Hey, if it ain't broke, why would I try and fix it!Basically, she's being herself. With a somewhat happier ending.
Hey, if it ain't broke, why would I try and fix it!Basically, she's being herself. With a somewhat happier ending.
I mean, true, true.Hey, if it ain't broke, why would I try and fix it!
He is the heir of the second Prince of blood (and nephew of the first)… For a domestic match he is not at all a bad one, specially as sound to be a love match and he is well connected…Georges seems low ranking for Lisabelle but I guess there aren't many options...
Well, yes, she was supposed to go to Lorraine, but she's dug her heels in, and she's half-Tudor, half-Valois. I don't think she's giving in any time soon!Georges seems low ranking for Lisabelle but I guess there aren't many options...
Exactly. Her aunt married Alencon, and Georges *is* the second Prince of the Blood now that his father's dead. I think. I may have miscalculated again.He is the heir of the second Prince of blood (and nephew of the first)… For a domestic match he is not at all a bad one, specially as sound to be a love match and he is well connected…
And there's always the possibility he'll warm up to her as well...It's a love match on Lisabelle's side, certainly...
He is the heir of the second Prince of blood (and nephew of the first)… For a domestic match he is not at all a bad one, specially as sound to be a love match and he is well connected…
It's a love match on Lisabelle's side, certainly...
fair enough, georges isn't the worst match and lisabelle is definitely her mother's daughter sooooWell, yes, she was supposed to go to Lorraine, but she's dug her heels in, and she's half-Tudor, half-Valois. I don't think she's giving in any time soon!
Right…Well, yes, she was supposed to go to Lorraine, but she's dug her heels in, and she's half-Tudor, half-Valois. I don't think she's giving in any time soon!
Exactly. Her aunt married Alencon, and Georges *is* the second Prince of the Blood now that his father's dead. I think. I may have miscalculated again.
I am wondering about the family of Anne’s brother-in-law (aka the Duke of Vendome) they are like OTL or there are differences?It's a love match on Lisabelle's side, certainly...
Yes, because God forbid one of the Valois-Tudor brats have to give in for something like that. Only their icky half Trastamara cousin Mary has to settle for a second son and then die so that some wretched Boleyn woman can become queen instead of her. If course precious baby Lisabelle don't have to go to Lorraine if she don't want to.Well, yes, she was supposed to go to Lorraine, but she's dug her heels in, and she's half-Tudor, half-Valois. I don't think she's giving in any time soon!
I'm sure he will, but at the moment, he's an eighteen-year-old being asked to marry a thirteen-year-old. At least his father was rather more mature when Marguerite sprang the same idea on him..And there's always the possibility he'll warm up to her as well...
Oh, one of them had to be, didn't they!fair enough, georges isn't the worst match and lisabelle is definitely her mother's daughter soooo
OTL, apart from the obvious...Right…
I am wondering about the family of Anne’s brother-in-law (aka the Duke of Vendome) they are like OTL or there are differences?
blue, I know you love Katherine and Mary but I think you’re being a bit harsh… Lisabelle is the youngest and the only one whose opinions are being taken into consideration. I mean, François was given away in marriage since before his conception basically!Yes, because God forbid one of the Valois-Tudor brats have to give in for something like that. Only their icky half Trastamara cousin Mary has to settle for a second son and then die so that some wretched Boleyn woman can become queen instead of her. If course precious baby Lisabelle don't have to go to Lorraine if she don't want to.
Yeah, I know I come of as harsh. But it feels like Mary got dealt the bad card while her cousins got the lucky ones.blue, I know you love Katherine and Mary but I think you’re being a bit harsh… Lisabelle is the youngest and the only one whose opinions are being taken into consideration. I mean, François was given away in marriage since before his conception basically!
Not unless Alexander’s male line died out first.If Louisa gives birth to a son who lives for three or more years would Isabel become Queen by virtue of being the Last Kings Sister?
Indeed. You'd need Sawney, Bobby and Jemmy all to predecease Louise's hypothetical son before Isobel could take the throne.Not unless Alexander’s male line died out first.
As was Louise. Margot was six. Henri was promised to Mary from the age of fifteen months until he died. Jean was married to Bella of Poland and we all know how their marriage ended. Anne is promised to Caterina of Portugal, and Marie Jr to Gustav of Sweden. Charley and little Renee Jr are the only two I haven't found matches for yet.blue, I know you love Katherine and Mary but I think you’re being a bit harsh… Lisabelle is the youngest and the only one whose opinions are being taken into consideration. I mean, François was given away in marriage since before his conception basically!
I understand your point, but I'd still argue that Mary got a better hand than OTL. She got a happier childhood, more time with her mother, and a marriage that, while not perfect, was earlier and better than her OTL match. At least Sawney was fond of her and respected her as best he could. And she got three beautiful children out of it.Yeah, I know I come of as harsh. But it feels like Mary got dealt the bad card while her cousins got the lucky ones.
That happens sometimes in timelines. 🤷🏻♀️ It’s not a moral failing to write a timeline where Catherine and Mary don’t get perfect happily ever afters. But sometimes I read your comments that way. And that could totally be me, but I know some of your comments about how I handled Catherine and Mary on my timeline made me a little bit uncomfortable.Yeah, I know I come of as harsh. But it feels like Mary got dealt the bad card while her cousins got the lucky ones.