
  15. WI: Medina is destroyed and Baby Mohammed are Killed during the Year of the Elephant

    In Islamic history, the Year of the Elephant is when Usurper general Abraha, ruler of Askumite Controlled South-Western Arabia, Is stopped in his tracks by a miraculous plague, as he attempts to conquer Medina, and possibly all of the Hejaz. What happens if he succeeds and Islam is never born, I...
  16. What if Medina and Baby Mohammed are Killed during the Year of the Elephant

    In Islamic history, the Year of the Elephant is when Usurper general Abraha, ruler of Askumite Controlled South-Western Arabia, Is stopped in his tracks by a miraculous plague, as he attempts to conquer Medina, and possibly all of the Hejaz. What happens if he succeeds and Islam is never born, I...
  17. Heirs of Heraclius, a no Islam timeline

    Hello iam golden silver 81 me and my friend Ikkermacht have made this timeline i will be posting i and my fried have written a lot but we can still rewrite many things some things to consider i will try to keep butterfly effects to minimum so that i might not suffer so much in thinkig of new...
  18. No Islam on Sub-Saharan Africa.

    Hey all, looking back I'm glad my first thread on this topic went well. Anyways, now I'll ask how a 'No Islam scenario would affect Africa', immensely I imagine. For a POD, once again Mohammed either never begins his teachings, or he just dies early. Whatever works. So here are some of my...
  19. Whiteshore

    DBWI: Arab Monotheistic Religion

    During the 7th century, Nestorian Christianity became the dominant religion of the Arabian peninsula, replacing Arab paganism as the main religion of the Arab tribes, but what if the Arabs came up with their own religion? What could be good PODs for such a religion arising? Muhammad not...
  20. No Christianity, No Islam- Alt Arabian Religions

    All righty, so in prepartions for a timeline project I might do here, I am wondering, what would be some alternate religions that could unite Arabia if Islam wasn't around? Also, for various reasons, Christianity is not a big factor here. The Roman Empire is not Christian here so basically alot...
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