As Dreamers Do: American Magic Redux
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Yes, he's still alive, but there are rumors that Yoko Ono could be filing for divorce real soon.
Let's review this plate of news...
Oh no.
Well, if the animated spinoff is getting a lot of backlash, why NOT give the source material a bit of backlash as well?
I prefer the Dallas Cowboys myself.
Does he mean Red Wings as in a chicken place? Or was he referring to a sports team?
I don't know anything about sports, but I hope he has a good run.
In the words of Jiminy Cricket during the climax of Pinocchio, "Well, it's about time!"
Ah good, interesting is that during 1981-82 would have been his comeback tour and he would've reunited with his family in Liverpool and relatives in Scotland IIRC.
Surely between now and 1985, egos will be healed and we see that comeback appearance on Live Aid for the Beatles.
Yes, but can an aging Fab Four compete with Freddie on the Wembley stage?
Close second, but still a reunited Fab Four would a hell of a lot better than the disastrous Led Zeppelin reunion.
PNWKing
Banned
I think once again that RCA is in dire straits. Maybe now is the time to sell NBC, the "Crown Jewel" of the company. Potential bidders include MCA, Turner, TIme, Warner, Viacom, Gulf & Western, Taft Broadcasting, Turner, Marriott, Zayre, Nabisco, Wometco, Sears Roebuck, Montgomery Ward, Disney, Berkshire-Hathaway, Mars, Ford, General Mills, and Levi Strauss & Co.
The bidding war for NBC will be bitter and bloody.
Not to mention that Bill Cosby has also thrown his hat into the ring.
Questions submitted by @Mitch!
For one thing, there is the revelation that Hanna-Barbera, during Daniel Abbott’s infiltration of the studio, made an animated spin-off of The Facts of Life, entitled Eastland Girls. Was Daniel, as “Trevor Strong,” part of the show’s animation team, and if not, what did he do while at H-B?
Answer: "Trevor" was initially assigned to layout artist on The Smurfs and Laverne and Shirley in the Army. John K. was the head writer on Eastland Girls until the fallout from the Home Economics episode forced HB to have John and "Trevor" swap positions.
Then, there’s the coincidence that Abbott’s run with the FBI is occurring alongside the cinematic debut of another Disney movie, Condorman, in August of 1981. Should Abbott’s “mission” be a success, and John K. is exposed early, will Condorman become more notorious or more popular?
Answer: Because of Captain America being released in July of '81, Condorman is delayed by at least a year.
Speaking of which, there is also the reveal that Huck’s Landing will receive a theatrical release, alongside Mickey’s Christmas Carol, in 1983. Considering the fact that Disney’s take on The Jungle Book premieres the next year, how will the plot to either film differentiate from the other?
Answer: The Jungle Book will likely be the same as OTL.
For one thing, there is the revelation that Hanna-Barbera, during Daniel Abbott’s infiltration of the studio, made an animated spin-off of The Facts of Life, entitled Eastland Girls. Was Daniel, as “Trevor Strong,” part of the show’s animation team, and if not, what did he do while at H-B?
Answer: "Trevor" was initially assigned to layout artist on The Smurfs and Laverne and Shirley in the Army. John K. was the head writer on Eastland Girls until the fallout from the Home Economics episode forced HB to have John and "Trevor" swap positions.
Then, there’s the coincidence that Abbott’s run with the FBI is occurring alongside the cinematic debut of another Disney movie, Condorman, in August of 1981. Should Abbott’s “mission” be a success, and John K. is exposed early, will Condorman become more notorious or more popular?
Answer: Because of Captain America being released in July of '81, Condorman is delayed by at least a year.
Speaking of which, there is also the reveal that Huck’s Landing will receive a theatrical release, alongside Mickey’s Christmas Carol, in 1983. Considering the fact that Disney’s take on The Jungle Book premieres the next year, how will the plot to either film differentiate from the other?
Answer: The Jungle Book will likely be the same as OTL.
Pogo For President (1981 Film)
Pogo for President
Released by RKO Radio Pictures on December 25, 1981
Based on the Pogo comic strip by
Walt Kelly
Production Companies
Possum Productions
Stowmar Enterprises
Distributor
RKO Radio Pictures
The Pogo comic strip was discontinued after the death of creator Walt Kelly in 1973. The Kelly estate hoped the release of this film would introduce the Pogo characters to a new generation. Instead, most of the ticket sales came from adults in their mid-thirties who grew up with the original newspaper comic strip.
Released by RKO Radio Pictures on December 25, 1981
Based on the Pogo comic strip by
Walt Kelly
Production Companies
Possum Productions
Stowmar Enterprises
Distributor
RKO Radio Pictures
The Pogo comic strip was discontinued after the death of creator Walt Kelly in 1973. The Kelly estate hoped the release of this film would introduce the Pogo characters to a new generation. Instead, most of the ticket sales came from adults in their mid-thirties who grew up with the original newspaper comic strip.
Well, this is an oddball of an update! Still, it feels quite quaint to see an artist named Walt have his greatest achievement associated with RKO Radio Pictures...Pogo for President
Released by RKO Radio Pictures on December 25, 1981
Based on the Pogo comic strip by
Walt Kelly
Production Companies
Possum Productions
Stowmar Enterprises
Distributor
RKO Radio Pictures
The Pogo comic strip was discontinued after the death of creator Walt Kelly in 1973. The Kelly estate hoped the release of this film would introduce the Pogo characters to a new generation. Instead, most of the ticket sales came from adults in their mid-thirties who grew up with the original newspaper comic strip.
But enough about Song of the South.
Catfish Bend (1981 Film)
Catfish Bend
Released on December 25, 1981
Production Company
Nelvana
Distributor
TriStar Pictures
Directed by
Zack Dillinger
Executive Producers
Clive A. Smith
Patrick Joubert
Michael Hirsh
Based on the books by
Ben Lucian Burman
Inspired by the characters created by Ben Lucien Burman, Catfish Bend told the tale of a raccoon pastor leading a group of critters in their escape from heavy flooding of the Mississippi River. Not only did Catfish Bend boast action and adventure, it also boasted three, yes, THREE sets of villains: city rats, vultures and weasels! Legendary Disney animator Wolfgang Reitherman brought a five page treatment of Catfish Bend to Nelvana and was heavily involved with pre-production work on the film. After Reitherman made an abrupt return to the Disney studio, Nelvana was able to keep the production on schedule under the eagle eye of fellow animation veteran Zack Dillinger. Released on the same Christmas Day as RKO's Pogo for President, Catfish would prove more popular, especially with weak box office competition.
Voices
Kris Kristofferson as Doc Raccoon
George Lindsey as Judge Black; A snake
Kurt Russell as JC the Fox
Stan Freberg as the Rabbit
John McIntire as the Frog
Thurl Ravenscroft as Old Joe the Alligator
Candy Candido as the Bloodhound
Dub Taylor as the Beaver
Brad Dourif as City Rat Leader
Pat Buttram as Weasel Leader
Ken Curtis as Vulture Leader
Kenny Rogers and Dolly Parton as Mr and Mrs Goose
Released on December 25, 1981
Production Company
Nelvana
Distributor
TriStar Pictures
Directed by
Zack Dillinger
Executive Producers
Clive A. Smith
Patrick Joubert
Michael Hirsh
Based on the books by
Ben Lucian Burman
Inspired by the characters created by Ben Lucien Burman, Catfish Bend told the tale of a raccoon pastor leading a group of critters in their escape from heavy flooding of the Mississippi River. Not only did Catfish Bend boast action and adventure, it also boasted three, yes, THREE sets of villains: city rats, vultures and weasels! Legendary Disney animator Wolfgang Reitherman brought a five page treatment of Catfish Bend to Nelvana and was heavily involved with pre-production work on the film. After Reitherman made an abrupt return to the Disney studio, Nelvana was able to keep the production on schedule under the eagle eye of fellow animation veteran Zack Dillinger. Released on the same Christmas Day as RKO's Pogo for President, Catfish would prove more popular, especially with weak box office competition.
Voices
Kris Kristofferson as Doc Raccoon
George Lindsey as Judge Black; A snake
Kurt Russell as JC the Fox
Stan Freberg as the Rabbit
John McIntire as the Frog
Thurl Ravenscroft as Old Joe the Alligator
Candy Candido as the Bloodhound
Dub Taylor as the Beaver
Brad Dourif as City Rat Leader
Pat Buttram as Weasel Leader
Ken Curtis as Vulture Leader
Kenny Rogers and Dolly Parton as Mr and Mrs Goose
@PNWKing
Here's a rough release schedule as we move into 1982. Everything on this list is subject to change.
1982
Heidi's Song (Hanna-Barbera)
Star Trek II (RKO)
Nessie 3 (Universal)
ET: The Extra Terrestrial (TBA)
The Dark Crystal (Henson)
TRON (Disney)
Condorman (Disney)
Porky's (Grand Diamond)
Fast Times at Ridgemont High (TBA)
The Secret of NIMH (Disney)
Rambo: First Blood (TBA)
Gandhi (TBA)
Conan the Barbarian (TBA)
Beastmaster (TBA)
Poltergeist (Turner)
Blade Runner (Ladd Company)
1983
Revenge/Return of the Jedi (Fox)
Monty Python's The Meaning of Life (Fox)
Scarface (Universal)
Huck's Landing (Disney)
Octopussy (Turner)
Mr. Mom (TBA)
National Lampoon's Vacation (Warner Bros)
War Games (Turner)
Valley Girl (TBA)
Trading Places (TBA)
48 Hrs. (TBA)
1984
Splash (TBA)
Ghostbusters (Paramount)
The Jungle Book (Disney)
This is Spinal Tap (Embassy)
Gremlins (Warner Bros)
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (Fox)
Nightmare on Elm Street (New Line)
The Muppets Take Manhattan (Henson)
2010: The Year we Make Contact (Turner)
The Terminator (Hemdale)
Revenge of the Nerds (TBA)
Sixteen Candles (TBA)
The Flamingo Kid (TBA)
Red Dawn (Turner)
The Neverending Story (TBA)
The Karate Kid (TBA)
Nineteen Eighty Four (Fox)
Once Upon a Time in America (TBA)
Police Academy (TBA)
Footloose (TBA)
Amadeus (TBA)
The Natural (TriStar)
Beverly Hills Cop (TBA)
Purple Rain (TBA)
Hardbodies (TBA)
Top Secret (Paramount)
1985
Brazil (Hyperion)
A View to A Kill (Turner)
The Goonies (Warner Bros)
The Black Cauldron (Disney)
Pee Wee's Big Adventure (TBA)
To Live and Die in LA (TBA)
Follow that Bird (Henson)
Back to the Future (TBA)
The Care Bears Movie (Nelvana)
Weird Science (TBA)
Better off Dead (TBA)
Repo Man (TBA)
The Breakfast Club (TBA)
Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend (TBA)
St. Elmo's Fire (TBA)
Teen Wolf (TBA)
Witness (TBA)
1986
Basil of Baker Street (Disney)
An American Tail (Universal; Famous Studios)
Xenomorph II (Grand Diamond)
Stand By Me (TBA)
Labyrinth (Henson)
RoboCop (Hemdale)
Crocodile Dundee (TBA)
Ferris Bueller's Day Off (TBA)
Pretty in Pink (TBA)
Down and Out in Beverly Hills (TBA)
The Color of Money (TBA)
Howard the Duck (Fox)
Maximum Overdrive (TBA)
Top Gun (Paramount)
Flight of the Navigator (Disney)
Platoon (Hemdale)
Little Shop of Horrors (TBA)
Big Trouble in Little China (TBA)
Critters (New Line)
The Golden Child (TBA)
Milo and Otis (Columbia)
Back to School (TBA)
1987
Spaceballs (TBA)
The Living Daylights (Turner)
Moonstruck (Turner)
The Brave Little Toaster (Disney)
Oliver and Company (Disney)
The Chipmunk Adventure (Goldwyn)
Predator (Grand Diamond)
Planes, Trains and Automobiles (TBA)
Ernest Goes to Camp (TBA)
Three Men and a Baby (TBA)
Adventures in Babysitting (TBA)
Raising Arizona (TBA)
Overboard (Turner)
Fatal Attraction (TBA)
Wall Street (TBA)
The Princess Bride (TBA)
The Last Emperor (Hemdale)
Harry and the Hendersons (Universal)
Dirty Dancing (TBA)
Batteries Not Included (TBA)
Lethal Weapon (Warner Bros)
Throw Momma From the Train (TBA)
Good Morning Vietnam (TBA)
1988
Beetlejuice (TBA)
Tucker: The Man and His Dream (TBA)
Willow (TBA)
Who Framed Roger Rabbit (Fox; Richard Williams)
The Land Before Time (Disney)
A Fish Called Wanda (TBA)
Hairspray (New Line)
Die Hard (TBA)
Mystic Pizza (TBA)
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels (TBA)
The Naked Gun (TBA)
Coming to America (Paramount)
Twins (TBA)
Scrooged (Paramount)
Heathers (TBA)
Dangerous Liaisons (TBA)
Earth Girls are Easy (TBA)
Bull Durham (TBA)
Killer Klowns from Outer Space (TBA)
Mac and Me (TBA)
Colors (TBA)
1989
Licence Revoked (Turner)
Batman (Columbia)
The Little Mermaid (Disney)
Uncle Buck (TBA)
Do the Right Thing (Universal)
Dead Poets Society (TBA)
Parenthood (TBA)
Weekend at Bernie's (TBA)
When Harry Met Sally (TBA)
Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure (TBA)
The Wizard (TBA)
Look Who's Talking (TriStar)
The Burbs (Universal)
Field of Dreams (Universal)
UHF (TBA)
Major League (TBA)
Turner and Hooch (TBA)
Black Rain (TBA)
Here are the studios as of January 1982
Buena Vista (Distributor for Disney, Fox and Hyperion)
Turner (Distributor for United Artists and MGM)
Paramount Pictures
Columbia Pictures
Warner Bros.
Universal Pictures
RKO Radio Pictures
Grand Diamond
New Line Cinema
Atlantic Releasing
Hemdale Film Corporation
Orion Pictures
Touchstone Pictures (A joint venture of Jim Henson and Hanna-Barbera)
Miramax Films
Cannon Group
Vestron
TriStar Pictures (Co-owned by CBS, MCA and Gulf+Western)
Embassy Pictures
ABC Motion Pictures
Here's a rough release schedule as we move into 1982. Everything on this list is subject to change.
1982
Heidi's Song (Hanna-Barbera)
Star Trek II (RKO)
Nessie 3 (Universal)
ET: The Extra Terrestrial (TBA)
The Dark Crystal (Henson)
TRON (Disney)
Condorman (Disney)
Porky's (Grand Diamond)
Fast Times at Ridgemont High (TBA)
The Secret of NIMH (Disney)
Rambo: First Blood (TBA)
Gandhi (TBA)
Conan the Barbarian (TBA)
Beastmaster (TBA)
Poltergeist (Turner)
Blade Runner (Ladd Company)
1983
Revenge/Return of the Jedi (Fox)
Monty Python's The Meaning of Life (Fox)
Scarface (Universal)
Huck's Landing (Disney)
Octopussy (Turner)
Mr. Mom (TBA)
National Lampoon's Vacation (Warner Bros)
War Games (Turner)
Valley Girl (TBA)
Trading Places (TBA)
48 Hrs. (TBA)
1984
Splash (TBA)
Ghostbusters (Paramount)
The Jungle Book (Disney)
This is Spinal Tap (Embassy)
Gremlins (Warner Bros)
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (Fox)
Nightmare on Elm Street (New Line)
The Muppets Take Manhattan (Henson)
2010: The Year we Make Contact (Turner)
The Terminator (Hemdale)
Revenge of the Nerds (TBA)
Sixteen Candles (TBA)
The Flamingo Kid (TBA)
Red Dawn (Turner)
The Neverending Story (TBA)
The Karate Kid (TBA)
Nineteen Eighty Four (Fox)
Once Upon a Time in America (TBA)
Police Academy (TBA)
Footloose (TBA)
Amadeus (TBA)
The Natural (TriStar)
Beverly Hills Cop (TBA)
Purple Rain (TBA)
Hardbodies (TBA)
Top Secret (Paramount)
1985
Brazil (Hyperion)
A View to A Kill (Turner)
The Goonies (Warner Bros)
The Black Cauldron (Disney)
Pee Wee's Big Adventure (TBA)
To Live and Die in LA (TBA)
Follow that Bird (Henson)
Back to the Future (TBA)
The Care Bears Movie (Nelvana)
Weird Science (TBA)
Better off Dead (TBA)
Repo Man (TBA)
The Breakfast Club (TBA)
Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend (TBA)
St. Elmo's Fire (TBA)
Teen Wolf (TBA)
Witness (TBA)
1986
Basil of Baker Street (Disney)
An American Tail (Universal; Famous Studios)
Xenomorph II (Grand Diamond)
Stand By Me (TBA)
Labyrinth (Henson)
RoboCop (Hemdale)
Crocodile Dundee (TBA)
Ferris Bueller's Day Off (TBA)
Pretty in Pink (TBA)
Down and Out in Beverly Hills (TBA)
The Color of Money (TBA)
Howard the Duck (Fox)
Maximum Overdrive (TBA)
Top Gun (Paramount)
Flight of the Navigator (Disney)
Platoon (Hemdale)
Little Shop of Horrors (TBA)
Big Trouble in Little China (TBA)
Critters (New Line)
The Golden Child (TBA)
Milo and Otis (Columbia)
Back to School (TBA)
1987
Spaceballs (TBA)
The Living Daylights (Turner)
Moonstruck (Turner)
The Brave Little Toaster (Disney)
Oliver and Company (Disney)
The Chipmunk Adventure (Goldwyn)
Predator (Grand Diamond)
Planes, Trains and Automobiles (TBA)
Ernest Goes to Camp (TBA)
Three Men and a Baby (TBA)
Adventures in Babysitting (TBA)
Raising Arizona (TBA)
Overboard (Turner)
Fatal Attraction (TBA)
Wall Street (TBA)
The Princess Bride (TBA)
The Last Emperor (Hemdale)
Harry and the Hendersons (Universal)
Dirty Dancing (TBA)
Batteries Not Included (TBA)
Lethal Weapon (Warner Bros)
Throw Momma From the Train (TBA)
Good Morning Vietnam (TBA)
1988
Beetlejuice (TBA)
Tucker: The Man and His Dream (TBA)
Willow (TBA)
Who Framed Roger Rabbit (Fox; Richard Williams)
The Land Before Time (Disney)
A Fish Called Wanda (TBA)
Hairspray (New Line)
Die Hard (TBA)
Mystic Pizza (TBA)
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels (TBA)
The Naked Gun (TBA)
Coming to America (Paramount)
Twins (TBA)
Scrooged (Paramount)
Heathers (TBA)
Dangerous Liaisons (TBA)
Earth Girls are Easy (TBA)
Bull Durham (TBA)
Killer Klowns from Outer Space (TBA)
Mac and Me (TBA)
Colors (TBA)
1989
Licence Revoked (Turner)
Batman (Columbia)
The Little Mermaid (Disney)
Uncle Buck (TBA)
Do the Right Thing (Universal)
Dead Poets Society (TBA)
Parenthood (TBA)
Weekend at Bernie's (TBA)
When Harry Met Sally (TBA)
Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure (TBA)
The Wizard (TBA)
Look Who's Talking (TriStar)
The Burbs (Universal)
Field of Dreams (Universal)
UHF (TBA)
Major League (TBA)
Turner and Hooch (TBA)
Black Rain (TBA)
Here are the studios as of January 1982
Buena Vista (Distributor for Disney, Fox and Hyperion)
Turner (Distributor for United Artists and MGM)
Paramount Pictures
Columbia Pictures
Warner Bros.
Universal Pictures
RKO Radio Pictures
Grand Diamond
New Line Cinema
Atlantic Releasing
Hemdale Film Corporation
Orion Pictures
Touchstone Pictures (A joint venture of Jim Henson and Hanna-Barbera)
Miramax Films
Cannon Group
Vestron
TriStar Pictures (Co-owned by CBS, MCA and Gulf+Western)
Embassy Pictures
ABC Motion Pictures
One Fine Day at the Hanna-Barbera Water Cooler
"Trevor Strong" (Fake Australian Accent): "So tell me, Johnny, how DID you manage to get that Home Economics episode on the air?"
*John K looks around for eavesdroppers*
"Trevor": "It's okay, Johnny. Your secret is safe with me."
John K: "It was real easy. I sent a fake script to [the Cartoon Czar], delayed production as long as I could and called it a 'massive rewrite,' then I bribed the NBC censors. By the way, do you have Nancy McKeon's phone number? Or Felice Shachter's? Maybe you can hook me up with Molly Ringwald? I'd like at least one of 'em to gimme a call."
"Trevor": "Over my dead body, mate!"
Meanwhile in a van parked outside the studio...
Agent Hill: "Good work, Trevor."
*turns to his colleagues*
Agent Hill: "Let's move!"