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"Spider-Woman is dead..."

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Starring:
  • Sarah-Nicole Robles as Kathryn Buckley / Spider-Woman and Wilma Newman​
  • Brenda Song as Abigail Nyugen​
  • Mae Whitman as Christina Knight-White / Iron Woman​
  • Michael Sinterniklaas as Matthew White
  • Abby Elliot as Cassidy McNeil / The Incredible Hulk
  • Frank Ocean as Rudy Wilson / Spider-Man
  • Eden Sher as Taylor Morrison / Thor
  • Nicholas Hammond as Bruce Silber / Silvermane
  • Michael C. Hall as Reginald Keating / Crossbones
 
Season 2 >>

Over at the Spacebattles forum, there's a running "collaborative narrative" quest about a fictional American version of Doctor Who. These infoboxes were an omake created for its first season (we're currently nearing the end of Season 3).

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The vague POD is that Sydney Newman has a brutal falling out with the BBC and ends up at NET, who are the only American network interested in his undeveloped pitch. Due to a mix of emergent narratives and (as an X-factor) dice rolls, there's a number of oddities from the perspective of OTL. The "grandfatherly" Doctor is an Oppenheimer-like figure played by a young William Shatner (the recruitment roll was low enough that he was the only audition). The Meddling Monk, not the Master, is his most popular evil opposite. The Cybermen are more famous than the Daleks, who themselves are about on par with the Autons — iconic, but not top-tier baddies.
 
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I had a terrible idea for an election system. You like sports playoffs? Well how about election playoffs! Each census division has its own election to send a member to the executive council, and then successive national elections seeded based on the candidate's percentage in the divisional election determine who is the president and chief executive.

George W. Bush is the first wild card president in decades (probably since JFK if we're going by OTL presidents), and Nader is the first third party candidate to win a divisional election and reach the playoffs and executive council since George Wallace won the East South Central division in 1968.

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I made the 1952 playoff, which I've decided is the first year the electoral playoff system was in use since the census divisions were created in 1950 and post-WWII and post-FDR reforms seem like a good enough excuse for the system's creation.

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Here's a very late follow-up to this infobox.

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The 2016 Manchurian presidential election, held on the 12th March 2016, saw incumbent President Yok Mu-ming of the Manchu Party (the main right-wing party in Manchuria, formed in 1975 when Ma Jiyuan introduced the first fraudulent elections in the country) running for election to a second six-year term. Yok had been elected in the wake of the Great Recession hitting Manchuria hard, and his first term had been dominated by a rise in nationalist rhetoric from the Manchurian government combined with closer cooperation with the PRC regimes of Hu Jintao and then Xi Jinping. However, Yok was greatly unpopular with many Manchurians for the perception that he was antagonizing Manchuria's ideological allies like Japan, Korea and Taiwan, and many felt that the country's economic recovery from the Great Recession was being slowed by Yok's pro-China attitude.

The main left-wing party in Manchuria, Vanguard, sought to capitalize on this. It nominated Chai Ling, its leader in the Legislative Yuan and a popular left-wing figure in the Chinese-speaking world ever since her participation in the Tiananmen Square protests in 1989 and subsequent refuge in Manchuria, in its primary process during the autumn of 2015. This choice worked well by undermining Yok's aggressive nationalism by showing his willingness to speak favourably of the authoritarian PRC regime, and gave the party a figure with a recognizably big personality to take on Yok's.

With Chai quickly working up a sizeable lead in the polls, Yok ran an aggressively negative campaign, drawing attention to a documentary where Chai claimed a massacre by the Chinese government would 'make the people of China open their eyes' and expressed support for a violent confrontation. Ironically, this did little more than reaffirm Chai's anti-China credentials. When Yok tried to pivot towards the centre after taking a firmly right-wing track for six years, Chai and Vanguard lambasted him for flip-flopping and accused his more moderate policy proposals of being insincere, easily topping his proposed minimum wage increases and social welfare spending.

When Manchurians went to the polls, Chai became the first woman elected President of Manchuria, winning a landslide majority of almost fifteen points, with only seven prefectures-Dalian, Daqing, Liaoyuan, Mundanjiang, Panjin, Shenyang and Yingkou- voting to re-elect Yok. The Legislative Yuan (elected every three years midway through and concurrent with the Presidential election, akin to the US House or Mexican Chamber of Deputies) returned a less resounding but still strong majority for Vanguard too, giving Chai a healthy base from which to enact her policy agenda.

So far in Chai's term, politics has gotten heated to say the least. She has taken an aggressive stance on China and was vocally supportive of the Hong Kong student protests, with the general rally-round-the-flag effect keeping Vanguard in control of the Legislative Yuan in 2019 (though that was before the protests, her aggressive anti-China stance and that of the party in general has kept it fairly successful and popular) and she cracked down hard on the COVID-19 pandemic, with some success at keeping rates low in Manchuria. Going into the 2022 election, it is widely expected that if Chai runs for re-election she will be tough to beat, especially with the Manchu Party still struggling to regroup after three bruising elections in 2013, 2016 and 2019 leading many of its leading lights to lose their seats.
 
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George Walker Bush is a Texan businessman, politician and military veteran who served as the 18th Chief Executive Officer of the Political Council of State and Business (commonly referred to as "politico"), from 2000 to 2011 Currently a member of the right leaning Christian-Democratic Party of Texas, he previously served as the last General Secretary of the American Union, overseeing the implementation of the Corporatocratic functions of government while not holding any political offices from 1986 until his election to the Shareholder's General Congress in 1989.
A member of the Communist Party until the dissolution of the American Union, Bush's political party affiliation has been the subject of controversy, from his alleged involvement in the smuggling of a nuclear weapon to potentially assassinate General Secretary Richard Nixon to his alleged ties to domestic terrorist organizations. In his own memoirs, Bush notes his apathetic attitudes towards the world around him until his teenage years, being inspired by Communist leader Barry Goldwater's "Virtues of the everyman" televised convention address to that year's politico. From 1969 to 1974 he would enlist in the Federalist Army, being deployed to the 215th Expeditionary Force. He would serve admirably, according to his personal memoirs, though interviews with his superior officers tend to say he was "pisspoor" at his job as a Demolition Officer. Owing to his father's service in the Patriotic Liberation War, and thanks to a general atmosphere of corruption and nepotism within the ranks of the armed forces, he was awarded the War of Patriotic Liberation medallion, and one for the Siege of Waco, despite not being stationed anywhere near the city during the Connally Rebellion of '70.
Upon his completion of his tour of duty, he was discharged from the military's active pool, though he still retained his Brown Card in the event of an attack on the continental USSA. Using his military service, and a few political connections, he was able to arrange the support of LBJ's political faction of hardliners in exchange for Bush campaigning on Johnson's behalf during a contentious time on the politburo. He was elected to the 25th Politburo, being re-elected as a member until 1986.
In 1979, the once popular Barry Goldwater had numerous issues, he alienated the Christian-left wing of the politburo by removing Jerry Fallwell from the Elective Defense Committee. In attempting to shore up support from the moderate-right wing, his attempts at light-weight free market reforms infuriated the hardliners and disastisfied the reformist faction. It was under this amount of pressure that had him comb for a successor that both factions would at least agree on.
Initially, the hardliners put up the staunchly conservative Fritz Hollings, a choice popular with the southern wing of the party, though controversial with the moderates and completely unappealing for the reformist wing by backing segregation in the 60s. As a counter, the reformist faction nominated Frank Church. He lacked the name recognition and was hostile to the increasing amounts of military spending that was proposed by Military Director of the State Affairs Council Curtis LeMay. The Military Director let it be known that Church was an immediate veto, bringing the talks back to square one. Supposedly, then the young Texan then proposes his own name, at least according to his memoirs. In reality, the choice was barked up by George H.W. Bush, who sat as one of the alternating directors of the state affairs council.

After several ballots, Bush's name was agreed to unanimously, and George Bush became the next General Secretary. His work was cut out for him as he began to act more of a reformer, though initially playing to the demands of the hardliner faction at first so as not to alienate and lose his tentative position with a vote of no-confidence. He appointed James Watt as the Foreign Minister, who began a series of "de-escelation" methods with both the Republic of China and the German Empire. He reluctantly allowed the unpopular war in Canada to continue, while entering secret negotiations with Supreme Leader Pierre Trudeau. By 1984 he had worked out a deal, having Watt sign the Treaty of Just and Right Accords. This treaty was popular only externally because it began the withdrawal of the 300,000 combat troops within Canada at the time. Internally ,several members of the politburo were furious, arguing it was "capitulating to the capitalists." Bush began to open the government up with increasingly pro-capitalist moves such as abolishing the Central Price Control Board and the Directory of Food Security and National Safety. He appointed somewhat competent officials that managed to change various things. The General Secretary would forcibly push through sweeping political decisions, such as the right to "bitch about the governments on the internets". However, all this change alienated the Communist party's elite in Roosevelt City.

While he was out of the country during the July Incident, he immediately flew back upon hearing of the hardliner's failure at seizing power, using his power following a purge of the "traitors", he began the lengthy three year "Transition Period", overseeing the placement of pro-reform minded individuals such as John Warner as the acting head of state under the office of "Administrative Chancellor". The abrupt, shock saw numerous implosions of the local economy and decades of increased corruption, fueled by the intertwining of politics and business, and in some cases, making it mandatory, as laid out in the Articles of Incorporation of 1989. Eventually, however, Bush was first elected to the Shareholders General Congress following numerous failed attempts at running in the monthly terms of office. (This would be fixed with an amendment to the Articles in 1990 that altered the makeup of the Oil and Gas Industry's total number of proportional "group" representatives as shareholders.)
Soon after arriving, he was nominated by the poorest members of the Seventh Day Alliance as Minority Stockholder, arguing with Mississippian John Stennis and his replacement Ohioan Jim Rhodes. He was respected for his elegance, while derided for his violent temper and was generally made fun of behind his back owing to Bush's perceived lack of intelligence. In 1994, the Social Christian Democratic Salvation Congress, a military junta with ties to business, ran and won a majority of Shareholder's minds and wallets. Now officially the Majority Shareholder, he proposed minor structural changes to the Articles of Incorporation, managing to streamline the process of identifying illegal immigrants and strengthening the boarder against "devilish" Canadians. He proudly pushed through corporate sponsorship in churches too.

Eventually, in 2000 he was elected as the de-facto head of state, the politico CEO. As a formality, he was ceremoniously elected President by the 538 members of the Electoral College at 2AM on the 19th of January, 2001, with his term starting at 6 in the morning of the 20th and ending at midnight. The President was asked who he wanted his vice president to be to which he replied "Cheney I guess, he'll only be VP for a day. Just try not to put too much thought into it, I'm just a lousy Figurehead, fuck it, he'll be by Vice-lousy Figurehead."

His one day as the 77,332nd President of the United States was rather uneventful, besides asking the political CEO if he could "sign something". Shortly before his term ended, he proudly held up to the one flashing camera a receipt for his dry-cleaning that he signed "George W. Bush, President of the United Whatevers."
 
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VICTORY FOR THE POPULAR PROGRESSIVE SOCIALIST PARTY!
The 2014 Jefferson gubernatorial election occurred on November 4th, 2014. Popular Progressive Socialist Party State Representative Frank Mizutani defeated incumbent Governor Issac Parris and Former Jefferson Attorney General Mortimer Barlow. Governor Parris originally held a large lead over his opponents, but a corruption scandal tanked his campaign.​

Former Attorney General Barlow held the new lead, but a passionate campaign by State Representative Mizutani would cause an upset victory leading to the first PPSP governor since 1954 and the first Asian-American governor of Jefferson.

Mizutani campaigned on subsidies for working class Jeffersonians, higher taxes on the richest 1% of Jeffersonians, the legalization of Cannabis and gay marriage, increased funding of public transportation, and building homes for the increasingly large homeless population of Jefferson. In addition, Barlow was a conservative Republican and was chosen to run against the more conservative Democrat Parris. This caused some of the liberal Republicans and a majority of liberal Democrats to vote for Mizutani. The general rise in support for socialist and liberal political policies in the State of Jefferson began after the 2011 Economic Crash.

Some more conservative news sources in the state claimed that Mizutani was going to destroy the state since his parents had originally come from the Empire of Japan, which had invaded Jefferson in 1941 and briefly held power through the Kashū Provincial State (1941-1942). Mizutani was raised in the Japanese Internment Camps from 1940-1947.
(The origin for this infobox comes from taking the best county results from the 1892 and 1924 Presidential Elections in Oregon and California and results from the 1892, 1912, and 1924 for the other two parties. To get the final total, Oregon is using 2012 Presidential total per county while California is using 2016. The story is just me throwing ideas at the wall.)

It's interesting that this is based on OTL election results, because man does it bear zero resemblance to the OTL 21st century political geography of the region. Humboldt/Mendocino strongly supporting the conservative Republican while Placer and El Dorado Counties go all in for the guy who wants to tax the rich and legalize gay marriage? That's some wild stuff.
 
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George Walker Bush is a Texan businessman, politician and military veteran who served as the 18th Chief Executive Officer of the Political Council of State and Business (commonly referred to as "politico"), from 2000 to 2011 Currently a member of the right leaning Christian-Democratic Party of Texas, he previously served as the last General Secretary of the American Union, overseeing the implementation of the Corporatocratic functions of government while not holding any political offices from 1986 until his election to the Shareholder's General Congress in 1989.
A member of the Communist Party until the dissolution of the American Union, Bush's political party affiliation has been the subject of controversy, from his alleged involvement in the smuggling of a nuclear weapon to potentially assassinate General Secretary Richard Nixon to his alleged ties to domestic terrorist organizations. In his own memoirs, Bush notes his apathetic attitudes towards the world around him until his teenage years, being inspired by Communist leader Barry Goldwater's "Virtues of the everyman" televised convention address to that year's politico. From 1969 to 1974 he would enlist in the Federalist Army, being deployed to the 215th Expeditionary Force. He would serve admirably, according to his personal memoirs, though interviews with his superior officers tend to say he was "pisspoor" at his job as a Demolition Officer. Owing to his father's service in the Patriotic Liberation War, and thanks to a general atmosphere of corruption and nepotism within the ranks of the armed forces, he was awarded the War of Patriotic Liberation medallion, and one for the Siege of Waco, despite not being stationed anywhere near the city during the Connally Rebellion of '70.
Upon his completion of his tour of duty, he was discharged from the military's active pool, though he still retained his Brown Card in the event of an attack on the continental USSA. Using his military service, and a few political connections, he was able to arrange the support of LBJ's political faction of hardliners in exchange for Bush campaigning on Johnson's behalf during a contentious time on the politburo. He was elected to the 25th Politburo, being re-elected as a member until 1986.
In 1979, the once popular Barry Goldwater had numerous issues, he alienated the Christian-left wing of the politburo by removing Jerry Fallwell from the Elective Defense Committee. In attempting to shore up support from the moderate-right wing, his attempts at light-weight free market reforms infuriated the hardliners and disastisfied the reformist faction. It was under this amount of pressure that had him comb for a successor that both factions would at least agree on.
Initially, the hardliners put up the staunchly conservative Fritz Hollings, a choice popular with the southern wing of the party, though controversial with the moderates and completely unappealing for the reformist wing by backing segregation in the 60s. As a counter, the reformist faction nominated Frank Church. He lacked the name recognition and was hostile to the increasing amounts of military spending that was proposed by Military Director of the State Affairs Council Curtis LeMay. The Military Director let it be known that Church was an immediate veto, bringing the talks back to square one. Supposedly, then the young Texan then proposes his own name, at least according to his memoirs. In reality, the choice was barked up by George H.W. Bush, who sat as one of the alternating directors of the state affairs council.

After several ballots, Bush's name was agreed to unanimously, and George Bush became the next General Secretary. His work was cut out for him as he began to act more of a reformer, though initially playing to the demands of the hardliner faction at first so as not to alienate and lose his tentative position with a vote of no-confidence. He appointed James Watt as the Foreign Minister, who began a series of "de-escelation" methods with both the Republic of China and the German Empire. He reluctantly allowed the unpopular war in Canada to continue, while entering secret negotiations with Supreme Leader Pierre Trudeau. By 1984 he had worked out a deal, having Watt sign the Treaty of Just and Right Accords. This treaty was popular only externally because it began the withdrawal of the 300,000 combat troops within Canada at the time. Internally ,several members of the politburo were furious, arguing it was "capitulating to the capitalists." Bush began to open the government up with increasingly pro-capitalist moves such as abolishing the Central Price Control Board and the Directory of Food Security and National Safety. He appointed somewhat competent officials that managed to change various things. The General Secretary would forcibly push through sweeping political decisions, such as the right to "bitch about the governments on the internets". However, all this change alienated the Communist party's elite in Roosevelt City.

While he was out of the country during the July Incident, he immediately flew back upon hearing of the hardliner's failure at seizing power, using his power following a purge of the "traitors", he began the lengthy three year "Transition Period", overseeing the placement of pro-reform minded individuals such as John Warner as the acting head of state under the office of "Administrative Chancellor". The abrupt, shock saw numerous implosions of the local economy and decades of increased corruption, fueled by the intertwining of politics and business, and in some cases, making it mandatory, as laid out in the Articles of Incorporation of 1989. Eventually, however, Bush was first elected to the Shareholders General Congress following numerous failed attempts at running in the monthly terms of office. (This would be fixed with an amendment to the Articles in 1990 that altered the makeup of the Oil and Gas Industry's total number of proportional "group" representatives as shareholders.)
Soon after arriving, he was nominated by the poorest members of the Seventh Day Alliance as Minority Stockholder, arguing with Mississippian John Stennis and his replacement Ohioan Jim Rhodes. He was respected for his elegance, while derided for his violent temper and was generally made fun of behind his back owing to Bush's perceived lack of intelligence. In 1994, the Social Christian Democratic Salvation Congress, a military junta with ties to business, ran and won a majority of Shareholder's minds and wallets. Now officially the Majority Shareholder, he proposed minor structural changes to the Articles of Incorporation, managing to streamline the process of identifying illegal immigrants and strengthening the boarder against "devilish" Canadians. He proudly pushed through corporate sponsorship in churches too.

Eventually, in 2000 he was elected as the de-facto head of state, the politico CEO. As a formality, he was ceremoniously elected President by the 538 members of the Electoral College at 2AM on the 19th of January, 2001, with his term starting at 6 in the morning of the 20th and ending at midnight. The President was asked who he wanted his vice president to be to which he replied "Cheney I guess, he'll only be VP for a day. Just try not to put too much thought into it, I'm just a lousy Figurehead, fuck it, he'll be by Vice-lousy Figurehead."

His one day as the 77,332nd President of the United States was rather uneventful, besides asking the political CEO if he could "sign something". Shortly before his term ended, he proudly held up to the one flashing camera a receipt for his dry-cleaning that he signed "George W. Bush, President of the United Whatevers."

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(a wikibox on a political party that advocates for American loyalism in America in one of my timelines)
The New Loyalist Party was formed after the merger of the American Monarchist League, American Loyalist League and the American Loyalist Front in 1958. During this time of great upheaval in the United American Union when civil unrest was at its peak in regards to the Tim Crow's segregationist laws and the ruling party's advocacy for supporting segregation in the country, the party immediately received a good amount of limelight. It was led first by Jonathan King, an ardent American loyalist from New Jersey. Having loyalist roots all the way till the American Revolution, he revolutionized the modern thinking of American neo-loyalism in the modern era and the 20th and 21st centuries.

During the late 1950s and during the entire decade of the 60s the New Loyalist Party remained a powerful force, many northern governors being openly a part of this party. During the early 70s, the party reached its apex before the Third American People's Movement broke out in 1974 which led to the removal of the Segregationist laws, and led to full democratic rights be given to the black population of the country. That same year Jonathan King retired from politics and was succeeded by Thomas Jackson. Jackson however unlike his predecessor was involved in many scandals which weeded off support for the party and with the country stabilizing through the late 70s and throughout the 80s, the party became ever smaller until it became one of the many minor parties inhabiting the Senate and House of Representatives. Though it still continues till this day and has a good amount seats in many parts of the country.

It has a slightly awkward relations with the United Kingdom itself. The UK remains till this day one of the strongest powers in the world, and even though it is a shadow of itself from the days of Pax Britannica, it remains, on paper at least, a country stronger than America both on economic and military terms, with its navy being the largest navy and the strongest navy on the planet till this day. However, many in the UK shunned the idea of an American return to British rule during the height of American Neo-Loyalism in the 60s and the collective British Kingdom Dominions of Canada, Borealia, Australia, South Africa, and Formosa have all expressed that such an idea would not be prudent. As such, the party also faces the challenge of making the people and governments its wishes to join convinced that such an idea would be prudent.

 
It's interesting that this is based on OTL election results, because man does it bear zero resemblance to the OTL 21st century political geography of the region. Humboldt/Mendocino strongly supporting the conservative Republican while Placer and El Dorado Counties go all in for the guy who wants to tax the rich and legalize gay marriage? That's some wild stuff.
Yeah, since I was using OTL results from early in the 20th century, it resulted in the liberal Republicans (Republicans would be the moderates) and conservative Democrats (Standard conservativism). I had the rough idea that the Progressive Party become a mainstay in American politics, but as a larger minor player, like the NDP in Canada. And since the three third parties that I used were the Popular Party (1892), Progressive Party (1912), and the Socialist Party (1924), it only made sense to merge them into the Popular Progressive Socialist Party, which is loosely based policy wise on the modern progressive movement. The 21st century ITTL is wildly different, but I didn't think much outside of the State of Jefferson.

(I also didn't do any research into the actual voting patterns of the counties, since this is entirely based on voting data from the end of the 19th and start of the 20th century.)
 
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POD: Skip Humphrey defeats Norm Coleman and Jesse Ventura in the 1998 Minnesota gubernatorial election, winning 36.99% against their 34.29% and 28.09% respectively.
 
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POD: Skip Humphrey defeats Norm Coleman and Jesse Ventura in the 1998 Minnesota gubernatorial election, winning 36.99% against their 34.29% and 28.09% respectively.

I know this Wikibox is about Mondale but the POD introduces some interesting questions about Skip Humphrey. First does he serve more than 2 terms? Under MN law you serve as many as you want. If so does he run in 2008 for the Dem nomination? Humphrey was a liberal who supported universal healthcare, environmental protections, enacting campaign finance reform, and was generally a traditional progressive like his father. If he’s a 2-3 term governor, who’s successful and popular he has a shot IMO at winning Iowa due to being from a neighboring Midwest state. Not to mention name recognition from his last name and Humphrey still being popular. Even if he fails he could siphon enough votes away from Obama if he runs that Clinton wins Iowa and Obama is prevented from winning the nomination (as everyone who wins the first three primaries has a pretty good chance at winning the nomination). If he does win I would expect him to do well with his stance of campaign finance reform being popular post 2008 Great Recession. Back to MN I have no clue who wins in 2010 as it was a Republican wave year but Dems do have a Democratic administration that would be reasonably popular IMO. Heck maybe even Jim Oberstar (Representative from the traditionally Democratic Iron range and Arrow Head region, and besides Rick Nolan probably one of the last Dems to represent it), could benefit with him winning re-election in 2010. That would either cement Republican dominance earlier as he dies or keep it in the hands of Dems longer with the added Democrat popularity until 2020. Or it could flip on schedule in 2018. Also Franken’s election would probably be less controversial as the margin wouldn’t be so ridiculously small at 312 votes OTL. The only thing I can see wrong with the wikibox is Mondale due to being VP would be the 2nd Vice President Pro Tempore of the senate. Otherwise it’s a good wikibox! Very original POD.
 
I know this Wikibox is about Mondale but the POD introduces some interesting questions about Skip Humphrey. First does he serve more than 2 terms? Under MN law you serve as many as you want. If so does he run in 2008 for the Dem nomination? Humphrey was a liberal who supported universal healthcare, environmental protections, enacting campaign finance reform, and was generally a traditional progressive like his father. If he’s a 2-3 term governor, who’s successful and popular he has a shot IMO at winning Iowa due to being from a neighboring Midwest state. Not to mention name recognition from his last name and Humphrey still being popular. Even if he fails he could siphon enough votes away from Obama if he runs that Clinton wins Iowa and Obama is prevented from winning the nomination (as everyone who wins the first three primaries has a pretty good chance at winning the nomination). If he does win I would expect him to do well with his stance of campaign finance reform being popular post 2008 Great Recession. Back to MN I have no clue who wins in 2010 as it was a Republican wave year but Dems do have a Democratic administration that would be reasonably popular IMO. Heck maybe even Jim Oberstar (Representative from the traditionally Democratic Iron range and Arrow Head region, and besides Rick Nolan probably one of the last Dems to represent it), could benefit with him winning re-election in 2010. That would either cement Republican dominance earlier as he dies or keep it in the hands of Dems longer with the added Democrat popularity until 2020. Or it could flip on schedule in 2018. Also Franken’s election would probably be less controversial as the margin wouldn’t be so ridiculously small at 312 votes OTL. The only thing I can see wrong with the wikibox is Mondale due to being VP would be the 2nd Vice President Pro Tempore of the senate. Otherwise it’s a good wikibox! Very original POD.
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Mondale.....

That aside, wouldn't there already be butterflies from Humphrey's election over Ventura and Coleman?

If I remember correctly, Ventura claimed he would have appointed Mondale to Wellstone's vacant seat were it not for the political display at the latter's funeral. Would Humphrey had picked Mondale if Wellstone still dies like in otl?

Excellently done HorizonFalling!
 
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Mondale.....

That aside, wouldn't there already be butterflies from Humphrey's election over Ventura and Coleman?

If I remember correctly, Ventura claimed he would have appointed Mondale to Wellstone's vacant seat were it not for the political display at the latter's funeral. Would Humphrey had picked Mondale if Wellstone still dies like in otl?

Excellently done HorizonFalling!

Mondale is a respected former senator and VP so I don’t see why not. If not him maybe Roger Moe (OTL Humphrey’s running mate in 1998). Mondale is moderate and like IOTL had a good chance at winning while winning over progressives. So Mondale would be a good choice and would give Dems a good chance at winning the election with the incumbency, sympathy vote, and Mondale being popular (I mean he did win Minnesota against Reagan’s 49 state landslide). So Mondale would be a plausible and good choice IMO.
 
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