Two words: San Andreo.
More words. Stop trying to predict things before it happens. It may play out as you think, it might not
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More words. Stop trying to predict things before it happens. It may play out as you think, it might not
It's why realistically China expects a long cold winter regardless who gets in. Anti-Chinese sentiment will be high. Neither side will go into actual war but a Cold War? Not out of the realm of possibility. It's why China is mending fences with somebody near them.
China expects disaster and that is what they think they will get.
NBS.COM
Friday April 27th, 2018
PASTOR FJORD: "We cannot do business with a Mafia state like China."
Pastor Graham Fjord of the Fjord Ministries has been campaigning with Kansas Governor Peter Gault and been winning over voters with his speech about Chinese President Qian Min, attacking the communist leader as "the worst mass murderer since Adolf Hitler." To quote the Pastor. Many people like Fjord's style and rhetoric. Many people at a Fjord event for Gault in Nebreska agreed with him whole heartedly.
"I think America should stand up to a bully like China." Said Diane Seward of Grand Island. "I voted for Walken but he has done nothing to stand up to a bully like China. We actually got to stand up."
"America and China is through. Communist troops in the Middle East is something Washington should have fought over." Said Frank Yancy another Grand Island native.
At the rally in Lincoln, Fjord told the crowd the following. "Now we may disagree on some things but Governor Gault and I agree that America has been far too nice towards China. We invite them to fancy parties at the White House, talk with their ambassador, and try and work with them." Pastor Fjord slammed his hand on the lectern, "NO! THESE ARE CRIMINALS! They still endorse third trimester abortions and yet Washington maintains diplomatic relations? They talk to CRIMINALS!? These freedom crushing monsters who encroach the Holy Land must be stopped. China is a Mafia run state! And we cannot do business with organized crime! With Gault in the White House we can fight the threat to our nation and our religious beliefs." Pastor Fjord covered in sweat, received a standing ovation from the crowd.
Friday April 27th, 2018
PASTOR FJORD: "We cannot do business with a Mafia state like China."
Pastor Graham Fjord of the Fjord Ministries has been campaigning with Kansas Governor Peter Gault and been winning over voters with his speech about Chinese President Qian Min, attacking the communist leader as "the worst mass murderer since Adolf Hitler." To quote the Pastor. Many people like Fjord's style and rhetoric. Many people at a Fjord event for Gault in Nebreska agreed with him whole heartedly.
"I think America should stand up to a bully like China." Said Diane Seward of Grand Island. "I voted for Walken but he has done nothing to stand up to a bully like China. We actually got to stand up."
"America and China is through. Communist troops in the Middle East is something Washington should have fought over." Said Frank Yancy another Grand Island native.
At the rally in Lincoln, Fjord told the crowd the following. "Now we may disagree on some things but Governor Gault and I agree that America has been far too nice towards China. We invite them to fancy parties at the White House, talk with their ambassador, and try and work with them." Pastor Fjord slammed his hand on the lectern, "NO! THESE ARE CRIMINALS! They still endorse third trimester abortions and yet Washington maintains diplomatic relations? They talk to CRIMINALS!? These freedom crushing monsters who encroach the Holy Land must be stopped. China is a Mafia run state! And we cannot do business with organized crime! With Gault in the White House we can fight the threat to our nation and our religious beliefs." Pastor Fjord covered in sweat, received a standing ovation from the crowd.
San Andreo? So it seems that what is being suggested here is that we can expect a San Andreo kind of crisis for Seaborn? It's kind of contrived, if you ask me. Also I'm not making a prediction; but as things currently stands, Seaborn wouldn't be blamed for not believing he'd win; also this is an opinion or are they welcome on this forum or not?
opinions are welcome, but I can assure you that outcome of this election it's not decided, I agree Seaborn is on the front foot. I can only assure everyone that reads and contributes to this thread, that the outcome could well range from a Seaborn landside to a Republican win, simply nothing is decided yet.
Hamilton weeps.
Obviously the only choice is continuing the Spirit of 1824.
Note: Not a "corrput bargain" but an election to the House.
Monday April 30th 2018
The Ritchie's met with Senators & Governors over weekend
Governor James Ritchie of Florida and his Father the 2002 Presidential nominee Rob Ritchie hosted a two day meeting of some the Republican parties top Senators and Governors at the Ritchie Family complex outside of Jacksonville.
Among those present where Senator Majority Leader Cody Riley and his Deputy Senator Max Lobell (jnr) along with fellow Senators, Lancaster, Hunter, Cassidy, Thomas and Rojas. From the Governors side, came Governors Butler, Boone, Cole, Wells, Moseley, Hart and Rudden. No official reason of the meeting was given but a brief press statement from Governor James Ritchie said it was a "private event for friends and colleagues", but there has been much speculation that the event was a discussion on the current state of the Presidential race which looks likely to be undecided until the convention due to be held in Tampa in late July.
A source from within the party told NBS "These are some of the brightest players within the party, along with older heads and they are very worried that a free for all at the convention, whoever wins the nomination is likely to lose in a landslide to Senator Seaborn, no one is talking of getting into the Presidential race this late, but how the current issues might be resolved by July".
UKpolitics.com
Monday April 30th 2018
London Mayoral Polling
Com Res
*First-preference
Jay (Con) 40% (+1)
Eames (Lab) 39% (+1)
Morgan (SA) 9% (-2)
Halsey (Lib Dem) 5%(n/c)
Freeman (NPP) 4%(n/c)
Daniels (Green) 2% (n/c)
Hale (Independent) 1% (n/c)
*Second-preference
Eames (Lab) 51%(n/c)
Jay (Con) 49% (n/c)
Monday April 30th 2018
London Mayoral Polling
Com Res
*First-preference
Jay (Con) 40% (+1)
Eames (Lab) 39% (+1)
Morgan (SA) 9% (-2)
Halsey (Lib Dem) 5%(n/c)
Freeman (NPP) 4%(n/c)
Daniels (Green) 2% (n/c)
Hale (Independent) 1% (n/c)
*Second-preference
Eames (Lab) 51%(n/c)
Jay (Con) 49% (n/c)
UKpolitics.com
Wednesday May 2nd 2018
Thoughts on the London Mayoral Election
Both Labour and the Conservatives originally planned for this campaign believing that if both candidates were basically neck-and-neck getting into polling day (as they are in all the polls), Labour's Dominic Eames would walk into City Hall on the basis of the fact that the second preference votes seem to favour him but it is now clear, that even with the second preference votes the election is far too close to call.
The battle over the last few days is for the votes on the second preference, which is around 20% of the vote, with both Jay and Eames pushing to win over the voters from Halsey, Daniels, Morgan and even Hale. Jay belives his background as a former Teacher, and with a successful record in local government and local government reform he can win over Liberal Democrat voters for the second preference votes. Jay has been a long time supporter of the Liberal Democrats cherished policy the "Pupil Premium", but many will be unhappy with his record at the Home Office, and his anti-EU stance. Dominic Eames has made it clear, that he truly believes that Socialist Alliance voters on the ballot first choice are just protest votes against Labour who will give him their second preference votes. Then we come to the votes of the National Peoples party votes, Jonathan Freeman looks like getting around 4% of the vote. Much of the strength of the party is driven from his support from working class former Labour voters (White van Man), Indeed Freeman who is running for a second time after picking up 3.8% four years ago, who along with Bedford Mayor Peter Reynolds are the front-runners to be the next party leader when Robert Webster finally retires in the next couple of years, has been attacking labour as the party that destroyed the real working class, indeed Jay's record as Home Secretary which may put off some Liberal Democrats voters could well appeal to them as well Jay's well known support for a second EU referendum and his backing for the teaching of British History and values.
Frankly in an election this close we just don't known how the second preference votes will break. I suspect Jay will lead after the first preference votes have been counted by between 10,000 and 15,000 votes, any less than it it's going to be hard for him, any better than that, he is almost certain to win, if it falls within that margin then it's going to be a very close call. Jay is clearly able to draw support from both the centre-left (Liberal Democrats) and the right (National Peoples Party), don't be surprised if on Friday evening, Jay wins.
Wednesday May 2nd 2018
Thoughts on the London Mayoral Election
Both Labour and the Conservatives originally planned for this campaign believing that if both candidates were basically neck-and-neck getting into polling day (as they are in all the polls), Labour's Dominic Eames would walk into City Hall on the basis of the fact that the second preference votes seem to favour him but it is now clear, that even with the second preference votes the election is far too close to call.
The battle over the last few days is for the votes on the second preference, which is around 20% of the vote, with both Jay and Eames pushing to win over the voters from Halsey, Daniels, Morgan and even Hale. Jay belives his background as a former Teacher, and with a successful record in local government and local government reform he can win over Liberal Democrat voters for the second preference votes. Jay has been a long time supporter of the Liberal Democrats cherished policy the "Pupil Premium", but many will be unhappy with his record at the Home Office, and his anti-EU stance. Dominic Eames has made it clear, that he truly believes that Socialist Alliance voters on the ballot first choice are just protest votes against Labour who will give him their second preference votes. Then we come to the votes of the National Peoples party votes, Jonathan Freeman looks like getting around 4% of the vote. Much of the strength of the party is driven from his support from working class former Labour voters (White van Man), Indeed Freeman who is running for a second time after picking up 3.8% four years ago, who along with Bedford Mayor Peter Reynolds are the front-runners to be the next party leader when Robert Webster finally retires in the next couple of years, has been attacking labour as the party that destroyed the real working class, indeed Jay's record as Home Secretary which may put off some Liberal Democrats voters could well appeal to them as well Jay's well known support for a second EU referendum and his backing for the teaching of British History and values.
Frankly in an election this close we just don't known how the second preference votes will break. I suspect Jay will lead after the first preference votes have been counted by between 10,000 and 15,000 votes, any less than it it's going to be hard for him, any better than that, he is almost certain to win, if it falls within that margin then it's going to be a very close call. Jay is clearly able to draw support from both the centre-left (Liberal Democrats) and the right (National Peoples Party), don't be surprised if on Friday evening, Jay wins.
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BBC.CO.UK/politics
Thursday May 3rd 2018
Council polls to take place across England
Voters will head to the polls today for council and mayoral elections across England.Elections are being held in 150 local authorities, spanning metropolitan and district councils, unitary authorities and London and the boroughs.
The biggest prize on offer is the mayor ship of Greater London with Watford, Hackney, Newham, Lewisham and Tower Hamlets also electing mayors while the first-ever mayor for the Sheffield City Region will also be chosen.
Polling stations around England opened at 07:00 BST and close at 22:00 BST. There are no local elections in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
The council polls, in which 4,371 seats are being contested, are the last England-wide test of electoral opinion before this year's general election which has to be held on before November 8th.
Thursday May 3rd 2018
Council polls to take place across England
Voters will head to the polls today for council and mayoral elections across England.Elections are being held in 150 local authorities, spanning metropolitan and district councils, unitary authorities and London and the boroughs.
The biggest prize on offer is the mayor ship of Greater London with Watford, Hackney, Newham, Lewisham and Tower Hamlets also electing mayors while the first-ever mayor for the Sheffield City Region will also be chosen.
Polling stations around England opened at 07:00 BST and close at 22:00 BST. There are no local elections in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
The council polls, in which 4,371 seats are being contested, are the last England-wide test of electoral opinion before this year's general election which has to be held on before November 8th.
BBC.CO.UK/Politics
Thursday May 3rd 2018
How the BBC reports polling day
The BBC, like other broadcasters, isn't allowed to report details of campaigning while the polls are open.
The BBC is required by electoral law to adopt a code of practice, ensuring fairness between candidates and that is particularly important on polling day.
On polling day specifically, the BBC doesn't report on any of the election campaigns from 00:30 BST until polls close at 22:00 BST on TV, radio or bbc.co.uk or on social media and other channels.
However, online sites do not have to remove archived reports, including, for instance, programmes on iPlayer.
Coverage on the day is usually restricted to uncontroversial factual accounts, such as the appearance of politicians at polling stations, or the weather.
It tends to focus on giving information which will help voters with the process of going to polling stations.
Subjects which have been at issue or part of the campaign - or other controversial matters relating to the election - must not be covered on polling day itself; it's important that the BBC's output cannot be seen to be directly influencing the ballot while the polls are open.
However, that does not mean that other politics, for instance, what happens in Parliament or political events and stories not directly connected to the elections, cannot be covered.
And, of course, output broadcasting only to places where there are no elections, such as in Scotland and Wales, are not subject to the restrictions in the same way.
No opinion poll on any issue relating to politics or the election can be published until after the polls have closed.
Whilst the polls are open, it is a criminal offence to publish anything about the way in which people have voted in that election.
From 22:00 BST normal reporting of the council election resumes.
Thursday May 3rd 2018
How the BBC reports polling day
The BBC, like other broadcasters, isn't allowed to report details of campaigning while the polls are open.
The BBC is required by electoral law to adopt a code of practice, ensuring fairness between candidates and that is particularly important on polling day.
On polling day specifically, the BBC doesn't report on any of the election campaigns from 00:30 BST until polls close at 22:00 BST on TV, radio or bbc.co.uk or on social media and other channels.
However, online sites do not have to remove archived reports, including, for instance, programmes on iPlayer.
Coverage on the day is usually restricted to uncontroversial factual accounts, such as the appearance of politicians at polling stations, or the weather.
It tends to focus on giving information which will help voters with the process of going to polling stations.
Subjects which have been at issue or part of the campaign - or other controversial matters relating to the election - must not be covered on polling day itself; it's important that the BBC's output cannot be seen to be directly influencing the ballot while the polls are open.
However, that does not mean that other politics, for instance, what happens in Parliament or political events and stories not directly connected to the elections, cannot be covered.
And, of course, output broadcasting only to places where there are no elections, such as in Scotland and Wales, are not subject to the restrictions in the same way.
No opinion poll on any issue relating to politics or the election can be published until after the polls have closed.
Whilst the polls are open, it is a criminal offence to publish anything about the way in which people have voted in that election.
From 22:00 BST normal reporting of the council election resumes.
BBC.CO.UK/politics
Friday May 4th 2018
Mixed Night for Conservatives and Labour as NPP make gains
It was a mixed night for the two main parties with both making gains and losing controls of Councils. As excepted Labour won back control in Liverpool from the Socialist Alliance, and won Plymouth from the Conservatives, whilst the Tories made gains in the North East becoming the largest Party in Sunderland.
It was a good night for the National Peoples Party as they gained control in Southend and Castle Point in Essex and became the largest party in the once Labour heartland of Hartlepool.
Both the Liberal Democrats and the Greens have increased their numbers of Councillors, but have not won control of any councils.
The London Borough's will be announcing the results of the London Mayoral Election during the course of the day.
Friday May 4th 2018
Mixed Night for Conservatives and Labour as NPP make gains
It was a mixed night for the two main parties with both making gains and losing controls of Councils. As excepted Labour won back control in Liverpool from the Socialist Alliance, and won Plymouth from the Conservatives, whilst the Tories made gains in the North East becoming the largest Party in Sunderland.
It was a good night for the National Peoples Party as they gained control in Southend and Castle Point in Essex and became the largest party in the once Labour heartland of Hartlepool.
Both the Liberal Democrats and the Greens have increased their numbers of Councillors, but have not won control of any councils.
The London Borough's will be announcing the results of the London Mayoral Election during the course of the day.
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BBC.CO.UK/Politics
Friday May 4th 2018
Counting underway across London for Mayor
Counting is underway across the 32 boroughs and the City of London to see who will be the next Mayor of Greater London.
So far confirmed The Conservative candidate Nigel Jay has won the first preference in the following borough's:
Friday May 4th 2018
Counting underway across London for Mayor
Counting is underway across the 32 boroughs and the City of London to see who will be the next Mayor of Greater London.
So far confirmed The Conservative candidate Nigel Jay has won the first preference in the following borough's:
- Barnet
- Bromley
- Bexley
- City of London
- Enfield
- Hillingdon
- Kensington & Chelsea
- Kingston upon Thames
- Sutton
- Wandsworth
- City of Westminster
- Brent (Gain from SA)
- Camden
- Lambeth (Gain from SA)
- Lewisham (Gain from Con)
- Newham
- Southwark
- Waltham Forest
BBC.CO.UK/politics
Friday May 4th 2018
London Mayoral Election-update
The first preference votes have all now been declared by borough, and we now have this result which has been released by City Hall
The second preference votes will now be counted and allocated to the two remaining candidates.
The results are almost exactly as the polls had been predicting. As this is a new system of announcing the results we are not sure how long it will be until we get a winner. It could even go into tomorrow, if it is as close as it looks like being.
Friday May 4th 2018
London Mayoral Election-update
The first preference votes have all now been declared by borough, and we now have this result which has been released by City Hall
- Nigel Jay Conservative 1,290,271 votes 39.34%
- Dominic Eames Labour 1,278,003 votes 38.97%
- Jackie Morgan Socialist Alliance 302,605 votes 9.23%
- Daniel Halsey Liberal Democrat 179,053 votes 5.46%
- Jonathan Freeman National Peoples Party 139,710 votes 4.26%
- Roxanne Daniels Green Party 54,420 votes 1.66%
- William Hale Independent 35,742 votes 1.09%
The second preference votes will now be counted and allocated to the two remaining candidates.
The results are almost exactly as the polls had been predicting. As this is a new system of announcing the results we are not sure how long it will be until we get a winner. It could even go into tomorrow, if it is as close as it looks like being.
BBC.CO.UK/Politics
Friday May 4th 2018
We have had it confirmed as the counting of the first preference voters by borough took longer than expected, the counting of the second preference votes will be re-started at 9.am in all of the borough's.
This is how the borough's broke by candidate.
Jay
Friday May 4th 2018
We have had it confirmed as the counting of the first preference voters by borough took longer than expected, the counting of the second preference votes will be re-started at 9.am in all of the borough's.
This is how the borough's broke by candidate.
Jay
- Barnet
- Bexley
- Bromley
- City of London
- Croydon
- Enfield
- Hammersmith & Fulham
- Harrow
- Havering
- Hillingdon
- Hounslow
- Kensington & Chelsea
- Kingston-upon-Thames
- Merton
- Richmond-upon-Thames
- Sutton
- Wandsworth
- Westminster
- Barking & Dagenham
- Brent
- Camden
- Ealing
- Greenwich
- Hackney
- Haringey
- Islington
- Lambeth
- Lewisham
- Newham
- Redbridge
- Southwark
- Tower Hamlets
- Waltham Forest
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BBC.CO.UK/politics
Saturday May 5th 2018
Mayoral race still undecided
Eames narrowly ahead on second preference votes with seven Borough's still left to declare
Final result expected by 6.PM after more delays
Saturday May 5th 2018
Mayoral race still undecided
Eames narrowly ahead on second preference votes with seven Borough's still left to declare
Final result expected by 6.PM after more delays
BBC.CO.UK/politics
Saturday May 5th 2018
Breaking News Breaking News
Conservative Nigel Jay elected London Mayor by just 97 Votes
Labour's Dominic Eames suffered a heart-breaking defeat after winning more second preference votes but was it not enough to edge out Jay.
With Jay leading by 12,268 votes after the first preference votes, it looked like Eames would win on the second preference votes which he did with more votes, but it was not enough to reach the 50.01% of the vote required to win. On the second preference votes Eames won 316,784 votes (50.98%) to Jay's 304,613 votes (49.02%) but when added together to with the first preference votes Jay won 1,594,884 votes (50.002%) to Eames 1,594,787 votes (49.998%) a margin of just 97 votes (0.003%).
Saturday May 5th 2018
Breaking News Breaking News
Conservative Nigel Jay elected London Mayor by just 97 Votes
Labour's Dominic Eames suffered a heart-breaking defeat after winning more second preference votes but was it not enough to edge out Jay.
With Jay leading by 12,268 votes after the first preference votes, it looked like Eames would win on the second preference votes which he did with more votes, but it was not enough to reach the 50.01% of the vote required to win. On the second preference votes Eames won 316,784 votes (50.98%) to Jay's 304,613 votes (49.02%) but when added together to with the first preference votes Jay won 1,594,884 votes (50.002%) to Eames 1,594,787 votes (49.998%) a margin of just 97 votes (0.003%).
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By-election Alert
The election of Nigel Jay (Conservative) as London Mayor and the election of Nick Harris (Labour) as Sheffield City Mayor will require them both to resign as MP's meaning by-election's in St Albans and Sheffield Central will be required. Likely to be held on Thursday June 14th.
Both are "safe seats" for each defending party, Jay's majority at the 2013 General Election was 10,117 with the Liberal Democrats in second place. Harris majority at the 2013 General Election was 14,484 with the Liberal Democrats like in St Albans in second place.
The election of Nigel Jay (Conservative) as London Mayor and the election of Nick Harris (Labour) as Sheffield City Mayor will require them both to resign as MP's meaning by-election's in St Albans and Sheffield Central will be required. Likely to be held on Thursday June 14th.
Both are "safe seats" for each defending party, Jay's majority at the 2013 General Election was 10,117 with the Liberal Democrats in second place. Harris majority at the 2013 General Election was 14,484 with the Liberal Democrats like in St Albans in second place.
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