Any timelines as dystopian as Anglo-American Nazi War?

Erizium · Dec 30, 2019

AANW is my favorite dystopian (or depressing, give or take) alternate timeline and at the same time being completely plausible.

Besides ones that feature 1983: Doomsday (sorry for the example)-esque nuclear war, are there any other good and finished/near finished alternate histories on these forums (pre and post 1900) that the community may direct me to?

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Hagre · Dec 30, 2019

The Footprint of Mussolini?

Resurgam · Dec 30, 2019

I don't think you can get more dystopian than the aforementioned A-A/NW and 1983 D. I mean, everyone fucking dies and those who don't are very sad is a pretty high bar to clear.

Tales Weaver · Dec 30, 2019

What Madness is This can I recommend this?

GeneralishJing07 · Dec 30, 2019

From what I've read:

What Madness Is This?
Fear, Loathing, and Gumbo, and its sequel, Rumsfeldia

LumineVonReuental · Dec 30, 2019

Icarus Falls and Icarus Rising.

Lalli · Dec 30, 2019

Hagre said:
The Footprint of Mussolini?

TFoM is not as hellish dystopic as AANW. Not even near. Of course it is for some people like Slovenes and Arabs really shitty world but not such hellhole. Even Twilight of the Red Tsar is more dystopic. I barely can see TFoM even as dystopic TL. Yes it is bit worse world as OTL but not so bad.

BeardedHoplite · Dec 30, 2019

LumineVonReuental said:
Icarus Falls and Icarus Rising.

A fellow man of culture

edgeworthy · Dec 30, 2019

There's always the Guns of Nazi Germany... but that involves Time Travel.

BigBlueBox · Dec 30, 2019

For All Time is the classic dystopic timeline. It seems to have established the idea that having Wallace as President would be terrible. It's focused on making the most craptastic world possible though, not realism.

anotherlurker · Dec 30, 2019

The one with the Nazis owning the Stargate, with immortal Goauld Hitler in command.

Darksider166 · Dec 30, 2019

No W by Lost Freeway (banned but updates still pop up on another site and posted here).

Whiteshore · Dec 30, 2019

Decisive Darkness. I can unironically say the Soviet puppet state in the WPDJ is the Best Japan there.

Bookmark1995 · Dec 30, 2019

Uh...

The world "dystopia" describes a world that is within the realm of fiction. "Dystopia" goes into the realm of the impossible.

I think TLs that we describe as "dystopian" are actually...plausible.

AANW is disturbingly plausible. The OTL parallel to AANW's destruction of Paris is the destruction of Warsaw. The OTL parallel to the murder of tens of millions of Eastern Europeans was the OTL Holocaust, which tragically succeeded in destroying centuries of Jewish culture.

Besides in AANW, other nations actually are better off than OTL, like a non-partitioned India and Brazil.

The real world has many horrors, but there are also signs of progress as well.

Samsara123 · Dec 30, 2019

Drakaverse cause it cause so many rage episodes and curbstomp fics tells volumes of how shitty it is

Whiteshore · Dec 30, 2019

Bookmark1995 said:
The OTL parallel to AANW's destruction of Paris is the destruction of Warsaw.

Worse. At least Warsaw was reconstructed and a historical destruction of Paris in 1944 would "merely" have resulted in Plan Voisin by Le Corbusier being implemented. Paris was abandoned in AANW.

The Red · Dec 30, 2019

Bookmark1995 said:
AANW is disturbingly plausible.

AANW isn't particularly plausible at all. I'm a fan of the work but the author himself admitted he was out to create a certain scenario rather than aim for plausibility.

Bookmark1995 · Dec 30, 2019

Whiteshore said:
Worse. At least Warsaw was reconstructed and a historical destruction of Paris in 1944 would "merely" have resulted in Plan Voisin by Le Corbusier being implemented. Paris was abandoned in AANW.

OTL Nazis engaged in scorch-earth tactics as they were pushed out of the USSR.

TTL, their weapons of destruction would've been far more sophisticated after several more years of power.