Alternate warships of nations

Blub, blub, blub. Enterprise's bulges were an ex post facto lesson learned.
True enough, mind you giving the Yorktowns alternating machinery as a core part of their design probably would have been possible had the USN been willing to do some creative accounting(although this statement also applies to the New Orleans class)that alone probably would have saved either Hornet or Yorktown if not both of them
 

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True enough, mind you giving the Yorktowns alternating machinery as a core part of their design probably would have been possible had the USN been willing to do some creative accounting(although this statement also applies to the New Orleans class)that alone probably would have saved either Hornet or Yorktown if not both of them

With national survival on the line, creative bookkeeping or just outright cheating would be in defacto, but who will foresee the need for stouter hulls, unit machinery,
and a more robust torpedo cellular defense in 1933? The Sea Lawyers will insist on treaty compliance to keep the spirit of international law alive. That would be more important to them than a 23,000 tonne Yorktown.

So... speed and a tight turning circle and what was done as a TDS to resist a 200 kg torpedo warhead is seen as the best under the conditions prevalent.
 
With national survival on the line, creative bookkeeping or just outright cheating would be in defacto, but who will foresee the need for stouter hulls, unit machinery,
and a more robust torpedo cellular defense in 1933? The Sea Lawyers will insist on treaty compliance to keep the spirit of international law alive. That would be more important to them than a 23,000 tonne Yorktown.

So... speed and a tight turning circle and what was done as a TDS to resist a 200 kg torpedo warhead is seen as the best under the conditions pre iouvalent.
To be fair the Lexingtons were already using creative accounting anyways and it's not like the USN wasn't unaware of the IJN cheating with practically every one of it's new design and rebuilds
 
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To be fair the Lexingtons were already using creative accounting anyways and it's not like the USN wasn't unaware of the IJN cheating with practically every one of it's new design and rebuilds
I think Congress and it's penny pinching were doing a more effective job at limiting the USN then any treaty
 
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My version of a KIng George V with twin 15 inch guns instead of the 14s they had.
 
I thought the 15" were supposed to be in triple durrets, not dual ones?
Quick construction so its modified dual 15 inch turrets of WW1 vintage (Modified in the sense they have more than 20 degrees)
Theoretically more reliable than the Original Quad turrets but its using the Corageous and Glorious guns (More would be produced for the others)
 
Quick construction so its modified dual 15 inch turrets of WW1 vintage (Modified in the sense they have more than 20 degrees)
Theoretically more reliable than the Original Quad turrets but its using the Corageous and Glorious guns (More would be produced for the others)

Why would they change the KGV design for that? And they would not use the old 15"/42 for anything beyond an alt-Vanguard. For the following ships you would see modern 15" guns as was planned for the KGV class, and then in triple turrets. (If it's such an urgent need for more ships they would not order the 14" to begin with since i can only assume 2nd London is gone before it even started)
 
Why would they change the KGV design for that? And they would not use the old 15"/42 for anything beyond an alt-Vanguard. For the following ships you would see modern 15" guns as was planned for the KGV class, and then in triple turrets. (If it's such an urgent need for more ships they would not order the 14" to begin with since i can only assume 2nd London is gone before it even started)
Just was inspired by a book called the Foresight War where the KGV class used the R class battleships guns.
 
I thought the 15" were supposed to be in triple turrets, not dual ones?
Triple 16" was the 'wish list' which quickly got thrown out.
Then twin 16", triple 15", quad 14" and finally the design she ended up with (The 3x quad 14" was too 'top heavy' and they couldn't want for a new design for triple 14" to be worked through).

Or something like that.
 
Just was inspired by a book called the Foresight War where the KGV class used the R class battleships guns.
That's classed informally as the "treaty Vanguards"
Much more likelyhood they'd be constructed in a no LNT AH, Otherwise the brits probably wouldn't risk stripping the R's with war looming
 
Here's another one, in a crazy alternate timeline where the state of Oregon not only returns their museum battleship, but Admiral King decides to take the old ship in hand for a proper rebuild.

original drawing by Darth Panda
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