Bonny Prince Charlie nearly reached London, but was forced to retreat by his generals. What if he had stayed?
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and sent a supporting force of 10,000 Scottish soldiers to support Spanish expansion in the Southern Americas.
and sent his trusted advisor the Earl of Strathmore and Kinghorne to put down a rebellion in the newly annexed state of the Apache.
Can you give me some ideas, i mean, i originally had Bonoparte killed in the French reevolution as a young officer, but i scrapped that.
This is where you need to find out how strong the garrison was, how strong Charles's army is - that sort of stuff.I was out of ideas... oh well, but what if Charlie hadn't turned back?
Catholic Scotland is in control in Britain, so they have an alliance with Catholic Spain
Nope. The chiefs, many of whom actually had military experience made him turn back.Charlie got to Derby, but a double agent made him turn back.
That's true.The king of England waas already packing his bags
He can't take London, it's not at all undefended, but the militia is a joke. Nor can he hold it or secure his position.How does Charles take London? This is at least in part a request for elaboration. Is it really that undefended? Will he be able to hold it? How does he manage to secure his position? The Jacobites aren't overwhelmingly popular in Britain. That doesn't mean he can't succeed, just that this will take some time and energy and good judgment.
London isn't really garrisoned as it too damn big. As for how large the idiots army is, I provide this comment from Lord George Murray:-Elfwine;4359776Th said:is is where you need to find out how strong the garrison was, how strong Charles's army is - that sort of stuff.
He can't take London, it's not at all undefended, but the militia is a joke. Nor can he hold it or secure his position.
London isn't really garrisoned as it too damn big. As for how large the idiots army is, I provide this comment from Lord George Murray:-
“Suppose even the Army march'd on and beat the Duke of Cumberland yett in the Battle they must Lose some men, and they had after that the King's own army consisting of near 7,000 men near London to deal with..........that certainly 4,500 Scots had never thought of putting a King upon the English Throne by themselves....”
Basically due to numbers. The Jacobites couldn't replace lossesWhy not? (on the hold & secure part)
Asking, not arguing.
The population of London at the time was around 800,000 to 900,000.How big is it (London)? "Too damn big" is mighty vague.
It is when you add in all the other "armies" which were floating about England. Cumberland had something in the region of 13,000, "his majesty's army" was about 7,000. then there were the others, Ligonier (16,000), Wade (10,000), Hawley (about the same).And <4,500 vs. 7,000 is not necessarily overwhelming.
It does when you don't have the ability replace your losses (just ask the Germans in Stalingrad).Not that I'm saying Murray was wrong, but "improbable" does not mean "flat out impossible" in war.