Well I just like making them live really long periods of time. I mean in Kentucky Fried Politics Harland Sanders lived to be 100. I will start making a couple Presidents where they take office at age 100. I did already make Jon Ossoff President in 2087 at 100 years old in my current politics alternate politicians thread in my sig.
Alternate Politicians - After 1900
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I never saw the Jon Ossoff one. I feel silly now, didn't mean to come across as rude or abrupt!
It's alright. Not at all. Just about to post an alternate Strom Thurmond. Takes office at 98 but close enough.
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Strom Thurmond (1902–2003)
Name: James Strom Thurmond Sr.
Born: December 5, 1902
Died: June 26, 2003 (aged 100)
Political Party:
Democratic (until 1964)
Republican (1964-2003)
Spouse: Jean Crouch (m. 1947; died 1960); Nancy Moore (m. 1968; sep. 1991)Children: Essie (b. 1925), Nancy (b. 1971; died 1993), Strom Jr. (b. 1972), Juliana (b. 1974), Paul (b. 1976)
List of Offices:
Member of the South Carolina Senate from the Edgefield County district (January 10, 1933 - January 14, 1938)
103rd Governor of South Carolina (January 21, 1947 - January 16, 1949)
34th, 42nd, 45th President of the United States (January 20, 1949 - January 20, 1957; March 30, 1981 - January 20, 1989; September 11, 2001 - June 26, 2003)
United States Senator from South Carolina, Class 2 (January 3, 1961 - March 30, 1981; January 3, 1991 - September 11, 2001)
Ranking Member of the Senate Armed Forces Committee (January 3, 1975 - January 3, 1977)
Ranking Member of the Senate Judiciary Committee (January 3, 1977 - January 3, 1981)
Deputy President pro tempore of the United States Senate (January 13, 1978 - December 10, 1980)
President pro tempore of the United States Senate (January 3, 1981 - March 30, 1981; January 3, 1995 - September 11, 2001)
Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee (January 3, 1981 - March 30, 1981)
Chairman of the Senate Armed Forces Committee (January 3, 1995 - January 3, 1999)
J. Edgar Hoover (1895–1972)
Name: John Edgar Hoover
Born: January 1, 1895
Died: May 2, 1972 (aged 77)
Political Party:
Republican
Spouse: Clyde Tolson (disputed)List of Offices:
Assistant Director of the Bureau of Investigation (August 22, 1921 - May 9, 1924)
Director of the Bureau of Investigation (May 10, 1924 - June 30, 1935)
1st Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (May 10, 1924 - January 20, 1949)
60th United States Attorney General (January 21, 1949 - November 1, 1950)
35th President of the United States (November 1, 1950 - May 2, 1972)
Basically New York Governor Thomas E. Dewey wins the 1948 presidential election narrowly over President Harry S. Truman and South Carolina Governor Strom Thurmond. He keeps his deal he made with Hoover and nominates him as his Attorney General. The on November 1 1950 President Dewey, Vice President Warren, and most of the cabinet are assassinated by Puerto Rican nationalists at the Blair House while the White House was undergoing renovations. The 1954 Capitol shooting is moved up four years and Speaker Martin is one of the casualties in Congress. President pro tempore Arthur Vandenberg resigned weeks previous to the attacks due to being diagnosed with cancer. Attorney General J. Edgar Hoover is then sworn in as President prior to the ratification of the 22nd Amendment limiting the President to two terms and rules America with an iron fist for the next 22 years.
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Rooseveltian Dynasty - Part 4: Theodore Roosevelt, Jr.
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Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. (1858-1919)
Name: Theodore Roosevelt, Jr.
Born: October 27, 1858
Died: January 6, 1919
Political Party:
Children: Alice (b. 1884; d. 1980), Theodore III (b. 1887; d. 1944), Kermit (b. 1889; d. 1943), Ethel (b. 1891; d. 1977), Archibald (b. 1894; d. 1979), & Quentin (b. 1897; d. 1985)
List of Offices:
Member of the New York State Assembly from the 21st District (January 1, 1882 - January 1, 1885)
Minority Leader of the New York State Assembly (January 1, 1883 - January 1, 1884)
Commissioner of the United States Civil Service Commission (May 7, 1889 - May 6, 1895)
10th President of the New York City Board of Police Commissioners (May 6, 1895 - April 19, 1897)
5th United States Assistant Secretary of the Navy (April 19, 1897 - May 10, 1898)
33rd United States Governor of New York (January 1, 1899 - January 1, 1905)
27th President of the United States of America (March 4, 1905 - March 4, 1913)
Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. (1858-1919)
Born: October 27, 1858
Died: January 6, 1919
Political Party:
Republican
Spouses: Alice Hathaway Lee (m. 1880; Her Death. 1884) & Edith Kermit Carow (m. 1886)Children: Alice (b. 1884; d. 1980), Theodore III (b. 1887; d. 1944), Kermit (b. 1889; d. 1943), Ethel (b. 1891; d. 1977), Archibald (b. 1894; d. 1979), & Quentin (b. 1897; d. 1985)
List of Offices:
Member of the New York State Assembly from the 21st District (January 1, 1882 - January 1, 1885)
Minority Leader of the New York State Assembly (January 1, 1883 - January 1, 1884)
Commissioner of the United States Civil Service Commission (May 7, 1889 - May 6, 1895)
10th President of the New York City Board of Police Commissioners (May 6, 1895 - April 19, 1897)
5th United States Assistant Secretary of the Navy (April 19, 1897 - May 10, 1898)
33rd United States Governor of New York (January 1, 1899 - January 1, 1905)
27th President of the United States of America (March 4, 1905 - March 4, 1913)
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Rooseveltian Dynasty - Part 5: Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Sr.
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Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Sr. (1882-1947)
Name: Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Sr.
Born: January 30, 1882
Died: April 12, 1947
Political Party:
Children: Anna (b. 1906; d. 1975), James II (b. 1907; d. 1991), Franklin (b. 1909; d. 1909), Elliott (b. 1910; d. 1990), Franklin, Jr. (b. 1914; d. 1988), & John II (b. 1916; d. 1981)
List of Offices:
Member of the New York Senate from the 26th District (January 1, 1911 - January 1, 1915)
21st United States Senator from New York’s Class 3 District (March 4, 1915 - August 26, 1920)
27th Vice President of the United States of America (March 4, 1921 - March 4, 1929)
31st President of the United States of America (March 4, 1933 - October 22, 1945)
Acting Secretary-General of the United Nations (October 24, 1945 - February 2, 1946)
1st Secretary-General of the United Nations (February 2, 1946 - April 12, 1947)
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Sr. (1882-1947)
Born: January 30, 1882
Died: April 12, 1947
Political Party:
Democratic
Spouse: Anna Eleanor Roosevelt (m. 1905)Children: Anna (b. 1906; d. 1975), James II (b. 1907; d. 1991), Franklin (b. 1909; d. 1909), Elliott (b. 1910; d. 1990), Franklin, Jr. (b. 1914; d. 1988), & John II (b. 1916; d. 1981)
List of Offices:
Member of the New York Senate from the 26th District (January 1, 1911 - January 1, 1915)
21st United States Senator from New York’s Class 3 District (March 4, 1915 - August 26, 1920)
27th Vice President of the United States of America (March 4, 1921 - March 4, 1929)
31st President of the United States of America (March 4, 1933 - October 22, 1945)
Acting Secretary-General of the United Nations (October 24, 1945 - February 2, 1946)
1st Secretary-General of the United Nations (February 2, 1946 - April 12, 1947)
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Awesome! FDR follows through on his promise to resign after the end of WWII and becomes the first UN Secretary-General!
Edited this post to be a little more on the implausible side. Since Reagan stays in Illinois his alzheimers is butterflied away and his health is superb. After succeeding to the presidency due to President Dewey's assassination in 1950 by a couple Puerto Ricans Reagan wins re-election in 1952 and 1956 (took office before the ratification of the 22nd Amendment establishing term limits). After leaving office in 1961 as the most popular President since FDR Reagan decides to move to California where he is recruited for a run for Governor in 1962. He, of course, wins the gubernatorial election and goes on to be drafted for another presidential campaign in 1968 after none of the major primary candidates won a majority of delegates at the RNC. Reagan accepts the offer of the Republican nomination and is elected President again. In 1972 Reagan wins re-election in a 50 state landslide, with similar results in the 1984 presidential election. The 1976 election is quite close, as well as 1980, due to the economy but it quickly rebounds and Reagan is once again re-elected with ease. Concerns about his age arise in the late '80s as he is re-elected to an eighth term as President in 1984. In 1988 the GOP believes that no other candidate could the Democrats in the general election so they again nominate Reagan despite his wishes to retire. He eventually is persuaded to accept by his wife (unknown person since idk who he'd marry if he stuck around Illinois instead of Hollywood) and is re-elected. The 1992 presidential election was bitterly close but after the Democrats nominate radical Jerry Brown and Jesse Jackson for President and Vice President respectively Independent candidates Ross Perot takes second place, sapping a lot of Brown's voters. Reagan finally announces that under no circumstances will he accept an eleventh term in 1997 and if nominated he will not run and if elected will not serve. Heading back to California for retirement Reagan witnesses the horrifying rise of Donald Trump in the Republican Party in the 2012 and 2016 presidential elections. In 2016, when Trump is the leading contender for the Republican nomination, Reagan (at 105 years old) pleads with GOP leaders to draft Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, John Kasich, Mitt Romney, or heck, even Jeb Bush during the bitter RNC. Eventually Reagan has enough and announces a final campaign for President in order to stop Trump, who's using his old campaign slogan "Make America Great Again", from reaching the presidency. Surprisingly the GOP leaders don't put up much of a fight with nominating Reagan as the darkest of dark horses. Selecting California Senator and former Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger as his running mate (the Hatch Amendment was passed in 2004 ITTL and he was elected to the Senate in 2010 during the "red wave" and Reagan moved his home state back to Illinois to allow for ballot access in California) Reagan coasted through the election unsurprisingly (surprising in of itself) as the Democrats were split by the Independent candidacy of Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, who claimed to have had the Democratic nomination stolen from him. Reagan, despite being 105 years old, was sworn in as President for a final eleventh (tenth elected) term and remarkably leaves office four years later at the edge of death's door at age 109, dying in June 2021 at age 110.
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Honestly, it's a tossup between President for life Hoover and Post-9/11 President Thurmond for which is a worse country to live in...
Hmm, well on one hand Hoover's probably gonna be succeeded by Nixon who's most likely going to continue his practices until his death in 1994 and on the other is a practically senile 100 year old pro-segregationist during the onset of the War on Terror, though he does die in the summer of '03 so he's not around as long as Hoover. I would personally pick Thurmond out of those two options. Either way they both would be dead by the time I'm born in 2004, though a President Thurmond would make for an interesting staple in American history textbooks and politics courses. Perhaps presidential succession would be considered a lot more in politics today and more qualified people would be next in line.
Question: I'm genuinely curious, how does one become President three times? I've only been taught that one can be President 8 years at once or 4 years twice.
Name: George Dewey
Date of Birth: December 26, 1837
Date of Death: January 16, 1917 (age 79)
Political Party: Democratic
List of Offices Held:
Admiral of the Navy (March 3, 1899 - March 4, 1901)
Vice President of the United States (March 4, 1901 - September 14, 1901)
President of the United States (September 14, 1901 - March 4, 1905 and March 4, 1913 - January 16, 1917)
Dewey's endorsement of President McKinley in the 1900 election causes McKinley to choose him as his new running mate in the election, despite them being from different political parties, and they surprisingly end up winning. After McKinley is assassinated like OTL, Dewey becomes president, but loses the 1904 election to Senator Charles Fairbanks. Dewey makes a surprise comeback in 1913 after Fairbanks' 2-term presidency, but ends up dying in office shortly winning re-election in 1916.
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Rooseveltian Dynasty - Part 6a: Quentin Roosevelt, Sr.
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Quentin Roosevelt, Sr. (1897-1986)
Name: Quentin Roosevelt, Sr.
Born: November 19, 1897
Died: July 14, 1985
Political Party:
Children: Pamela (b. 1921; d. 2013), Whitney (b. 1923; d. 1999), Flora (b. 1924; d. 2018), & Quentin, Jr. (b. 1926; d. 2014)
List of Offices:
Member of the New York State Assembly from the 21st District (January 1, 1925 - January 1, 1929)
Minority Leader of the New York State Assembly (January 1, 1926 - January 1, 1927)
43rd United States Governor of New York (January 1, 1929 - January 1, 1937)
42nd Member of the United States House of Representatives from New York’s 17th District (January 3, 1937 - January 3, 1941)
31st Member of the United States Senate from New York’s Class 1 District (January 3, 1941 - November 29, 1947)
Acting Minority Leader of the United States Senate (February 25, 1944 - January 3, 1945)
5th Minority Leader of the United States Senate (January 3, 1945 - January 3, 1947)
5th Majority Leader of the United States Senate (January 3, 1947 - November 29, 1947)
33rd President of the United States of America (January 20, 1949 - January 20, 1957)
Quentin Roosevelt, Sr. (1897-1986)
Born: November 19, 1897
Died: July 14, 1985
Political Party:
Republican
Spouse: Flora Payne Whitney (m. 1919)Children: Pamela (b. 1921; d. 2013), Whitney (b. 1923; d. 1999), Flora (b. 1924; d. 2018), & Quentin, Jr. (b. 1926; d. 2014)
List of Offices:
Member of the New York State Assembly from the 21st District (January 1, 1925 - January 1, 1929)
Minority Leader of the New York State Assembly (January 1, 1926 - January 1, 1927)
43rd United States Governor of New York (January 1, 1929 - January 1, 1937)
42nd Member of the United States House of Representatives from New York’s 17th District (January 3, 1937 - January 3, 1941)
31st Member of the United States Senate from New York’s Class 1 District (January 3, 1941 - November 29, 1947)
Acting Minority Leader of the United States Senate (February 25, 1944 - January 3, 1945)
5th Minority Leader of the United States Senate (January 3, 1945 - January 3, 1947)
5th Majority Leader of the United States Senate (January 3, 1947 - November 29, 1947)
33rd President of the United States of America (January 20, 1949 - January 20, 1957)
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Name: Hunter Stockton Thompson
Date of Birth: July 18, 1937
Date of Death: February 20, 2006 (age 68)
Political Party: Democratic
List of Offices Held:
Vice President of the United States (January 20, 1973 - September 5, 1975)
President of the United States (September 5, 1975 - January 20, 1981 and January 20, 2005 - February 20, 2006)
Senator from Colorado (January 3, 1985 - December 22, 2004)
Hunter S. Thompson's well-known support of Senator George McGovern causes McGovern to ultimately choose him as his running mate in the 1972 Democratic National Convention - which is put off by a week or so ITTL so that it doesn't happen until after Thompson's 35th birthday passes, making him eligible for being chosen as a result. Nixon's Watergate scandal is also discovered earlier ITTL, leading to massive outcry, so Nixon ends up losing re-election to McGovern. Sadly, McGovern is assassinated by a member of the Manson Family while visiting San Francisco in 1975, so Thompson becomes the youngest president in the nation's history at age 38, and vows "instant justice" on McGovern's assassins. He picks Senator Thomas Eagleton, whose depression doesn’t get exposed during the ‘72 election ITTL, as his VP due to President McGovern formerly having an eye on him in the ‘72 election. However, despite being elected president in his own terms in '76, he loses re-election in 1980 to Ronald Reagan.
Afterwards, Thompson lays low for a few years before deciding to run for Senator of Colorado, defeating Republican incumbent William L. Armstrong in the 1984 senate election. He serves as Senator for nearly 20 years, when he decides to run again in the 2004 election for the sheer heck of it, defeating incumbent president George W. Bush in a very shocking upset, with his close friend Senator John Kerry serving as his VP (since the 22nd amendment allows presidents to be elected twice, and Thompson was only elected once back in 1976, he is eligible for re-election). However, his history of alcohol and cocaine abuse, as well as his record of depression and mental issues, eventually get exposed while he’s in office and begin to heavily rock his second term, plaguing him with many scandals as well as eventual dropping popularity. A year later than OTL, President Thompson, suffering from a particularly heavy episode of depression, decides that he has had enough of all the drama and makes an emergency TV broadcast across the entire country, announcing his resignation from office, effective immediately, and declaring that he is “signing off” for good. Nobody knows he's hiding a gun in his lap until the deed's already done. VP Kerry is eventually sworn in the next morning as the 45th president.
Afterwards, Thompson lays low for a few years before deciding to run for Senator of Colorado, defeating Republican incumbent William L. Armstrong in the 1984 senate election. He serves as Senator for nearly 20 years, when he decides to run again in the 2004 election for the sheer heck of it, defeating incumbent president George W. Bush in a very shocking upset, with his close friend Senator John Kerry serving as his VP (since the 22nd amendment allows presidents to be elected twice, and Thompson was only elected once back in 1976, he is eligible for re-election). However, his history of alcohol and cocaine abuse, as well as his record of depression and mental issues, eventually get exposed while he’s in office and begin to heavily rock his second term, plaguing him with many scandals as well as eventual dropping popularity. A year later than OTL, President Thompson, suffering from a particularly heavy episode of depression, decides that he has had enough of all the drama and makes an emergency TV broadcast across the entire country, announcing his resignation from office, effective immediately, and declaring that he is “signing off” for good. Nobody knows he's hiding a gun in his lap until the deed's already done. VP Kerry is eventually sworn in the next morning as the 45th president.
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Well that's cause of the 22nd Amendment ratified in 1951. Any President before then was eligible to run for and serve however long they want. Thurmond though had no desire to return to the presidency after he left it in 1957. But he is elected to the Senate in 1960 and becomes President pro tempore in 1981 when the President, Vice President, and Speaker of the House are killed propelling him into the presidency again. Similar events occur on 9/11 making him President until his death at age 100.
Rooseveltian Dynasty - Part 7: Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jr.
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Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jr. (1914-1988)
Name: Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jr.
Born: August 17, 1914
Died: August 17, 1988
Political Party:
Children: Franklin III (b. 1938), Christopher (b. 1941), Nancy (b. 1952), Laura (b. 1959), & John (b. 1977)
List of Offices:
49th Member of the United States House of Representatives from New York’s 20th District (May 17, 1949 - January 3, 1955)
47th United States Governor of New York (January 1, 1955 - January 20, 1957)
33rd Vice President of the United States of America (January 20, 1957 - November 22, 1963)
35th President of the United States of America (November 22, 1963 - January 20, 1973)
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jr. (1914-1988)
Born: August 17, 1914
Died: August 17, 1988
Political Party:
Democratic (Until 1949; 1951 - 1988)
Liberal (1949 - 1951)
Spouses: Ethel du Pont (m. 1937; div. 1949), Suzanne Perrin (m. 1949; div. 1970), Felica Sarnoff (m. 1970; div. 1976), Patricia Oakes (m. 1977; div. 1981), & Linda Weicker (m. 1984)Children: Franklin III (b. 1938), Christopher (b. 1941), Nancy (b. 1952), Laura (b. 1959), & John (b. 1977)
List of Offices:
49th Member of the United States House of Representatives from New York’s 20th District (May 17, 1949 - January 3, 1955)
47th United States Governor of New York (January 1, 1955 - January 20, 1957)
33rd Vice President of the United States of America (January 20, 1957 - November 22, 1963)
35th President of the United States of America (November 22, 1963 - January 20, 1973)
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Here's a follow up to my President Jim Florio post.
John Herschel Glenn, Jr. (1921-2016)
Name: John Glenn
Born: July 18, 1921
Died: December 8, 2016
Political Party: Democratic
Spouse: Annie Castor (m. 1943-2016)
Children: John David (1945-) and Carolyn Ann (1947-)
LIST OF OFFICES HELD
U.S. Senator from Ohio (December 24, 1974 - January 20, 1989)
Vice President of the United States (January 20, 1989 - January 20, 1997)
John Herschel Glenn, Jr. (1921-2016)
Name: John Glenn
Born: July 18, 1921
Died: December 8, 2016
Political Party: Democratic
Spouse: Annie Castor (m. 1943-2016)
Children: John David (1945-) and Carolyn Ann (1947-)
LIST OF OFFICES HELD
U.S. Senator from Ohio (December 24, 1974 - January 20, 1989)
Vice President of the United States (January 20, 1989 - January 20, 1997)
Rooseveltian Dynasty - Part 8: William Roosevelt
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William Roosevelt (1919-2000)
Name: William Roosevelt
Born: November 4, 1919
Died: December 21, 2000
Political Party:
Children: Alexandra (b. 1944), Susan (b. 1945), Anna (b. 1946)
List of Offices:
25th Member of the United States Senate from New York’s Class 3 District (January 3, 1951 - January 20, 1973)
8th United States Senate Minority Whip (January 3, 1957 - January 3, 1959)
11th United States Senate Minority Leader (January 3, 1959 - January 3, 1973)
36th President of the United States of America (January 20, 1973 - January 20, 1981)
3rd United States Ambassador to the People’s Republic of China (November 19, 1985 - April 23, 1989)
William Roosevelt (1919-2000)
Born: November 4, 1919
Died: December 21, 2000
Political Party:
Republican
Spouse: Frances Webb (m. 1944; d. 1995)Children: Alexandra (b. 1944), Susan (b. 1945), Anna (b. 1946)
List of Offices:
25th Member of the United States Senate from New York’s Class 3 District (January 3, 1951 - January 20, 1973)
8th United States Senate Minority Whip (January 3, 1957 - January 3, 1959)
11th United States Senate Minority Leader (January 3, 1959 - January 3, 1973)
36th President of the United States of America (January 20, 1973 - January 20, 1981)
3rd United States Ambassador to the People’s Republic of China (November 19, 1985 - April 23, 1989)