very happy with the way things have turned out in Spain (I hope Alfonso becomes big and strong as well as a good ruler) I'm happy with Isabella (it was already said at the time that she was a saint, now that she it will not be queen (of Castile I mean eh ) perhaps her slightly fanatical aspects in defending Catholic orthodoxy won't emerge here (the inquisition (of the Spanish type ) is owed to her and her husband Otl who forced the papacy (note that Alexander VI was notoriously upset by this, even for how the inquisition was used in an extreme way sometimes, but she couldn't say it publicly ) has given them a huge control over the Iberian church as crusaders against the Muslims and the French), she can be truly considered a Pious and Blessed woman .

but it was also a period of striving towards religious conformity across the mediterranean so it's not too extreme compared to what happened 50 years after his death across europe (beginning of the wars of religion)

On the other hand Max and Emma are very sweet, even too much 😇😁
(it's nice that Frederick, even playing the stoic, slowly gives in to his wife to satisfy her desire to educate his son, and that he becomes attached to his future daughter-in-law even if she doesn't want to show him )
 
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Aww! That was so adorable!

Great to See Margaret bonding with Mary and emma and that she fulfilling her duty!

Max and Emma are really shaping up the Power couple of the Century!
 
Max and Emma are absolutely adorable and I can’t wait to see them grow up together. Also I’m so happy that Margaret and Charles have a son here.
 
Max and Emma are absolutely adorable and I can’t wait to see them grow up together. Also I’m so happy that Margaret and Charles have a son here.
Things will get A LOT more adorable between Maximilian and Emma until they get married, that's all I'm saying.

And baby Philippe will get to be as admirable as his grandfather :happyblush
 
Things will get A LOT more adorable between Maximilian and Emma until they get married, that's all I'm saying.

And baby Philippe will get to be as admirable as his grandfather :happyblush
Yay! And when do get married things will also get passionate!

And as much of a headache for France as dear ol daddy!
 
ok now I have a curiosity that assails me, according to you it would be absurd to think that Bessarion travels to the main kingdoms of Christianity (a sort of ante literam apostolic journeys, not all condensed obviously but diluted in his years of pontificate, perhaps lasting a month each (so first in France, then HRE and Spain with England I don't know if it's possible or not ?, it would not be so absurd, some popes both before and after being popes have traveled in the past (see Urban II, Gregory VII and many others) both to have formative experiences and for councils and the like) to make his voice and presence heard to his flock and at the same time to verify what doesn't it work locally in the clergy (also speaking with the rulers by chance?) so as to start the basis for a reform in the church?,
maybe he decides to create the pontifical academy in Rome ahead of time (to educate the clergy of Europe in a better way, especially if they have to work in the Vatican?)
 
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moreover perhaps he can convince Frederick together with Eleonore to send aid to Constantinople (perhaps the Teutonic knights?), given the family ties between the two empresses
 
Why would they do that?


because one is the head of the church (the emperor originally was the defender of the latter) second would be an agreement to start cleansing in the German clergy, as well as also help the wife's sister ( moreover it would show that emperor and pope are in agreement on something, which would also be a clear example that the papacy is no longer a church limited by the Alps but that it wants to go back to before: a universal church ) as well as further possible personal glory for the dynasty (as were the titles of defender of the faith in England, Catholic kings in Spain, most Christian king for Bourbons, in short, restore prestige to the title of HOLY ROMAN emperor )
 
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because one is the head of the church (the emperor originally was the defender of the latter) second would be an agreement to start cleansing in the German clergy, as well as also help the wife's sister ( moreover it would show that emperor and pope are in agreement on something, which would also be a clear example that the papacy is no longer a church limited by the Alps but that it wants to go back to before: a universal church )
I see.
 

not to mention that these gestures could be an inspiration for many of the future generation (Max, Richard, Alfonso, Luther and Hadrian (if they still decide to take the vows) or other people who in Otl have not gotten into the news ( 😉 allowing you to use ad hoc characters for the occasion )
 
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Chapter 17: Two Princesses
London, 11 February 1466: Elizabeth Woodville gives birth to her first child, a daughter named after herself. Baby Elizabeth of York is a beautiful and healthy little girl, who melts the hearts of her parents and grandparents. So much so, that her godmothers are both her grandmothers: Queen Cecily and Jacquetta of Luxembourg. Her godfather, is Richard Neville, Earl of Warwick, whose two children, Isabel (aged 14) and Richard (aged 9), carry the Royal Princess at her resplendent baptism.

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Elizabeth Woodville, Princess of Wales


York, 13 October 1466: Richard, Duke of Gloucester renounces his title and takes priestly vows. This is due to two reasons. Firstly, Richard has always been a devout child and seems to genuinely want a monastic life. Secondly, Queen Cecily, a very pious woman, always envisioned for Richard, her favorite son, to join the clergy. Richard allows it because it saves money and it’s one less son he has to worry about. Within a few years, Richard will find himself Bishop of York. Much to the surprise of the clerics, Richard manages his diocese well and shows wisdom beyond his years. Richard the elder sighs and remarks that he wishes his other sons were more like Richard. In the same ceremony, Margaret of Lancaster and Catherine Tudor are placed in a convent but do not take vows.

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Richard Plantagenet, Bishop of York


Windsor, 11 August 1467: Princess Elizabeth gives birth to a second child: another daughter. Unfortunately, the labor was too difficult and Elizabeth expires 30 minutes after the delivery. Before dying, she makes Edward promise five things. Firstly, she requests that their newborn daughter be named Jacquetta after her mother. Second, she asks that Edward never have a mistress again (he had carried out an affair with a young lady during the pregnancy with Jacquetta). Thirdly, she begs that Edward marry Margaret of Lancaster “for the peace of all England”. Finally, she also requests that he arrange proper marriages for their daughters and that she will be buried in splendor at Westminster Abbey. A pious woman despite her reputation, Elizabeth perishes just after receiving Christ’s Eucharist for the final time. Edward is heartbroken and sinks into a deep depression.

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Elizabeth Woodville, depicted in her Book of Hours made during her second pregnancy


Dunfermline, 14 January 1468: After catching tuberculosis in October 1467, King James III of Scotland dies in his mother’s arms. Queen Mary of Guelders is once again regent for the new monarch, her daughter, fifteen year old Mary. Princess Cecily of York, preparing to leave for her marriage to James in the spring, is so shocked she faints when told the news. Richard assures his favorite daughter that he will find her an even better husband.

Queen Dowager Mary is wary of the ambitious Boyd clan, who are demanding that their young leader, Thomas, Earl of Arran, marry Queen Mary. In record time, the regent writes to King Richard III asking for George, Duke of Clarence to marry her daughter. Richard sees a crown for his third son and agrees, sending George up to Scotland, where he and Mary will be crowned as King and Queen in May. Isabel Neville, his previous betrothed, is so heartbroken at the loss of her chance to be a royal Duchess that she commits herself to a convent.

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James III, King of Scotland


Holroyd, 17 April 1468: George of Clarence meets with the Dowager and her two daughters at Holroyd Abbey. He declares Mary so enchanting he simply must marry her at once. Calling for a priest, the marriage is completed and consummated with surprisingly little pomp. George thinks his new wife is a beautiful young woman, while Mary is entirely enamored with her husband and considered him the peak of handsomeness and intelligence. In fact, some courtiers go as far as to say that Mary is completely obsessed with her groom and she can’t live a minute without him.

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George, Duke of Clarence


Westminster, 27 June 1468: Having completed his mourning for Elizabeth Woodville, Edward is married to Margaret of Lancaster at Westminster Abbey. This is the first royal wedding to occur there since Richard II and Anne of Bohemia in 1382. The wedding itself is a grand affair. While Margaret is not a naughty woman, and this is Edward’s second marriage, Richard is so happy to see that the “last Lancastrian” has now been neutralized and that through her line shall come the next King, that he’s willing to splurge. Margaret sees the whole thing as fulfilling a duty, doing what she was born to do, and Edward is trying is best to be a good husband to Margaret, like he promised Elizabeth. Fortunately, she has already befriended with her new stepdaughters, Princesses Elizabeth and Jacquetta. She’s also known Cecily and Joan for ages, and is most happy to see them again.
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Edward and Margaret’s wedding


Somerset, 29 July 1469: Edmund, Duke of Somerset and Margaret Beaufort have a fourth child, another little girl named Alice. Their fourth child, added to a nursery that’s well educated and very well organized. Edmund and Margaret seemed to have found genuine happiness. This is in contrast to George and Mary, who are dealt with an unfortunate blow (outside of George’s philandering), with the news that Princess Margaret, an ambitious girl who outright hates her mother and sister, has ran away and eloped with Thomas Boyd, Earl of Arran, rebel and the Stewarts worst enemy. Margaret’s making it quite clear that she’s the true Queen, and now she’s claiming her sister (Mary) secretly took vows as a nun. In London, news treacles out of court that Margaret of Lancaster, Princess of Wales is expecting her first child.

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Margaret of Scotland, Countess of Arran


London, 13 January 1470: The Princess of Wales delivers her first child. There is some disappointment at the birth of a third daughter, this one named Margaret. But Edward’s just happy to see he’s got a living wife and three children and, moreover, decides to begin looking for marriages for his daughters. Princess Margaret shows an interest in the arts and Edward has this painting of her completed shortly after her first childbirth in 1470.

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Margaret, Princess of Wales, after having her first baby


Holroyd, 25 December 1470: In Scotland, Margaret, Countess of Arran has her first child, a son named James Boyd. Her sister Mary has long been frustrated by her inability to conceive, but as the New Year approaches she can safely announce her first child. George celebrates by getting drunk and participating in various vices.

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Mary, Queen Regnant of Scotland
 
Yes! Bess is here!

Richard will be a man of faith like no other.

RIP the White Queen, your legacy will live through your daughters.

Long live the Red Queen! Hope this will make the Plantagenets stronger than ever.

George will make a mess out of things in scotland, i know it, well this could lend a chance for my boy, the Soldier King, to gallop and conquer it later.
 
RIP the White Queen, your legacy will live through your daughters.
Well, to be perfectly pedantic, Elizabeth didn’t live to become queen TTL, but thankfully Edward is really stepping up as a father and will certainly ensure his girls have the most glittering futures possible. Maybe little Bess will become Queen of France like her badass namesake aunt before her?
 
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