AHC: Form alternate/new ethnic groups of the world
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I assume this language is a sort of simplified or Creole Danish that develops from the pidgin originally spoken between the colonists of different nationalities and the original inhabitants. Different versions or dialects spoken in the Andamans and the Nicobar Islands?
The language has been influenced from the languages of the colonists, the indiginous languages and the regional languages(cultural contact).
White Sea Norwegians/Scandinavian Bjarmalanders
Languages: Bjarmian, Russian, Russenorsk, White Sea Danish
Ancestry: Norwegian, Danes, Kven, Russian, Forest Finns, Dutch, Estlanders, Swedish
Religion: Lutheran, irreligious, Bjarmian Orthodoxy
Culture: Original fishermen, sailors, forest workers, pelt hunters, farmers and merchants today most White Sea Norwegian live in urban areas and work in either industry or service. Their lives are quite similar to most people in post-Soviet republics, except they tend to be better off thanks to greater economic growth.
Population centers: The Republic of Bjarmaland, Siberia, Northern Kazakhstan, St. Petersburg, Norway, Finland, Denmark, Estland
Population. 2-3 million, Bjarmaland ca 1,300,000, Siberia 200,000, Northern Kazakhstan, 150,000, diaspora population unknown, but believed to go from half a million to one and a half.
History: While the myths of Bjarmaland goes back to the Vikings, the modern White Sea Norwegians only really came into being after 1772, where Catherine the Great opened the White Sea up to Danish-Norwegian settlement in hope of develop the region. Even after the dissolution of the Danish-Norwegian union the region was kept open for Norwegian settlement, and in the 19th century Scandinavians became a majority in the White Sea region, the close relationship between the royal house of Denmark and the imperial house of Russia, resulted in their population being well treated. But with Russian Revolution the White Sea population was cut off from their Scandinavian brethren. But USSR establish a independent SSR for the White Sea Norwegian original called the Scandinavian-Bjarmian SSR, it changed name to the SSR of Bjarmaland after WWII, and the Karelian SSR was absorbed as a internal ASSR. After the fall of the USSR Bjarmaland got it independence and thanks to its connections to Scandinavia saw massive investments and developing aid. By modern day Bjarmaland are a EU member. The White Sea Population of Siberia and Kazakhstan on the other hand, who are mostly 19th century settlers of the region, as the people deported under Communism have mostly assimilated into local Russian communities, live mostly in farming communities and their isolation means they have uphold conservative attitude and religious views and have a high birth rate.
Language of the White Sea Norwegians:
Bjarmian are a koine dialect of Norwegian and Danish dialect, it’s mostly related to West and North Norwegian dialects.
Russenorsk are a Norwegian-Russian creole language, it’s widely spoken among isolated rural communities of both White Sea Norwegian and Pomors.
Russian have historically been widely spoken by the White Sea Norwegian, it’s in decline.
White Sea Danish was historically spoken by the White Sea Norwegian elite and clergy (who still widely use it), the Russian Revolution meant it fell in decline, but it got renaissance again later, as it became the language used in higher education. It’s in general seen as a prestige dialect even today, and are used in Bjarmian television and radio.
Both Bjarmian, White Sea Danish and Russenorsk use the so-called Rigsmaal standard when writing, it’s a conservative standardization based on the written standards of Denmark and Norway before the Russian Revolution, it do have introduced the modern Danish-Norwegian alphabet. Its closest to the Danish written standard.
Languages: Bjarmian, Russian, Russenorsk, White Sea Danish
Ancestry: Norwegian, Danes, Kven, Russian, Forest Finns, Dutch, Estlanders, Swedish
Religion: Lutheran, irreligious, Bjarmian Orthodoxy
Culture: Original fishermen, sailors, forest workers, pelt hunters, farmers and merchants today most White Sea Norwegian live in urban areas and work in either industry or service. Their lives are quite similar to most people in post-Soviet republics, except they tend to be better off thanks to greater economic growth.
Population centers: The Republic of Bjarmaland, Siberia, Northern Kazakhstan, St. Petersburg, Norway, Finland, Denmark, Estland
Population. 2-3 million, Bjarmaland ca 1,300,000, Siberia 200,000, Northern Kazakhstan, 150,000, diaspora population unknown, but believed to go from half a million to one and a half.
History: While the myths of Bjarmaland goes back to the Vikings, the modern White Sea Norwegians only really came into being after 1772, where Catherine the Great opened the White Sea up to Danish-Norwegian settlement in hope of develop the region. Even after the dissolution of the Danish-Norwegian union the region was kept open for Norwegian settlement, and in the 19th century Scandinavians became a majority in the White Sea region, the close relationship between the royal house of Denmark and the imperial house of Russia, resulted in their population being well treated. But with Russian Revolution the White Sea population was cut off from their Scandinavian brethren. But USSR establish a independent SSR for the White Sea Norwegian original called the Scandinavian-Bjarmian SSR, it changed name to the SSR of Bjarmaland after WWII, and the Karelian SSR was absorbed as a internal ASSR. After the fall of the USSR Bjarmaland got it independence and thanks to its connections to Scandinavia saw massive investments and developing aid. By modern day Bjarmaland are a EU member. The White Sea Population of Siberia and Kazakhstan on the other hand, who are mostly 19th century settlers of the region, as the people deported under Communism have mostly assimilated into local Russian communities, live mostly in farming communities and their isolation means they have uphold conservative attitude and religious views and have a high birth rate.
Language of the White Sea Norwegians:
Bjarmian are a koine dialect of Norwegian and Danish dialect, it’s mostly related to West and North Norwegian dialects.
Russenorsk are a Norwegian-Russian creole language, it’s widely spoken among isolated rural communities of both White Sea Norwegian and Pomors.
Russian have historically been widely spoken by the White Sea Norwegian, it’s in decline.
White Sea Danish was historically spoken by the White Sea Norwegian elite and clergy (who still widely use it), the Russian Revolution meant it fell in decline, but it got renaissance again later, as it became the language used in higher education. It’s in general seen as a prestige dialect even today, and are used in Bjarmian television and radio.
Both Bjarmian, White Sea Danish and Russenorsk use the so-called Rigsmaal standard when writing, it’s a conservative standardization based on the written standards of Denmark and Norway before the Russian Revolution, it do have introduced the modern Danish-Norwegian alphabet. Its closest to the Danish written standard.
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Tanuxians (Tanuques)
Language: Tanuque [an alternate Romance language with an Arab superstrate]
Ancestry: European + MENA
Religion: Imperial Cult [a reformed, organized pagan religion based around the gods of antiquity]
Culture: Originally an Arab people who settled within the boundaries of Rome; they would quickly become assimilated in every sense of the word to Roman language, religion and culture, save for one or two things. They remain proud of their Arab forefathers despite sharing almost nothing in common with modern Arab peoples who populate the Arabian peninsula and East Africa.
Space: Tanuquia [southern Portugal + Andalusia]
It all began in the battle of Immae. A risky gambit ordering the Roman horsemen to break and retreat led to disorder and anarchy in Aurelian's army. The Emperor planned to tire out the Queen's heavier-armored Palmyrene cataphracts but it was his men who ended up paying the consequences. He was trampled in the chaos and it would be his death that temporarily prolonged the Crisis of the Third Century. It would leave an opening for Zenobia to reunite the most of the Empire under her son Vaballathus.
The initial problem was that most Romans were against the idea of an uppity Oriental despot, even one as Romanized and a high pedigree as Vaballathus ruling over them. That required manpower and Zenobia looked on to the untamed Arab tribes in the desert for support. Many happily under one condition: being granted fertile lands in the Roman Empire to settle and lord over. One of the tribes were the Tanukhids, led by their king Flavius Amerius, who led a pro-Vaballathus coalition of Arab peoples into North Africa, defeating Romans and their African clients.
For his deeds, Flavius Amerius was made governor of the newly established province of Tanuxia, created from the charred remains of the southern half of Lusitania and Hispania Baetica. Flavius Amerius and his descendants would loyally serve Rome and the Zenobian dynasty for over three centuries' reign until the final collapse of Rome to barbarian invaders from Germania in the late sixth century.
Language: Tanuque [an alternate Romance language with an Arab superstrate]
Ancestry: European + MENA
Religion: Imperial Cult [a reformed, organized pagan religion based around the gods of antiquity]
Culture: Originally an Arab people who settled within the boundaries of Rome; they would quickly become assimilated in every sense of the word to Roman language, religion and culture, save for one or two things. They remain proud of their Arab forefathers despite sharing almost nothing in common with modern Arab peoples who populate the Arabian peninsula and East Africa.
Space: Tanuquia [southern Portugal + Andalusia]
It all began in the battle of Immae. A risky gambit ordering the Roman horsemen to break and retreat led to disorder and anarchy in Aurelian's army. The Emperor planned to tire out the Queen's heavier-armored Palmyrene cataphracts but it was his men who ended up paying the consequences. He was trampled in the chaos and it would be his death that temporarily prolonged the Crisis of the Third Century. It would leave an opening for Zenobia to reunite the most of the Empire under her son Vaballathus.
The initial problem was that most Romans were against the idea of an uppity Oriental despot, even one as Romanized and a high pedigree as Vaballathus ruling over them. That required manpower and Zenobia looked on to the untamed Arab tribes in the desert for support. Many happily under one condition: being granted fertile lands in the Roman Empire to settle and lord over. One of the tribes were the Tanukhids, led by their king Flavius Amerius, who led a pro-Vaballathus coalition of Arab peoples into North Africa, defeating Romans and their African clients.
For his deeds, Flavius Amerius was made governor of the newly established province of Tanuxia, created from the charred remains of the southern half of Lusitania and Hispania Baetica. Flavius Amerius and his descendants would loyally serve Rome and the Zenobian dynasty for over three centuries' reign until the final collapse of Rome to barbarian invaders from Germania in the late sixth century.
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Karantjany (West Caranthians or Alpine Slaweni)
Language: Karantjansky (a west Slavic language with prominent German loanwords)
Ancestry: Carantanian Slavs that migrated into the western Alps
Religion: Split between Protestant and Catholic, but majority Catholic
Region: Central and Western Alps (OTL parts of Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Tyrol)
Culture: West Slavic with significant German influence. Male traditional dress is more Bavarian than Slavic, cuisine is typically Alpine German (sausages, cheeses). Karintija has a large rural population which is very superstitious, most folktales are of proto-Slavic or local origin. The cities are very developed and modern, with the urban culture being more akin to the rest of Europe.
Not-So-Brief History: The Carinthians from Austria migrated westward through the alps, with numerous tribes settling in the western mountains in the later years of the Ostrogothic kingdom. The Caranthians converted to Catholicism, and the tribal leader Stojmir was recognized as the duke of Caranthia. The Caranthian duchy was a tributary state of the Lombard Kingdom of Italy, and was later conquered by the Franks under Charlemagne. It was an autonomous region within Middle Frankia, and later in the Kingdom of Germany inside the HRE. Carinthia declared independence in 1458, as the empire's authority south of the alps waned. The Caranthians became famed as mercenaries throughout Europe [this isn't just BC of the OTL swiss, though their mountain climate certainly good for making tough people. Slavs, who originally had a strong martial culture were generally regarded as great warriors and often prized as mercs. The proximity of Italy, with its mercenary armies also helps. Swiss Slavs are pretty likely to be mercenaries]. During the reformation, the country had a brief civil war. The war ended in a compromise, allowing the Protestants to practice freely, but not taking church lands, the state effectively continued to be run by Catholics. During the French Revolutionary Wars and Napoleonic Wars, the duchy opposed the french. The french, with the help of the protestant minority, established a short lived sister republic in Carinthia, but quickly lost control of the country, with the duke regaining power. Carinthia remained an independent puppet state during the Napoleonic wars, but turned on Napoleon. Post war, Caranthia retained its independence, being landlocked, it did not attempt to establish colonies. Caranthia was fairly quick to industrialize, being fully industrialized by the mid 1800s. In WWI they sided with the allies, since both Germany and Austria had pretensions to Caranthia lands. Caranthia, seen as "rightfully German" by the Nazis, was invaded in WWII. The small country mounted a strong resistance, aided by the impassable mountains that had won it many wars before. Unfortunately, the duke eventually surrendered to the Germans in an attempt to spare his people, which failed miserably, with many Caranthians sent to concentration camps. A resistance movement existed throughout the war, and eventually won Caranthia its independence as a republic. Caranthia joined the European Union, and later NATO, being the only Slavic country on the western side of the cold war.
Sorry about the long history, this is sort of part of a challenge by @JDF_01 and will probably also be posted in that thread with some edits, I just thought that the alternate ethnicities thread was a good place to do it.
Language: Karantjansky (a west Slavic language with prominent German loanwords)
Ancestry: Carantanian Slavs that migrated into the western Alps
Religion: Split between Protestant and Catholic, but majority Catholic
Region: Central and Western Alps (OTL parts of Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Tyrol)
Culture: West Slavic with significant German influence. Male traditional dress is more Bavarian than Slavic, cuisine is typically Alpine German (sausages, cheeses). Karintija has a large rural population which is very superstitious, most folktales are of proto-Slavic or local origin. The cities are very developed and modern, with the urban culture being more akin to the rest of Europe.
Not-So-Brief History: The Carinthians from Austria migrated westward through the alps, with numerous tribes settling in the western mountains in the later years of the Ostrogothic kingdom. The Caranthians converted to Catholicism, and the tribal leader Stojmir was recognized as the duke of Caranthia. The Caranthian duchy was a tributary state of the Lombard Kingdom of Italy, and was later conquered by the Franks under Charlemagne. It was an autonomous region within Middle Frankia, and later in the Kingdom of Germany inside the HRE. Carinthia declared independence in 1458, as the empire's authority south of the alps waned. The Caranthians became famed as mercenaries throughout Europe [this isn't just BC of the OTL swiss, though their mountain climate certainly good for making tough people. Slavs, who originally had a strong martial culture were generally regarded as great warriors and often prized as mercs. The proximity of Italy, with its mercenary armies also helps. Swiss Slavs are pretty likely to be mercenaries]. During the reformation, the country had a brief civil war. The war ended in a compromise, allowing the Protestants to practice freely, but not taking church lands, the state effectively continued to be run by Catholics. During the French Revolutionary Wars and Napoleonic Wars, the duchy opposed the french. The french, with the help of the protestant minority, established a short lived sister republic in Carinthia, but quickly lost control of the country, with the duke regaining power. Carinthia remained an independent puppet state during the Napoleonic wars, but turned on Napoleon. Post war, Caranthia retained its independence, being landlocked, it did not attempt to establish colonies. Caranthia was fairly quick to industrialize, being fully industrialized by the mid 1800s. In WWI they sided with the allies, since both Germany and Austria had pretensions to Caranthia lands. Caranthia, seen as "rightfully German" by the Nazis, was invaded in WWII. The small country mounted a strong resistance, aided by the impassable mountains that had won it many wars before. Unfortunately, the duke eventually surrendered to the Germans in an attempt to spare his people, which failed miserably, with many Caranthians sent to concentration camps. A resistance movement existed throughout the war, and eventually won Caranthia its independence as a republic. Caranthia joined the European Union, and later NATO, being the only Slavic country on the western side of the cold war.
Sorry about the long history, this is sort of part of a challenge by @JDF_01 and will probably also be posted in that thread with some edits, I just thought that the alternate ethnicities thread was a good place to do it.
Highlanders
POD: British crown evicted Scottish Gaels to southern New Zealand during Highland Clearances
Language: New Zealand Gaelic, English, Scots
Ancestry: Gaels of Scotland, Scottish, English, Irish, Māori
Appearance: Celtic, Northern European
Religion: mainly Presbyterianism, other Christian, non-religious
Region: Majority in OTL Otago, Southland, Fiordland, Stewart Island; minority in Canterbury, West Coast, Wellington, Auckland, rest of NZ
Culture and history: Heavily influenced by traditional Scottish Highland culture — strong farming culture and heavily rural population. Accent in English is very different to the rest of New Zealand with majority speaking Gaelic at home, however numbers decreasing in favour of English. Small independence movement exists but do not receive widespread support among Highlander population. Highlander culture was suppressed during the colonial NZ period with attempts at banning Gaelic from being spoken, however rich Gaelic farmers in 19th and 20th century NZ became leading figures in the Highland cultural movement, leading to autonomy for the New Zealand Highlands (OTL Otago and Southland) in the late-20th century. Along with English, Māori, and Sign Language, New Zealand Gaelic is an official language of New Zealand, being used in schools and businesses across the NZ Highlands.
POD: British crown evicted Scottish Gaels to southern New Zealand during Highland Clearances
Language: New Zealand Gaelic, English, Scots
Ancestry: Gaels of Scotland, Scottish, English, Irish, Māori
Appearance: Celtic, Northern European
Religion: mainly Presbyterianism, other Christian, non-religious
Region: Majority in OTL Otago, Southland, Fiordland, Stewart Island; minority in Canterbury, West Coast, Wellington, Auckland, rest of NZ
Culture and history: Heavily influenced by traditional Scottish Highland culture — strong farming culture and heavily rural population. Accent in English is very different to the rest of New Zealand with majority speaking Gaelic at home, however numbers decreasing in favour of English. Small independence movement exists but do not receive widespread support among Highlander population. Highlander culture was suppressed during the colonial NZ period with attempts at banning Gaelic from being spoken, however rich Gaelic farmers in 19th and 20th century NZ became leading figures in the Highland cultural movement, leading to autonomy for the New Zealand Highlands (OTL Otago and Southland) in the late-20th century. Along with English, Māori, and Sign Language, New Zealand Gaelic is an official language of New Zealand, being used in schools and businesses across the NZ Highlands.
Kleinvenediger/Venezolaner
Language: Amerikaner Deutsch (german heavily influenced by spanish and native languages specially wayuu), Spanish, minorities of polish, czech, and native languages (Wayuu, warao... Etc)
Ancestry: Diverse mainly groups of Germans, Poles, Austrians, Czechs and Spaniards, Heavily mixed in the lowlands and cities (cosmopolitan environments) roughly around 36% of the population, majorly white on the andes and guyanan highlands (57%), isolated communities of poles, spaniards and czechs are common but not the norm... Also an important component of african of either former slaves or refugee ancestry (compromise of luanda which gave refuge to herero and namaqua peoples back in the early 1900's fleeing from genocide) and native peoples (Wayuu, Pemón, Yanomami, Warao... etc)
Religion: Roman catholicism but also irreligion and Protestantism is also present
Culture: Mixed Bavarian german with Spanish being an interesting case in latin america as it is a bilingual country with a founding german culture but with heavy influences from their former spanish overlords
Region: Roughly OTL Venezuela + border regions of brazil and colombia, and most of Essequibo and Trinidad
Originally settled by spaniards by the 1500's the rights of colonization of klein venedig were ceded to the welser family as a mean of repay of debts by Charles I of spain, originally there were incentives to explore these lands driven by the ambition of discovering el dorado but said ambitions died fast as el dorado ended up being a myth... Said ambitions almost end the right of colonization to the welsers but by just dumb luck they remained there, klein venedig developed several areas of her economy specially on the primary sector by the exploitation of cocoa, coffee and sugar plantations, cattle ranching, mining and forestry the first years of the colony under serious management were successful and convinced the spanish crown to extend welser's right intact and actually expanding it over eastern venezuela and the guyanas... Now under safer grounds local administration funded expeditions inside klein venedig to further encourage explorations, discovering guyanan highlands and consolidating knowledge over the andes, said lands having climates favorable to european settlements were used to incentive further migration from europe mainly by germans, austrians and swiss fleeing from violence and poverty and actually helping to stablish the basis for the development of a manufacturing industry centered on leatherworks, carpentry, goldsmithing, and shipbuilding, those were found on the main cities growing prosperous over time and attracting migration from natives and mestizos eventually spreading knowledges and eroding caste differences...
By the end of the 18th century, klein venedig was one of the richest colonies of spain and was constantly being supported by spain by acting as an active base for spain to patrol the caribbean from pirate activities (being prosperous klein venedig was at constant threat by pirates, being the most famous example the raid of neu-nürnberg by the morganeers or muerganos back in the 17th century) this would make "eventful" the region by the 19th century, when the wave of indepentism came to the americas, klein venedig was one of the most loyal places to spain acting as a base for spanish forces to further advance into nueva granada to counterattack Santander's forces this would start a series of events that started as harassing border towns to raids and a full blown war between nueva granada and klein venedig ending their neutrality in the conflict, the war would last long enough into the end of the independentist campaings when it would begin the talks for peace between new granada and klein venedig expanding further out as it had been more successful against the new granadans but their support to the spaniards as shipping supplies, sending expeditionary forces or basing spanish forces inside would be hampered as resources would be needed elsewhere to fend off incursions from new granada into their lands (shipbuilding would result useful in the orinoco and flachlands theater of the war) by the end of the war all of the flachlands (otl llanos) and Goajira would be under control of klein venedig
18th century would result uneventful to klein venedig outside tensions with britain due to their ambitions on the essequibo, but although tense there would be no war between them, one of the most important events would be the construction of Regenbaumstadt (OTL guanare) as the capital but Grünerberg (OTL Caracas) would remain as the biggest economic hub of the country, by the 20th century the most important events would occur on the first half of the century by the signing of the compromise of luanda between Klein-Venedig's prime minister Clemens Gustav von Asch de Castro and Germany's Chancellor Bernhard von Bülow, despite protests from detractors even inside the imperial german army and backed by the British and Portuguese empires said compromise would let any herero or namaqua people to stay inside namibia under a time of 1 years with the condition to eventually be shipped into klein venedig, or face expulsion to bechuanaland, although not many people remained inside namibia, the scalation of violence ended dramatically by 1906 when the compromise was signed; those hereros and namas moved to klein venedig would be registered under a special residence status as refugees with the option of staying and becoming citizens or move elsewhere, although many remained in klein venedig and settled in the flachlands building tonws like Sankt Anton (OTL Ciudad Bolivar) or Araguaneia(OTL Puerto ordáz)... During the WWI Klein venedig remained neutral but it offered stay to any german or austrian citizen without any kind of requisite starting the first wave of modern migrations on the XX century, by the 20's oil was discovered near neu nurnberg starting an oil boom which attracted american and british investors, the south american-british rail company would start operations and build the first railway lines in the country connecting only essencial cities in the northern coastline.
By the Second world war again an open gates policy would be offered this time only to jews fleeing from war, and a tightening in the entrance from germans, further immigration from spain continued due to the spanish civil war, this time the natio would side with the allies and would host the dutch government in exile by fear of attack by bombers while it stayed in britain, the expedition force of 25000 (Black division, 25th division of marine infantry) men into the western front and the lend of oil tankers and important discounts to the americans regarding oil
By the rest of the 20th century klein venedig would experiment a peaceful and prosperous century as it drifted away from oil production into a diversified economy housing 43 million of inhabitants and one of the biggest steel industries and shipbuilding industries in the world (namely in the greater Karoni area and Clemenshafen (OTL Puerto Cabello))
Klein venedig's culture is as most cultures in the continent the result of a heavy intermixing between different cultures, in this case only between native and european cultures, the spaniards influenced the music by introducting harps, guitars and other string instruments that influenced folklorical music like Steptanz (OTL Joropo) and Waltzes (not to be confused with the wiener waltz which is still popular in klein venedig; with artists like Alirio Díaz, Frederik Vollmer or Anton Lauro which are greatest examples of their music being studied in the most influential musical academies in the world due to the difficulty and elegance of such guitar music), there are festivals like Grünberg's musical youth festival or Neu nurnberg's die chinesin feast which conmemorates the miracle of chiquinquirá's lady; many young kleinvenedigers which want to learn music would sign in the national wide orchestra system which teaches around 1 million of childrens to play music in local orchestras many aspiring to join to the Regenbaum Philharmoniker, or neu nurnberg's symphonic orchestra. There are also Pop Festivals like Grano de oro music festival or Grünberg rock. Klein venedig participates in Eurovision song festival in 2017 as the second non EBU member after australia in 2015 reaching 12th place.
As for cuisine corn, potatoes, plantains and beans are main ingredients with dishes like tostons or patacons, arepas are brough by african slaves or traditionally consumed by native peoples, as for european influences the main components are sausages like spanish chorizo, morcilla and chistorra or bavarian ones like weisswurst, bratwurst or bierwurst, being beef and pork main ingredients but also important but not so widely consumed fish... The most emblematic dish of Kleinvenedig would be Fischsalat Which is a dish served with smoked fish (emphasis on sardines, or piranhas depending on the region it comes) with a salad made of onions, potatoes, peas, pineapples, apples and carrots, the fish would be acompanied with a sauce made of garlic, lemon and peppers.
Language: Amerikaner Deutsch (german heavily influenced by spanish and native languages specially wayuu), Spanish, minorities of polish, czech, and native languages (Wayuu, warao... Etc)
Ancestry: Diverse mainly groups of Germans, Poles, Austrians, Czechs and Spaniards, Heavily mixed in the lowlands and cities (cosmopolitan environments) roughly around 36% of the population, majorly white on the andes and guyanan highlands (57%), isolated communities of poles, spaniards and czechs are common but not the norm... Also an important component of african of either former slaves or refugee ancestry (compromise of luanda which gave refuge to herero and namaqua peoples back in the early 1900's fleeing from genocide) and native peoples (Wayuu, Pemón, Yanomami, Warao... etc)
Religion: Roman catholicism but also irreligion and Protestantism is also present
Culture: Mixed Bavarian german with Spanish being an interesting case in latin america as it is a bilingual country with a founding german culture but with heavy influences from their former spanish overlords
Region: Roughly OTL Venezuela + border regions of brazil and colombia, and most of Essequibo and Trinidad
Originally settled by spaniards by the 1500's the rights of colonization of klein venedig were ceded to the welser family as a mean of repay of debts by Charles I of spain, originally there were incentives to explore these lands driven by the ambition of discovering el dorado but said ambitions died fast as el dorado ended up being a myth... Said ambitions almost end the right of colonization to the welsers but by just dumb luck they remained there, klein venedig developed several areas of her economy specially on the primary sector by the exploitation of cocoa, coffee and sugar plantations, cattle ranching, mining and forestry the first years of the colony under serious management were successful and convinced the spanish crown to extend welser's right intact and actually expanding it over eastern venezuela and the guyanas... Now under safer grounds local administration funded expeditions inside klein venedig to further encourage explorations, discovering guyanan highlands and consolidating knowledge over the andes, said lands having climates favorable to european settlements were used to incentive further migration from europe mainly by germans, austrians and swiss fleeing from violence and poverty and actually helping to stablish the basis for the development of a manufacturing industry centered on leatherworks, carpentry, goldsmithing, and shipbuilding, those were found on the main cities growing prosperous over time and attracting migration from natives and mestizos eventually spreading knowledges and eroding caste differences...
By the end of the 18th century, klein venedig was one of the richest colonies of spain and was constantly being supported by spain by acting as an active base for spain to patrol the caribbean from pirate activities (being prosperous klein venedig was at constant threat by pirates, being the most famous example the raid of neu-nürnberg by the morganeers or muerganos back in the 17th century) this would make "eventful" the region by the 19th century, when the wave of indepentism came to the americas, klein venedig was one of the most loyal places to spain acting as a base for spanish forces to further advance into nueva granada to counterattack Santander's forces this would start a series of events that started as harassing border towns to raids and a full blown war between nueva granada and klein venedig ending their neutrality in the conflict, the war would last long enough into the end of the independentist campaings when it would begin the talks for peace between new granada and klein venedig expanding further out as it had been more successful against the new granadans but their support to the spaniards as shipping supplies, sending expeditionary forces or basing spanish forces inside would be hampered as resources would be needed elsewhere to fend off incursions from new granada into their lands (shipbuilding would result useful in the orinoco and flachlands theater of the war) by the end of the war all of the flachlands (otl llanos) and Goajira would be under control of klein venedig
18th century would result uneventful to klein venedig outside tensions with britain due to their ambitions on the essequibo, but although tense there would be no war between them, one of the most important events would be the construction of Regenbaumstadt (OTL guanare) as the capital but Grünerberg (OTL Caracas) would remain as the biggest economic hub of the country, by the 20th century the most important events would occur on the first half of the century by the signing of the compromise of luanda between Klein-Venedig's prime minister Clemens Gustav von Asch de Castro and Germany's Chancellor Bernhard von Bülow, despite protests from detractors even inside the imperial german army and backed by the British and Portuguese empires said compromise would let any herero or namaqua people to stay inside namibia under a time of 1 years with the condition to eventually be shipped into klein venedig, or face expulsion to bechuanaland, although not many people remained inside namibia, the scalation of violence ended dramatically by 1906 when the compromise was signed; those hereros and namas moved to klein venedig would be registered under a special residence status as refugees with the option of staying and becoming citizens or move elsewhere, although many remained in klein venedig and settled in the flachlands building tonws like Sankt Anton (OTL Ciudad Bolivar) or Araguaneia(OTL Puerto ordáz)... During the WWI Klein venedig remained neutral but it offered stay to any german or austrian citizen without any kind of requisite starting the first wave of modern migrations on the XX century, by the 20's oil was discovered near neu nurnberg starting an oil boom which attracted american and british investors, the south american-british rail company would start operations and build the first railway lines in the country connecting only essencial cities in the northern coastline.
By the Second world war again an open gates policy would be offered this time only to jews fleeing from war, and a tightening in the entrance from germans, further immigration from spain continued due to the spanish civil war, this time the natio would side with the allies and would host the dutch government in exile by fear of attack by bombers while it stayed in britain, the expedition force of 25000 (Black division, 25th division of marine infantry) men into the western front and the lend of oil tankers and important discounts to the americans regarding oil
By the rest of the 20th century klein venedig would experiment a peaceful and prosperous century as it drifted away from oil production into a diversified economy housing 43 million of inhabitants and one of the biggest steel industries and shipbuilding industries in the world (namely in the greater Karoni area and Clemenshafen (OTL Puerto Cabello))
Klein venedig's culture is as most cultures in the continent the result of a heavy intermixing between different cultures, in this case only between native and european cultures, the spaniards influenced the music by introducting harps, guitars and other string instruments that influenced folklorical music like Steptanz (OTL Joropo) and Waltzes (not to be confused with the wiener waltz which is still popular in klein venedig; with artists like Alirio Díaz, Frederik Vollmer or Anton Lauro which are greatest examples of their music being studied in the most influential musical academies in the world due to the difficulty and elegance of such guitar music), there are festivals like Grünberg's musical youth festival or Neu nurnberg's die chinesin feast which conmemorates the miracle of chiquinquirá's lady; many young kleinvenedigers which want to learn music would sign in the national wide orchestra system which teaches around 1 million of childrens to play music in local orchestras many aspiring to join to the Regenbaum Philharmoniker, or neu nurnberg's symphonic orchestra. There are also Pop Festivals like Grano de oro music festival or Grünberg rock. Klein venedig participates in Eurovision song festival in 2017 as the second non EBU member after australia in 2015 reaching 12th place.
As for cuisine corn, potatoes, plantains and beans are main ingredients with dishes like tostons or patacons, arepas are brough by african slaves or traditionally consumed by native peoples, as for european influences the main components are sausages like spanish chorizo, morcilla and chistorra or bavarian ones like weisswurst, bratwurst or bierwurst, being beef and pork main ingredients but also important but not so widely consumed fish... The most emblematic dish of Kleinvenedig would be Fischsalat Which is a dish served with smoked fish (emphasis on sardines, or piranhas depending on the region it comes) with a salad made of onions, potatoes, peas, pineapples, apples and carrots, the fish would be acompanied with a sauce made of garlic, lemon and peppers.
I suppose that if various Carribean islands had different overlords, alternate ethnicities could be formed. Allthough this is perhaps a boring scenario?
Do you mean overlords as colonial rulers, or each island having a different native ruler? if is the last it won't be boring, there is material for an intersting scenario based in insular warlordism between different native clans and kingdoms trying to assert control over the rest of the isles or trying to be independent...
Colonial rulers. But if a island get a independant policy it could also develop in a different direction. The absence of settlers/slaves would also make the natives develop into a different group than what the island had OTL.
twovultures
Donor
Not at all! I gave it some thought.
Coptes d'Hispaniole: After slave revolts in the Caribbean ended the French Empire's interest in importing African slaves in the late 18th century, they decided to import indentured servants instead. They found a ready, even willing supply, in Egypt which they had occupied and, in their occupation, caused political chaos. This political chaos led to violence, often directed against minorities who were seen as a 5th column supporting the French. Looking to flee this violence, Coptic Christians signed on to work in the French Caribbean's plantations for periods of 7 years. The death rate was frankly horrific in Hispaniola and Martinique, where yellow fever, malaria, and brutality in their condition of slavery in all but name took its toll. But, enough Egyptians survived and settled in the Caribbean, taking on the role of merchant middlemen in French-controlled areas. As under the Empire the mulatto population started to edge out the white population as landowners, political violence generally occurred in a triangle between white landowners (Grand Blancs), Mulattoes, and Nouveau Libre (black slaves freed after the revolts and often made to work as sharecroppers) the Copts were left alone to accumulate wealth, education, and surreptitiously read censored literature by French Radicals.
Although the Copts were divided themselves politically in many ways, it was ultimately the network of Copt merchants that provided the supplies to the revolutionary armies which allowed them to drive out the french in the late 19th century, and their numbers are counted among the national heroes of the Serene Republic of St. Domingue.
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Grønlanders are a small minority of originally hunter and gatheres,who inhabit parts of the western coast of Greenland. In the late 15th Century the explorer Didrik Pinning and other sailors reported, that their crew not only found the ruins of the lost Norse colony but also made brief contact with Norse-looking people in "Inuit clothes" , who hide behind the rock near the shore in the fjord. Some Islandic and Norwegian scholars saw that as a sign, that the lost colonist had reverted from Christianity and argued for sending an expedition and reintroduce the sheeps to the light again. In the 16th Century an expedition found a dead Norse looking man with a steel-knife in his hands. In the 18th Century Danish explorers not only met Inuits but also more European looking people, who traded with pelts and hunted sea animals. They seemed to have spoken some distant Norse language that originated from Greenlandic Norse language. the languagewas heavely influenced by Inuit vocabulary. Also some Inuit used quite many Norse originated loanwords. The Norse looking tribes were tiny and had intermarried with the Inuit population, still had a distinct identity. Protestant missionaries came to Greenland to introduce the lost Christians to Protestantism. The Grønlanders seem to have been rather shy individuals, they kept oral track of legends from the distant past. Some historians and ethno-linguists claim to have heard stories, that tell of the downfall of the old Norse settlement and the adaption of the new lifestyle. Some claimed that pirates had been responsible for the ultimative downfall of the western settlement and that this was the cause of Grønlanders hiding at the presence of foreign ships. Apperently there is the picture of Christian trinity in the folklore of the people, but nobody can say this for sure. The presence of Norwegian-originated individuals later lead to heavy arguing between Norway and Denmark regarding the possession of Greenland. Today, the remaining Grønlanders live a modern lifestyle, the original language is lost almost entirely, some recordings of older members of the communities from the early decades of the 20th Century exist,though.
ancestry: Norse settlers
religion: Mostly Protestant
appearance: European-look to more Inuit look
culture: Some Grønlanders participate in the preservation of traditional culture. Cooperate with Inuit-groups.
Grønlanders are a small minority of originally hunter and gatheres,who inhabit parts of the western coast of Greenland. In the late 15th Century the explorer Didrik Pinning and other sailors reported, that their crew not only found the ruins of the lost Norse colony but also made brief contact with Norse-looking people in "Inuit clothes" , who hide behind the rock near the shore in the fjord. Some Islandic and Norwegian scholars saw that as a sign, that the lost colonist had reverted from Christianity and argued for sending an expedition and reintroduce the sheeps to the light again. In the 16th Century an expedition found a dead Norse looking man with a steel-knife in his hands. In the 18th Century Danish explorers not only met Inuits but also more European looking people, who traded with pelts and hunted sea animals. They seemed to have spoken some distant Norse language that originated from Greenlandic Norse language. the languagewas heavely influenced by Inuit vocabulary. Also some Inuit used quite many Norse originated loanwords. The Norse looking tribes were tiny and had intermarried with the Inuit population, still had a distinct identity. Protestant missionaries came to Greenland to introduce the lost Christians to Protestantism. The Grønlanders seem to have been rather shy individuals, they kept oral track of legends from the distant past. Some historians and ethno-linguists claim to have heard stories, that tell of the downfall of the old Norse settlement and the adaption of the new lifestyle. Some claimed that pirates had been responsible for the ultimative downfall of the western settlement and that this was the cause of Grønlanders hiding at the presence of foreign ships. Apperently there is the picture of Christian trinity in the folklore of the people, but nobody can say this for sure. The presence of Norwegian-originated individuals later lead to heavy arguing between Norway and Denmark regarding the possession of Greenland. Today, the remaining Grønlanders live a modern lifestyle, the original language is lost almost entirely, some recordings of older members of the communities from the early decades of the 20th Century exist,though.
ancestry: Norse settlers
religion: Mostly Protestant
appearance: European-look to more Inuit look
culture: Some Grønlanders participate in the preservation of traditional culture. Cooperate with Inuit-groups.
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Aravinians (Graeco-Arabians)
Language: Aravinian
Ancestry: Greek, Arab, Persian
Religion: Hellenozoroastrian Syncretism
Culture: Hellenic, Sabaean, Dilmunian, others
Alexander the Great survives, returns home and conquers the Arabian peninsula two years later. Following the conquest, Hellenic and later Persian settlers move to the peninsula, mixing with the local population.
Language: Aravinian
Ancestry: Greek, Arab, Persian
Religion: Hellenozoroastrian Syncretism
Culture: Hellenic, Sabaean, Dilmunian, others
Alexander the Great survives, returns home and conquers the Arabian peninsula two years later. Following the conquest, Hellenic and later Persian settlers move to the peninsula, mixing with the local population.
Keniberians
Language; Keniberian
Religion; Punic polytheism
Culture; Iberian, Phoenician, Berber, Greek
Origin; Barqid governors are left in place after Roman conquest of Iberia.
Language; Keniberian
Religion; Punic polytheism
Culture; Iberian, Phoenician, Berber, Greek
Origin; Barqid governors are left in place after Roman conquest of Iberia.
Albert.Nik
Banned
Revived Tocharians : A Strong British Empire becomes a Good Samaritan and wants to revive the old and extinct ethnicities. It starts first with Indo-European and European ethnicities in general but will get to all others one by one. Tocharians were one of the first. Their Genetic codes were rebuilt and their culture and architecture is being revived. The Empire also hopes that they could get a better foothold by doing so.
Location : Recreated Enclaves inside the British Empire. City states of the Tarim Basin replicated.
Ancestry: Mostly Western and Northern European.
Appearence: European mostly Western and Northern but not limited to.
Language: Tocharian languages,English,Scottish,Welsh
Religion: A mix of Anglican Christianity and Buddhism created by the British Empire.
Mod Note: This was just an experiment kind of post.
Location : Recreated Enclaves inside the British Empire. City states of the Tarim Basin replicated.
Ancestry: Mostly Western and Northern European.
Appearence: European mostly Western and Northern but not limited to.
Language: Tocharian languages,English,Scottish,Welsh
Religion: A mix of Anglican Christianity and Buddhism created by the British Empire.
Mod Note: This was just an experiment kind of post.
Abakayans (El manga Abakayano)
Location: Republic of Abakaya (El Republika Abakayano), the archipelago to the north of Indonesia. Capital: Syuda Sebu (Sebu City). In colonial times known as Philipinas.
Language: Officially called Abakayano, but everybody still refers to it by its old name - Chabakano. In origin this is a Spanish Creole much influenced by various Austronesian languages, chiefly Sebuano and Hiligaynon, but since the mid 19th century it has been 'polished' by writers and nationalists to make it suitable for use in literature and administration. (This 'polishing' has emphasised Austronesian elements and minimised its Spanish base.)
It is spoken as a first language only in the cities of Manila, Samboanga, Davao, Kotabato and (now) Syuda Sebu and their surrounding areas, but thanks to education it is widely understood and spoken as a second language throughout the country. Otherwise there are many regional austronesian languages - Tagalog is merely one of these, though a major one.
Religion: Roman Catholic, with a large Moslem minority.
History: Sebuanos had always played a central role in the national movement, and Leon Kilat was the great hero and martyr of the revolution against Spain. Abakayans never accepted USA taking over from Spain, considering that they had 'stolen' their independence, and there were several risings against US rule. Independence was finally achieved in 1940s and American influence has since been minimised..
Location: Republic of Abakaya (El Republika Abakayano), the archipelago to the north of Indonesia. Capital: Syuda Sebu (Sebu City). In colonial times known as Philipinas.
Language: Officially called Abakayano, but everybody still refers to it by its old name - Chabakano. In origin this is a Spanish Creole much influenced by various Austronesian languages, chiefly Sebuano and Hiligaynon, but since the mid 19th century it has been 'polished' by writers and nationalists to make it suitable for use in literature and administration. (This 'polishing' has emphasised Austronesian elements and minimised its Spanish base.)
It is spoken as a first language only in the cities of Manila, Samboanga, Davao, Kotabato and (now) Syuda Sebu and their surrounding areas, but thanks to education it is widely understood and spoken as a second language throughout the country. Otherwise there are many regional austronesian languages - Tagalog is merely one of these, though a major one.
Religion: Roman Catholic, with a large Moslem minority.
History: Sebuanos had always played a central role in the national movement, and Leon Kilat was the great hero and martyr of the revolution against Spain. Abakayans never accepted USA taking over from Spain, considering that they had 'stolen' their independence, and there were several risings against US rule. Independence was finally achieved in 1940s and American influence has since been minimised..
Arbereshe:
Location: modern Albania, parts of Greece, Montenegro, and Macedonia, plus Dalmatia. A significant diaspora in southern Italy, Friuli and the Veneto
Language: Albanian, with heavy Venetian and Croatian influence and loan words
Religion: Protestant, with significant Roman Catholic and orthodox minorities
Following the collapse of the ottoman Empire the battle of Adrianople, the power vacuum in the Balkans led two powers Venice and Hungary, to compete over the region. Albania had long enjoyed ties to the serene republic, providing her woth mercenaries and recieving trade and military support. With Venetian support the Great general skandeebeg subjugate four is and the Montenegrin principalities, Eventually being proclaimed king of Albania by the pope. During the Reformation Albania followed Hungarys suit in defecting to the Protestant cause, albeit the region remains religiously diverse, and eventually the Albanian kingdom annexed the remaining Venetian territories in Dalmatia during the wars of Italian unification.
Location: modern Albania, parts of Greece, Montenegro, and Macedonia, plus Dalmatia. A significant diaspora in southern Italy, Friuli and the Veneto
Language: Albanian, with heavy Venetian and Croatian influence and loan words
Religion: Protestant, with significant Roman Catholic and orthodox minorities
Following the collapse of the ottoman Empire the battle of Adrianople, the power vacuum in the Balkans led two powers Venice and Hungary, to compete over the region. Albania had long enjoyed ties to the serene republic, providing her woth mercenaries and recieving trade and military support. With Venetian support the Great general skandeebeg subjugate four is and the Montenegrin principalities, Eventually being proclaimed king of Albania by the pope. During the Reformation Albania followed Hungarys suit in defecting to the Protestant cause, albeit the region remains religiously diverse, and eventually the Albanian kingdom annexed the remaining Venetian territories in Dalmatia during the wars of Italian unification.
Albert.Nik
Banned
Graeco-Roman Caucasians : Caucasian and Finno-Ugric peoples join with the Greeks and Romans in the Pontus,Caucasus and the Anatolia. They are now spread all over the Middle East where the Roman Empire existed.
Location: Levant,Anatolia,Armenia,Caucasus,Volga Basin,Ukraine,Egypt and North Africa.
Religion: Roman and Byzantine Catholic
Ancestry: Caucasian,Anatolian,Finno-Ugric and the rest Roman and Greek.
Appearence: Northern,Central,Western European
Languages: Romance Languages,Greek,Caucasian languages,Finno-Ugric languages and some Turkic languages.
Location: Levant,Anatolia,Armenia,Caucasus,Volga Basin,Ukraine,Egypt and North Africa.
Religion: Roman and Byzantine Catholic
Ancestry: Caucasian,Anatolian,Finno-Ugric and the rest Roman and Greek.
Appearence: Northern,Central,Western European
Languages: Romance Languages,Greek,Caucasian languages,Finno-Ugric languages and some Turkic languages.
White Sarawakian/ Anglo-Malays
Language: Sarawakian Malay with heavy english loanwords.
Ancestry: European settlers (Mostly British, Dutch and Italian) whom took the opportunity to migrate to Sarawak under Raja Charles Brooke, and eventually intermarried with Chinese, Indian, Malay, and various Dayaks.
Religion: Typically protestant, Catholic minority.
Culture: Mostly European with broad Asian (mostly Chinese and Malay) influences in cloathing and quisine.
Region: More heavily seen in coastal Sarawak and Sabah.
Language: Sarawakian Malay with heavy english loanwords.
Ancestry: European settlers (Mostly British, Dutch and Italian) whom took the opportunity to migrate to Sarawak under Raja Charles Brooke, and eventually intermarried with Chinese, Indian, Malay, and various Dayaks.
Religion: Typically protestant, Catholic minority.
Culture: Mostly European with broad Asian (mostly Chinese and Malay) influences in cloathing and quisine.
Region: More heavily seen in coastal Sarawak and Sabah.