Anime and Manga PODs

Honestly, considering how popular anime and manga have become outside Japan in recent decades, I think a thread like this was inevitable.

I have some potential ideas:

- What if the original Gundam series hadn't been cut down to 43 episodes?
- What if The Big O got a third season?
- What if Berserk had been a Shonen series like Miura originally intended?
- What if Shinji from Evangelion had been a girl as initially planned?
- What if the Porygon episode of the Pokémon anime didn't cause the infamous seizures?
- What if Akira Toriyama hadn't forgotten Launch existed?
 
If there was no Evangelion, you would delay the rise of late-night anime ie. most of the series people watch to this day. It proved TV executives that there actually were people who would watch animated series targetted at older audiences in the middle of night and helped stations to fill those slots which generally were difficult to fill with anything popular.

No Haruhi Suzumiya and you would probably get less series based on LNs. Probably not enough to prevent that, it is little too obvious development but the series' popularity was huge at the time and certainly influenced where the industry would start to look more and more for inspiration and quickened the process. It also helped to popularize sort of meta-humor about otaku culture you can nowadays find almost in any series.
 
To Toyama might’ve had Launch with Yamcha near the end and probably be a parent. Beyond that, probably not much else I can think of
 
My personal what-ifs

1. Tomino Yoshiyuki received professional mental help after production finished on the original Mobile Suit Gundam.
2. F-30/F-31/F-32 and/or Crossbone Gundam had gotten picked up as a full series, while Unicorn Gundam and Hathaway's Flash were made in the Early Nineties, meaning that Victory Gundam wouldn't have meant such a drastic timeskip in the Universal Century continuity.
3. Frozen Teardrop was actually produced as a series Ca. 2000, making it a follow up to the original Gundam Wing and Endless Waltz, meaning that the Cosmic Era is not the second Gundam continuity to receive multiple seasons, and also gets shown on Toonami Midnight Run/Adult Swim immediately after Gundam Wing.
4. The Headmasters, Super God Masterforce, and Victory saw broadcast in the U.S., albeit with new scripts and editing to better reflect Hasbro's direction for the Transformers lineup, if that were possible .
5. Marvel had managed hold on to their Dynamic Productions license, and Cobra Commander's origin could be tied to the Dinosaur Empire of Getter Robo fame, which Marvel had previously licensed as Starvengers.

I may have more in a while.
 
Mobile Suit Gundam Meteor (1994-96 Japanese broadcast; 2000-02 North American broadcast) was the first introduction many non-Japanese viewers had with the lengthy Gundam franchise and with the Universal Century continuity in particular. For many it was the 'gateway drug' for fans to be introduced to the 'mecha' genre of animation, the nearest approximation of which in the North American experience was The Transformers, nearly two decades prior. The success of Meteor is all the more surprising given its origins in two failed Gundam series, Mobile Suit Gundam F91, and Mobile Suit Victory Gundam.

F91
had always been intended to be a full-length series but had been shortened to a single movie [1]. After the cancellation of Mobile Suit Victory Gundam while still in preproduction [2], Yoshiyuki Tomino and some of his staff took a year off and polished out the series' story and visual style while the Gundam franchise was on hiatus, taking some of the characters and designs from the cancelled Victory and reintroduced them in an all-new story, centered around "Operation Meteor", from which the series derived its name. On consultation with contacts at Sunrise (the series treatment was still being done on Tomino's own time at this point), the new series would feature a team of Gundam pilots instead of a single 'hero' character. This would allow each character the freedom to operate independently or in small groups, as well as all together. It was also decided that the series would focus more on the characters operating outside of their Mobile Suits and interpersonal drama, with combat scenes given more weight by using them more sparingly [3].

Picking up plot elements introduced in F91 and the unmade Victory, Operation Meteor was a "vengeance operation" by the defeated Crossbone Vanguard against the Earth Federation, infiltrating a small number of extremely powerful Mobile Suits patterned after the Gundam series [4] onto Earth with the express mission of executing precision attacks to weaken and ultimately topple the Federation government. Although starting as members of the enemy faction, the main characters' experiences on Earth would ultimately change their allegiances, turning them against the very people they were once considered fanatically loyal to.
Themes of vengeance, forgiveness, loyalty, love, and redemption were threaded throughout the series, providing the through line for each character's journey towards their ultimate goal of peace.

When Sunrise began planning its 1994 season Tomino was able to drop Gundam Meteor as a complete package, with most of the story and concept work already complete. Unsurprisingly it was accepted with some edits that were easily accommodated [5]. Perhaps Tomino's greatest feat was laying out the story so that it could easily be paced as either a single or double-length season, depending on how generous with funding Sunrise would be, avoiding the 'plot crunch' of trying to fit a story into a format too small for it Tomino was all too familiar with [6]. Impressed with the treatment, Sunrise approved of the full-length series, although it would be split between two distinct seasons, necessitating the inclusion of a Season One climax. The requisite story changes were complete within a week, although Tomino had been canny enough to make the season finale a cliffhanger to try and avoid Sunrise pulling the plug on Season Two.
He needn't have worried, Mobile Suit Gundam Meteor performed better than anticipated on broadcast in 1994, marking what would be called the start of "Gundam's Next Generation", a reference to Star Trek's revitalization. While it would be Tomino's last work on the UC Gundam timeline, the franchise would continue to produce OVAs and movies set in the Universal Century.
Tomino's next offering in the Gundam franchise, Turn A Gundam (1999) for the franchise's 20th anniversary, would introduce the franchise to alternate timelines via the "Correct Century" and the implication that there could be multiple Gundam universes beyond the familiar UC continuity (and not just the decidedly non-canon SD Gundam).


[1] As in OTL, this does a good deal to explain the pacing issues F91 has, proceeding at break-neck speed through its second and third acts.
[2] The 1993 broadcast slot originally slated for Victory was taken up by SD Gundam Masterforce Sengoku, the first in the mini-franchise not to have a connection with the main Gundam continuity, which endeared itself to audiences for its comedic telling of the Sengoku Jidai IN SPACE. Characters from "SDG Sengoku" would make cameos in many later Sunrise works, usually as toys seen in the background.
[3] This would ultimately make the series remarkably successful with female demographics, though this was not explicitly planned for at the time. It would also be credited for popularizing the "Shoujo Mecha" genre alongside Vision of Escaflowne.
[4] Each would be a variation on the unused Victory Gundam, tailored to each character's particular talents and combat style. Following the design style started in F91, the newest Gundams would be smaller and more agile than previous generations, despite having a greater power output. Meteor would hold the distinction of having both the smallest (the Meteor series themselves) and largest (Psycho Gundam III "Babylon Gundam") Gundams in the UC continuity.
[5] Primarily character related. Relina's role was expanded, Noin was made less malevolent (that role would be picked up by Adams) and more professional, Zechs had a total redesign to make him more visually distinct (incidentally resulting in his becoming the first unquestionable "Char Clone" in Gundam's fandom).
[6] Gundam Reconguista in G is just the latest of many Gundam and Tomino creations to suffer this fate OTL.
 
Graham B

So, basically, it's a Universal Century Gundam Wing? I suppose that works. Does this mean that Heero is seen even more as the Anti-Amuro, considering that he isn't a Newtype, but managed to master Mobile Suit combat through Training from Hell alone?
 
So, basically, it's a Universal Century Gundam Wing?
Bingo. "Meteor" was the original name for Wing before it was changed (which Tomino didn't even work on, OTL).
Hiro would be considered an anti-Amuro for being highly trained, driven, and motivated, rather than any Newtype status. Same could be said for all five of the Meteor pilots, really.

Fun fact: would you believe the basic treatment for Wing's first 40 episodes was finished in one week? Even with a group working collaboratively that's nuts!
 
- What if Shinji from Evangelion had been a girl as initially planned?
I wonder which of the other two would have been genderswapped?,maybe we got a nagisa as rey early? and evangelion become more like a proto utena, desconstructing not only mecha but shojou tropes and Anno own favorite gunbuster along the ride?
 
2. F-30/F-31/F-32 and/or Crossbone Gundam had gotten picked up as a full series, while Unicorn Gundam and Hathaway's Flash were made in the Early Nineties, meaning that Victory Gundam wouldn't have meant such a drastic timeskip in the Universal Century continuity.
That whole era of Gundam (basically from ZZ Gundam to F91 IRL and some of the novels like Beltorchika's Children and Hathaway's Flash) was riddled with production difficulties and behind the scenes drama. Like ZZ went through a bunch of rewrites, including during production when they greenlit production for a Gundam movie (which became Char's Counterattack). This is why Glemy's character dramatically changes during the show since originally Char himself was supposed to return. As for the material behind Char's Counterattack (like Beltorchika's Children) there was enough material to fill an OVA with and function as a truly epic ending to the Amuro - Char rivalry. It's where you get the Hi-Nu Gundam and Nightingale as upgrades for Nu Gundam and Sazabi respectively and seeing that animated would've been incredible.

Unicorn doesn't belong since it was written much later and while it's an interesting story (and done in 90s Sunrise OVA animation would still be beautiful as hell) it clashes with a lot of UC canon set before and after. IMO there's not much more to that story that needs to be told. Had there been a successful F91 OVA or TV version followed up by maybe a Crossbone OVA instead of turning scripts for various episodes into the movie we could probably see less of a focus on Zeon in UC Gundam media in favour of more stories elsewhere in that era like with the Titans and Neo-Zeon (which still gives the opportunity to show popular characters like Amuro and Char). And preferably find a way to link Victory better to the rest of UC Gundam, although IIRC one of the later Crossbone Gundam manga tried (haven't read it yet).

As for the other Gundam PoD worth noting, not having Gundam X be cancelled and having it run the full 50-52 episodes planned. This means the last arc isn't so abridged and the shows relation to the original Gundam is allowed to truly shine (considering it's almost an AH story about "what if the Federation mass-produced an even more powerful Gundam while Zeon dropped all the colonies and then Amuro became a grizzled war veteran mentor?"). In this scenario it's likely it becomes (even more of) a cult classic.
 
Here's one: What if One Piece did not get dubbed by 4Kids early on, but ended up with Funimation from the get go? Only reason 4Kids dubbed One Piece because it was forced on them by a deal to dub another anime (some magical girl anime they actually wanted). So here, maybe things go different and Funimation works on One Piece from the get-go?

Honestly, I think this will make One Piece even more popular over in the states since it would be hampered by the 4Kids dub and its perception, which would get more people on board with it and it would gain a large popularity mroeover in the US. I don't know the full rammifications of it all though.
 
Yoshio Irie doesn't become editor of Nakayoshi in 1990
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Nakayoshi doesn't diverge from its "boy meets girl" format stories
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Sailor Moon doesn't premiere in said magazine in December 1991
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???
 
Yoshio Irie doesn't become editor of Nakayoshi in 1990
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Nakayoshi doesn't diverge from its "boy meets girl" format stories
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Sailor Moon doesn't premiere in said magazine in December 1991
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???

Then it debuts in another Shoujo Magazine, like Weekly Margaret, Young Margaret, or Shoujo Comic. Considering that the groundwork had been laid as far back as Cutie Honey and Sally the Little Witch, it was Steam Engine Time for the Teen Girl Superheroine subgenre in Japan.
 
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Here's my two Pokemon what ifs:
- What if Ash Ketchum had won the indigo league?
- What if Team Rocket Left the Pokemon Anime?
Unless there were behind-the-scenes decisions involving those possible events involving narrow boardroom votes, I'd say those belong better in Fandom AH.
 
Ishikawa Ken either lives long enough to finish Getter Robo Ahc, or else bequeathes his notes to his mentor Nagai Go, who finishes them in his stead. This then forms the basis for an Anime by Bee Media, becoming an hour long block with Mazinger Edition Z: The Impact! How will this change things like Super Robot Wars?
 

Orangecar

Banned
What if Saint Seiya came to America before DBZ? I know its huge in Latin America so it would be interesting to see what would happen if it became the "big shounen" franchise in the States
 
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