DBWI: No Japanese occupation of North Korea

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Do you think the LAPA (Latin America and Pacific Alliance) will be a success ?
Too Early too call but the economical side would worth it alone, mostly as Latam got a partner for raw material and our agro-industrial goods and one at least is not a direct meddler like USA was, still just the unify economical treaties are in 'study phase', still i think you're overstating a lot cultural issues, again japan is a very right wing democracy but still one, even if millitaristic when latam is as democratic too
 
One of the biggest successes of LAPA was to brokering a true peace deal (that worked) between India and Pakistan. Of course, regime change in Pakistan helped a lot too.

Anyway, both India and Pakistan are thinking about joining LAPA. India was already on good terms with Japan and Vietnam (and bad terms with China), while Pakistan felt threatened by US invasion of Afghanistan and routine violating of Pakistani airspace.
 
One of the biggest successes of LAPA was to brokering a true peace deal (that worked) between India and Pakistan. Of course, regime change in Pakistan helped a lot too.

Anyway, both India and Pakistan are thinking about joining LAPA. India was already on good terms with Japan and Vietnam (and bad terms with China), while Pakistan felt threatened by US invasion of Afghanistan and routine violating of Pakistani airspace.
That is more as you say, Pakistan getting worried what USA do and relaxing as they feel safer with the new accord with India(even if the border is still a mess...but that is india mess so far..).

Still Wonder how would have affect Japanese Media, in mid to late 90's a lot of media export of japan switched to Latin america(specially as Dorama are just shorter telenovelas) and more anime that ever, would anime got that boom in USA?
 
Well, initially Japan just planned to create a new, healthier government in NK. But remnants of the Juche Army (with massive support from China and South Korea) carried a large guerilla campaign. It hampered all Japanese efforts, and also meant that if Japan pulled out, the old government would be back. And would again be a threat to Japan (with help from Seoul and Beijing).

Not to mention, Chinese sabre rattling against Japan.
At least, with NK as a giant airbase, Japan can threaten China with mutual destruction efficiency (with their chemical weapons), countering China's nuclear advantage.

Japan was basically forced into this position by the actions of Korea (both of them) and China.

Eh, I'd say that's an exaggeration. Tactically and operationally, the Japanese position in North Korea is bad, as their lines of supply and reinforcement over land and sea are under heavy risk of being interdicted by the PLAN and the ROKN, as well as by the PLAAF and ROKAF. And potentially even by the USN and USAF, considering South Korea is still a US ally. And the Japanese forces in the north - even if they are mostly PMCs - are very vulnerable to being pocketed and forced to surrender from north and south by the PLA and the ROKA.

The real value of Japanese-occupied North Korea, lies in the strategic sense. That they'd lose against China and South Korea (and possibly the USA) is without question...the problem is, even if they'd lose, that will take time, time enough for the Red Army to strike into Manchuria and bring in additional troops from further west. By the time PLA has won in North Korea, it's quite likely the north of Manchuria will already be under Russian occupation, and troops and supplies being moved in for a push south. A victory in North Korea against Japan is likely to turn into crushing defeat against Russia, and one the Chinese will dare not take the nuclear option to redress, given the Russians have over ten times as many nuclear weapons as China does.

Now, I know what you're thinking. Wouldn't NATO use this opportunity to strike into Russia? Maybe even take Kaliningrad on behalf of the Poles? Maybe...but only if it becomes a full-scale war, which is very unlikely to happen. In Europe, there'd be strong public opposition to an offensive campaign against Russia, with Germany and France having historical reasons to oppose it on top of decades' worth of public perception that NATO is a defensive alliance, and that war should only be waged following a Russian first strike. And even in the US, there'd be opposition to going to war over Manchuria, as the hard right has been increasingly sour over the years on why America sold Japan out all those years ago, and in so doing pushed them to the Russian camp, especially when Japan had superior geographical value over South Korea as an ally.

Any war would be limited to the Korean peninsula, along with Manchuria. American war goals would be to reunite the peninsula under the South Korean constitution, treaty neutrality for Korea afterwards in exchange for an end to the alliance with the USA (the Chinese will not want American troops on the peninsula) or a demilitarized border if the alliance is maintained (again to placate the Chinese), and status quo ante bellum Manchuria. They might also push for renewed and/or increased armaments limitations on Japan, but this not likely to stick, as Russia sees Japan as critical to power projection in the North Pacific. The Russians are likely to take advantage of Congress' reluctance to support a total war (and one which understandably has all the chances of going nuclear) to keep Japan as it is (minus North Korea) in exchange for accepting American terms with regard to the mainland.
 
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