Alternate Names for OTL countries
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Belarus -> Ruthenia
Czech Republic -> Bohemia (this probably won't work since "Bohemia" makes up 2/3 of C.R land, the other third being Moravia)
South Sudan -> Equatoria
Spain -> Hispania
Zimbabwe -> Zambezia
Bangladesh -> Bengal
Thailand -> Siam
Czech Republic -> Bohemia (this probably won't work since "Bohemia" makes up 2/3 of C.R land, the other third being Moravia)
South Sudan -> Equatoria
Spain -> Hispania
Zimbabwe -> Zambezia
Bangladesh -> Bengal
Thailand -> Siam
This not make much sense. Lithuanians and Belarussians are different peoples and languages. And so is Latvians and Livonians too. Yes them have much common history but still. Same if alternate name for Finland would be Sweden or France would be alternate name of England.
In fact it makes. Czech and Bohemia have same word on Czech language.
Driftless
Donor
* Norway = Thule
Iceland - flip the concept from glaciers to the land of volcanoes, one of which was erupting when the first Norse landed there.
* Iceland = Surtrland (land of the Fire Giant Surtr)
If the Norse remained in North America long enough for the place names to remain connected to that culture:
* North America = Vinland
* Ireland = Hibernia
Iceland - flip the concept from glaciers to the land of volcanoes, one of which was erupting when the first Norse landed there.
* Iceland = Surtrland (land of the Fire Giant Surtr)
If the Norse remained in North America long enough for the place names to remain connected to that culture:
* North America = Vinland
* Ireland = Hibernia
Could South Africa, with the right PoDs or butterflies, wind up being called Orangia, using a variant of the Prinzflag?
Also, Iceland <> Greenland, natch.
Also, Iceland <> Greenland, natch.
Oddly enough South Africa could have been Antarctica (which literally means opposite of the north). There were other areas that were called Antarctica in the Southern Hemisphere. Or it could have been called Australis (short for Terra Australis or Land to the South-what OTL's Australia is named after).
When Tasman found New Zealand he called it Staten Landt (State's Lands). If that name had stuck Cook would probably have anglicized it to Statesland.
Brazil could have been Amazonia (after the river), or Veracruz (an early name).
Azerbaijan could have been Albania (which was an old name for it).
Montenegro could have been Zeta (after a local river).
Being the birthplace of Simon Bolivar Venezuela could have named itself Bolivia.
When Tasman found New Zealand he called it Staten Landt (State's Lands). If that name had stuck Cook would probably have anglicized it to Statesland.
Brazil could have been Amazonia (after the river), or Veracruz (an early name).
Azerbaijan could have been Albania (which was an old name for it).
Montenegro could have been Zeta (after a local river).
Being the birthplace of Simon Bolivar Venezuela could have named itself Bolivia.
Alcsentre Calanice
Gone Fishin'
Northern Italy was called Cisalpine republic during the French revolution.
That's pretty much OTL. Greece is formally called the Hellenic Republic - Ελληνική Δημοκρατία (Ellīnikī́ Dīmokratía) and Japan Nippon-koku or Nihon-koku (State of Japan). A good alternative name for Japan might be Yamato and Greece might have chosen to call itself Βασίλειον τῆς Ῥωμαίων (Vasílion tis Rhōmaiōn) - (the) Kingdom of Rome / Rhomea and later, after abolishing the monarchy Δημοκρατία τῆς Ῥωμαίων (Dīmokratía tis Rhōmaiōn) - Republic of Rome / Rhomea, or simply Ῥωμανία - (Romania), reviving the idea of the Byzantine Empire instead of Ancient Greece.
Alcsentre Calanice
Gone Fishin'
If they do this, they will have an eternal conflict with Romania, like the cultural war with Macedonia.
Also, Italian fascists will not like this.
Um, no.
Livonia is a part of Latvia, so it would be a case of pars pro toto, like the use of Holland for the Netherlands.
And for Belarus => Lithuania, please read the article Litvin, it is too complex to summarize here. One excerpt:
Yeah, it's not entirely clear to me if this thread is about us having different English names for these countries, or if it's about them having different names in their own languages. The latter takes more creativity than the former.
Either one is fine. If you find a good name in either English or the native language, feel free to post it. The point of the thread is to find good alternate names.
Afghanistan: Pashtunistan (after the largest ethnic group)
Belize: Soyte (Spanish transcription of the native name for a local river).
Anartica: Inanis (from Terra Inanis or empty land, never a proposed name but it would fit).
If Zanzibar was independent then Tanzania would be Tanganyika.
Nigeria: Quorria (Quorra was the European name of the lower part of the Niger River; they thought it was a separate river until the 1800s).
Belize: Soyte (Spanish transcription of the native name for a local river).
Anartica: Inanis (from Terra Inanis or empty land, never a proposed name but it would fit).
If Zanzibar was independent then Tanzania would be Tanganyika.
Nigeria: Quorria (Quorra was the European name of the lower part of the Niger River; they thought it was a separate river until the 1800s).
The USA considered 'North America' and 'United Provinces' briefly during the beginning of the ARW as they shifted from colonies; George Washington even calls the nation 'the United Provinces of North America' in a letter from the Siege of Boston.
Sounds nice! but then we South American would have no other denonym for you than ''Americanos''!
I'll throw my lot here... you always can have an ''Assyria'' on OTL North Iraq and Syria...
as for Argentina, La Plata is the correct form... as in United Provinces of the Plate River (Provincias Unidas del Rio de la Plata)... then again, IOTL that is one of the official names of Argentina IIRC...
Will Kürlich Kerl
Banned
Germany --> Dutchland
Netherlands --> also Dutchland, depending on the circumstances
Both of these stem from the fact that before the 19th centuries the Dutch were called the "Low Dutch", the Germans were called the "High Dutch". Plus, in Dutch Germany is called "Duitsland" and in German it is called "Deutschland".
Czech Republic --> Bohemia
Was the former name of the lands roughly bounded by the present-day Czech Republic before it was incorporated into Hapsburg lands.
With an alternate migrations in the 5th-10th centuries, you could potentially get something like this:
Poland --> Magyaria
Greece --> Serbia
Serbia --> Russia
Tunisia/Algeria/Morocco --> Vandalia
Turkey --> Rhomania
England --> Jutland (or Sexland)
and etc...
Netherlands --> also Dutchland, depending on the circumstances
Both of these stem from the fact that before the 19th centuries the Dutch were called the "Low Dutch", the Germans were called the "High Dutch". Plus, in Dutch Germany is called "Duitsland" and in German it is called "Deutschland".
Czech Republic --> Bohemia
Was the former name of the lands roughly bounded by the present-day Czech Republic before it was incorporated into Hapsburg lands.
With an alternate migrations in the 5th-10th centuries, you could potentially get something like this:
Poland --> Magyaria
Greece --> Serbia
Serbia --> Russia
Tunisia/Algeria/Morocco --> Vandalia
Turkey --> Rhomania
England --> Jutland (or Sexland)
and etc...
Sounds nice! but then we South American would have no other denonym for you than ''Americanos''!
I'll throw my lot here... you always can have an ''Assyria'' on OTL North Iraq and Syria...
as for Argentina, La Plata is the correct form... as in United Provinces of the Plate River (Provincias Unidas del Rio de la Plata)... then again, IOTL that is one of the official names of Argentina IIRC...
On the UPNA, yes.
I actually like the UP of la Plata/South America. I always thought it fun and interesting you had two great Unions in the Americas - one of States in the north, one of Provinces in the south.