2010 US Presidential Election

[Tim Thomason]

Am I confused, or is Myanmar not on there?

EDIT: I'm just confused.

Ah, I kinda mumbled the explanation there. Myanmar's still around, and as "Myanmarese" as ever. Which means they still adopted their recent flag in both timelines (in my mind).

<Facepalm> It's a duchy not a kingdom, isn't it?

"Now, wait a second. That’s not right. I’m not the President of Bulgaria. I am the President of the Grand Kingdom of Luxembourg." (President (of the US) Jed Bartlet, In Excelsis Deo). Also, see here.

This is going to bother me what was the country admitted in 1976? I know the last one is probably South Sudan

1. Equatorial Kundu
2. Qumar
3. Central African Federation
4. (1976 nation)
5. Palestine
6. South Sudan

"How much would it cost for you to provide free drugs to the Sahelese Republic, Kenya, and the Republic of Equatorial Kundu?" (Josh Lyman, In This White House) Also, see here.

Not sure yet about South Sudan, and it wouldn't be an addition seperate from OTL anyway. And yes, I don't mind bothering you with something that I see as blatantly obvious.

Oh, and:

• The RL flag of Malawi is a contentious thing based upon current politics there. I figured the politics would be (potentially) different enough that the old flag wouldn't have been changed.
• Okay, the CAF flag is cutesy to me. I don't mind if someone decides to make a different one. The "plus signs" are katanga sticks, a traditional currency of the region.
• Lesotho, Bahrain, Cape Verde and Comoros are relatively current flags that I saw no reason for them to have not adopted in this TL.
• The Sahelese Republic flag is the proposed flag of the Sahrawi Democratic Republic if they had been recognized as a sovereign nation. Which I'm assuming it pretty much is in this TL, accept with a far different government that identifies itself as "Sahelese." The Sahel is a region of Africa underneath the Sahara. A bit farther south than Western Sahara, I'm assuming it's just name-taking like Ghana (which is farther south than the ancient Ghana Empire was).

 

[Tim Thomason]

More, more, more:

• I like the flag of Georgia, and even though it's relatively recent, it still has historic ties and could conceivably be created under different circumstances.
• The Kosovo War had to have happened somewhat differently in this TL (although it *did* happen), and it involved former State Secretary Sidney Gregg. As such, I'm assuming independence was agreed to earlier, and it's a fully fledged member of the United Nations now. The flag was an earlier flag used in Kosovo.
• Nothing on the show or in the thread proves or disproves the establishment of the nations of East Timor and Montenegro. So I'm assuming they happened similarly and on schedule, albeit with different faces.
• Per these notes, Palestine will (probably) become a full member of the United Nations soon. Right now, they hold the Observer seat that originally belonged to the Palestinian Liberation Organization.
• Marky Bunny came up with the name "Free World Holy City State." I think it's a mouthful, but it might make more sense in Arabic and Hebrew.
• The flag for Jerusalem was created by me about a week ago as a conglomeration of Jerusalem's RL flag with a bunch of Palestinian elements added, and the Western Wall elements removed. The words spell out "Jerusalem" and "al-Quds" (Islamic name) in Hebrew and Arabic, respectively. Hopefully, it makes sense. It was the entire reason I started this.
• There's been no mention in this thread on what's going on in the Sudan. I hope they're still working on independence. The thread has only really dealt with the unrecognized countries of Northern Cyprus and Taiwan. Of course, plenty more might exist that I "forgot"...

Flags of United Nations members: Argentine Republic (Argentina) Republic of Belarus Federative Republic of Brazil Republic of Chile People's Republic of China Republic of Cuba Kingdom of Denmark Dominican Republic Arab Republic of Egypt Republic of El Salvador French Republic (France) Republic of Haiti Islamic Republic of Iran Lebanese Republic (Lebanon) Grand Kingdom of Luxembourg New Zealand Republic of Nicaragua Republic of Paraguay Republic of the Philippines Republic of Poland Russian Federation (Russia) Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Syrian Arab Republic (Syria) Republic of Turkey Ukraine United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland United States of America Hellenic Republic (Greece) Republic of India Republic of Peru Commonwealth of Australia Republic of Costa Rica Republic of Liberia Republic of Colombia United Mexican States (Mexico) Republic of South Africa Canada Republic of Equatorial Kundu Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia Republic of Panama Plurinational State of Bolivia Republic of Venezuela Republic of Guatemala Kingdom of Norway Kingdom of the Netherlands Republic of Honduras Oriental Republic of Uruguay Republic of Ecuador Republic of Iraq Kingdom of Belgium Islamic Republic of Afghanistan Republic of Iceland Kingdom of Sweden Kingdom of Thailand Islamic Republic of Pakistan Republic of Yemen Union of Myanmar State of Israel Republic of Indonesia Republic of Albania Republic of Austria Republic of Bulgaria Kingdom of Cambodia Republic of Finland Republic of Hungary Ireland Italian Republic (Italy) Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan Lao People's Democratic Republic (Laos) Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya (Libya) Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal Portuguese Republic (Portugal) Islamic Republic of Qumar Romania Kingdom of Spain Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka Kingdom of Morocco Republic of the Sudan Republic of Tunisia Japan Republic of Ghana Malaysia Republic of Guinea Republic of Benin Burkina Faso Republic of Cameroon Central African Republic Republic of Chad Republic of the Congo Republic of the Ivory Coast Republic of Cyprus Gabonese Republic (Gabon) Republic of Madagascar Republic of Niger Somali Republic (Somalia) Togolese Republic (Togo) Republic of Zaire Republic of Mali Republic of Senegal Federal Republic of Nigeria Republic of Sierra Leone Islamic Republic of Mauritania Mongolia United Republic of Tanzania Republic of Burundi Jamaica Republic of Rwanda Republic of Trinidad and Tobago People's Democratic Republic of Algeria Republic of Uganda State of Kuwait Republic of Kenya Republic of Malawi Republic of Malta Republic of Zambia Republic of the Gambia Republic of Maldives Republic of Singapore Central African Federation Co-operative Republic of Guyana Republic of Botswana Kingdom of Lesotho Barbados Republic of Mauritius Kingdom of Swaziland Republic of Equatorial Guinea Republic of the Fiji Islands (Fiji) Kingdom of Bahrain Kingdom of Bhutan State of Qatar Sultanate of Oman United Arab Emirates Commonwealth of the Bahamas Federal Republic of Germany People's Republic of Bangladesh Grenada Republic of Guinea-Bissau Republic of Cape Verde Republic of Mozambique Democratic Republic of São Tomé and Príncipe Independent State of Papua New Guinea Union of the Comoros Republic of Suriname Sahelese Republic Republic of Seychelles Republic of Angola Independent State of Samoa Republic of Djibouti Socialist Republic of Vietnam Solomon Islands Commonwealth of Djibouti Saint Lucia Republic of Zimbabwe Saint Vincent and the Grenadines Republic of Vanuatu Belize Antigua and Barbuda Federation of Saint Christopher and Nevis (Saint Kitts and Nevis) State of Brunei, Abode of Peace Republic of Namibia Principality of Liechtenstein Republic of Estonia Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea) Republic of Korea (South Korea) Republic of Latvia Republic of Lithuania Republic of the Marshall Islands Federated States of Micronesia Republic of Armenia Republic of Azerbaijan Republic of Kazakhstan Kyrgyz Republic (Kyrgyzstan) Republic of Moldova Republic of San Marino Republic of Tajikistan Turkmenistan Republic of Uzbekistan Bosnia and Herzegovina Republic of Croatia Republic of Slovenia Georgia Republic of Slovenia Slovak Republic (Slovakia) Republic of Macedonia State of Eritrea Principality of Monaco Principality of Andorra Republic of Palau Republic of Kiribati Republic of Nauru Kingdom of Tonga Republic of Kosovo Tuvalu Republic of Serbia Swiss Confederation (Switzerland) Democratic Republic of Timor-Leste (East Timor) Montenegro State of the Vatican City (Holy See) State of Palestine Free World Holy City State of Jerusalem Republic of Abkhazia Nagorno-Karabakh Republic Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus Republic of Somaliland Republic of South Ossetia Republic of South Sudan Republic of China (Taiwan) Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic (Transnistria)

 

[Prometheus_2300]

More, more, more:
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• I like the flag of Georgia, and even though it's relatively recent, it still has historic ties and could conceivably be created under different circumstances.
• The Kosovo War had to have happened somewhat differently in this TL (although it *did* happen), and it involved former State Secretary Sidney Gregg. As such, I'm assuming independence was agreed to earlier, and it's a fully fledged member of the United Nations now. The flag was an earlier flag used in Kosovo.
• Nothing on the show or in the thread proves or disproves the establishment of the nations of East Timor and Montenegro. So I'm assuming they happened similarly and on schedule, albeit with different faces.
• Per these notes, Palestine will (probably) become a full member of the United Nations soon. Right now, they hold the Observer seat that originally belonged to the Palestinian Liberation Organization.
• Marky Bunny came up with the name "Free World Holy City State." I think it's a mouthful, but it might make more sense in Arabic and Hebrew.
• The flag for Jerusalem was created by me about a week ago as a conglomeration of Jerusalem's RL flag with a bunch of Palestinian elements added, and the Western Wall elements removed. The words spell out "Jerusalem" and "al-Quds" (Islamic name) in Hebrew and Arabic, respectively. Hopefully, it makes sense. It was the entire reason I started this.
• There's been no mention in this thread on what's going on in the Sudan. I hope they're still working on independence. The thread has only really dealt with the unrecognized countries of Northern Cyprus and Taiwan. Of course, plenty more might exist that I "forgot"...

So it seems 162 nations, 3 observers, and 8 partial status. Is that right?

 

[Tim Thomason]

So it seems 162 nations, 3 observers, and 8 partial status. Is that right?

What? No, that's way off. 197 nations, 3 observers (1 to be promoted soon), and 8 partials.

In the real-world, there are 192 nations, 1 observer, and 10 partials.

The 5 extra nations are:
- Central African Federation
- Sahelese Republic
- Qumar
- Equatorial Kundu
- Kosovo

The 2 extra observers are:
- Palestine
- Jerusalem

The 3 missing partials are:
- Palestine (an observer in TTL)
- Sahrawi Democratic Republic (full-fledged "Sahelese Republic")
- Kosovo (full-fledged)

The 1 added partial is:
- South Sudan (which will be a full-fledged member in OTL, but not yet)

 

[KahukuMan10]

politico.com

Jack rules out a senate bid

Popular two-term governor of Minnesota, Michael Jack, today ruled out a possibility of running for the open senate seat in his state. Senior US senator Mark Ramsey (R-MN) announced early this year that he would run for Jack's spot as governor, prompting many people in the party to question if Jack and Ramsey would do a simple switch-aro. However, Jack quickly put an end to such rumors today. "No ifs, ands, or buts about it. I am not running for the US senate seat in Minnesota next year. When I first ran for Governor in 2004, I had the chance to run for the senate that year, but I chose against it because I didn't want to be apart from my family. And it is for that same reason that today, I must once again refuse to seek a US senate seat."

Jack's decision could make things more difficult for the party to hold onto the seat. The state has always trended blue (although last year was an exception), and has a CVI rating of D+2. If you look at the major republicans statewide, namely Jack, Ramsey, and freshman senator Jack Hunter, they are all pretty moderate, Ramsey especially. But the potential bench without Jack in the running is fairly thin on the moderate side. The biggest name from the bunch is former congresswoman Karen Hunich, who seems to embody the establishment of the party, and she'll be challenged by libertarian former state treasurer and self-financed small businessman Dave Stricker.

The democrats have a situation very similar. Over recent years, there potential big contenders have been pretty much taken out of the picture. Edward McBain is running for Governor, and 2010 senatorial candidate Jarod Daniels has stated he has no plans to run this year. Pretty much, leaving the field wide open. That leaves a bunch of slim pickings that DSCC Chairman Andrew Thorn to pick from. There is the star-bound 50 year old congresswoman Kimberley Clinton (D-MN) who seems to be the frontrunner, when she launched her campaign early in the year when Ramsey said he'd be leaving to run for the governorship. She has at least two other potential contenders, in Rochester club owner billionaire Hank "the tank" Bassinglas, and Hennepin County district attorney Harvey Henfield, who is being strongly funded by YIR supporters. He declared his intentions to run, several weeks before Ramsey announced he was planning on leaving.

 

[Tim Thomason]

cnn.com
Haiti's Colonel Bazen declares himself Emperor
Tuesday, May 17, 2011

Colonel Bertrand Bazen, the head of the military council that rules over Haiti, announced on Monday that he would be taking over as "Emperor of Haiti." Here is a quote from his speech, on TNH:

My brothers, my sisters, it is with great humility that I make the following announcement. I have consulted with the members of the Haitian Peoples' Council, the President, and party leaders, and we have all reached the conclusion that strong, open leadership is necessary for all. I do not take this challenge lightly, and this is not intended to be a lifetime appointment. As your Emperor, the People's Emperor, we will stand side-by-side those nations that have previously looked down upon Haiti. I follow humbly in the footsteps of the noble Roman Emperor Augustus, the respected French Emperor Napoleon, and the honorable Emperor of Haiti Jacques. No longer will I be the simple soldier serving our fine people. Upon my coronation, I will humbly and graciously take the place of your Emperor.

Bazen, who took power in a military coup in 2001, has cut all ties with the United States and most Western democracies, and has seen his nation wither in the face of increased pressure to step down. Immediately after the coup, he "stepped down," placing power instead in an interim President, Robert Gessard. Gessard would resign in 2004 and flee the country, to be replaced by Charles Nouveau, the current President of Haiti. It has been an open secret that the two men took orders directly from Bazen, the 'appointed' head of the Haitian Peoples' Council and commander-in-chief of the military.

Since 2001, the last legitimately elected President of Haiti, Marc Dessalines, has lived in Florida, running a government-in-exile that is currently only backed by the American government and some of its allies. He was joined by Gessard in 2004.

Bazen reportedly gave an open invitation to Pope Victor IV to serve at his coronation, although it is highly likely the the Pope will decline. It is suspected that the Archbishop of Port-au-Prince will decline as well.

 

[Tim Thomason]

BBC World News
Orthodox Patriarch Attacked on Trip to Northern Cyprus
Tuesday, May 17, 2011

Constantine VII, the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople and spiritual leader of the Eastern Orthodox Church, was attacked by a group of 30 protestors in Nicosia yesterday. Early reports indicated that the Patriarch was unharmed in the attack, but one of his guards was seriously injured and at one protestor was killed.

The protestors had acted like a 'flash mob', organizing the activity days beforehand for the Patriarch's scheduled Reconciliation Tour of Northern Cyprus. In 2009, the Patriarch had been expelled from Turkey during the brief Greek-Turkish conflict that had heavily affected life in Cyprus. This was his first visit to the majority-Muslim Northern Cyprus region.

Several protestors were arrested by local authorities, and it is believed to have been an attempted kidnapping. The Patriarch has urged Northern and Southern Cypriots, as well as the Turkish and Greek figures, to not treat this as an escalation of hostilities. He has also urged followers around the world to pray for the family of the deceased protestor, who's name has not been revealed at press time.

 

[Tim Thomason]

cnn.com
Illinois Congressman Shows Up to Work in His Underwear
Tuesday, May 17, 2011

Freshman Congressman Marvin Troughton, elected last month in a special election to fill Transportation Secretary Larry Shanks' vacant seat, showed up to Congress on Monday dressed only in his underwear: white boxers and a tank top.

The stunt, which was apparently pre-planned, was derided by some of Troughton's fellow Illinois Republicans, such as Bill Delmon or Jasper Irving. Republican Whip Brad Gilmore told a reporter that "theatrics like that have no place on the steps of the Capitol."

In front of reporters, Troughton claimed to have not been allowed access due to his attire. He said that with the state of taxation in America, 'we can no longer afford decent clothing, and might as well show up to work in our underpants.'

A similar stunt was made three weeks ago, when Troughton 'begged' for spare change from reporters on the same Capitol steps.

 

[Tim Thomason]

NBS News
King of Bhutan announces Wedding Date
Tuesday, May 17, 2011

Yeshey Pradhan Nawa, the Druk Gyalpo (Dragon King) of Bhutan, has announced his wedding date to Paro Jamyang, his long-term girlfriend. King Nawa is 21 years old, and Paro is 29, one of many controversies surrounding the couple. They will be married on his late father's birthday, June 9th.

Another controversy is Paro's appearance amongst the Bhutanese. In the traditional society of Bhutan, her status as a sex symbol has garnered criticism by the royal elite. In 2005, she was the first Bhutanese woman to be crowned Miss World. World renowned for her beauty, Paro would pose for some men's magazines (Maxim, among others) in 2007 and dated Hollywood comedian Corey Sykes from 2006 to 2008. In 2009 she returned from the United States to her home country, and began making appearances with the then 19-year-old King.

Bhutan is a Buddhist nation, and the former King Nawa had seven wives at the time of his death in January 2003. This will be the first marriage for the current King Nawa, who has been pressured during much of his reign to take on a wife.

Paro Jamyang, the soon-to-be Queen of Bhutan

 

[Tim Thomason]

I gave up on trying to insert a "Libyans..." joke in here.

CNDNews.com
Lessig on Palestine: 'We're Making Real Progress'
Tuesday, May 17, 2011

Professor Lawrence Lessig, the former Secretary of Education who is working in Jerusalem on drafting a new Palestinian Constitution, gave an interview to CND News Sunday.

"We're making real progress here. I've spoken with Mukarat, with Ali, with Hastan, and the amount of understanding is fascinating," said Lessig to our reporters. "This whole situation is breathtaking."

When pressed, Lessig admitted that no real documents had been written up, but that a 'sense of value' and 'democracy' had been instilled in Palestinian and Jerusalem leaders. "It's not my job to draft any work. I am merely here to advise and help motivate the people here."

Some have criticized Lessig's hands-off approach, but he has been praised by Republicans and Democrats alike. Democratic strategist Martin Keaton, a former student of Lessig's at Stanford 20 years ago, stated, "Doc knows what he's doing. He helped stabilize the Belarusians, and he will help send the Palestinians into a bright future."

Some of his detractors include controversial TPA spokesman Mike Skinner. Skinner said in a speech outside Albany, New York: "I'll never trust Dr. Lessig. Not he since he killed my son." The confusing dialog was later explained to refer to possible implementation of fundamentalist law in Palestine's Constitution, which could lead to executions of homosexuals, like in Qumar three years ago. Mike Skinner's son is noted gay Senator Matt Skinner of Vermont.

 

[MaskedPickle]

washingtonpost.com

Senator Aubry goes to France

On the pretext that her father had just been diagnosed with liver cancer this week-end, Senator Camille Aubry (D-CO) has arrived this morning in her native country, France, for a three-day stay.

Many have questioned the personal nature of this sudden travel, in the Beltway as in France. The first round of the French presidential election is scheduled for this Sunday, and all the presidential candidates paid tribute to the Senator, from frontrunner and incumbent Prime Minister Giselle Trenier (UMP, right-wing) who has celebrated "the triumphant Frenchwoman" she was, former Prime Minister Charles Durand (PS, left-wing) who praised her as "a true socialist, but in the American way" and even Christophe Lévêque (FN, far right), who is making a last minute surge in polls, who described Aubry as "a true daughter of the French motherland".

Pressed by French journalists, the Senator has refused to endorse anybody in the French presidential election, and after paying a visit to her ailing father, accepted to have lunch with outgoing President Jean-Marc d'Aister, who refused to run for another term after his conviction following a rape scandal in late 2009.

Senator Camille Aubry with French President d'Aister

Prime Minister Giselle Trenier, UMP presidential candidate

Former Prime Minister Charles Durand, PS presidential candidate

MEP Christophe Lévêque, National Front presidential candidate

***
Casting:
Josiane Balasko as Giselle Trenier
Michel Piccoli as Charles Durand
Lambert Wilson as Christophe Lévêque

 

[Marky Bunny]

I gave up on trying to insert a "Libyans..." joke in here.

CNDNews.com
Lessig on Palestine: 'We're Making Real Progress'
Tuesday, May 17, 2011

Professor Lawrence Lessig, the former Secretary of Education who is working in Jerusalem on drafting a new Palestinian Constitution, gave an interview to CND News Sunday.

"We're making real progress here. I've spoken with Mukarat, with Ali, with Hastan, and the amount of understanding is fascinating," said Lessig to our reporters. "This whole situation is breathtaking."

When pressed, Lessig admitted that no real documents had been written up, but that a 'sense of value' and 'democracy' had been instilled in Palestinian and Jerusalem leaders. "It's not my job to draft any work. I am merely here to advise and help motivate the people here."

Some have criticized Lessig's hands-off approach, but he has been praised by Republicans and Democrats alike. Democratic strategist Martin Keaton, a former student of Lessig's at Stanford 20 years ago, stated, "Doc knows what he's doing. He helped stabilize the Belarusians, and he will help send the Palestinians into a bright future."

Some of his detractors include controversial TPA spokesman Mike Skinner. Skinner said in a speech outside Albany, New York: "I'll never trust Dr. Lessig. Not he since he killed my son." The confusing dialog was later explained to refer to possible implementation of fundamentalist law in Palestine's Constitution, which could lead to executions of homosexuals, like in Qumar three years ago. Mike Skinner's son is noted gay Senator Matt Skinner of Vermont.

Very good you got a Back to the Future and Star Trek in-joke intot he same story, brilliant!!!

 

[KahukuMan10]

ooc: ready to have your minds blown? cookies for anyone that can figure out the paradox/s within this post.

msnbc.com

Bartlet bashed Walken administration

Today on The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell, a Bartlet stood up and declared that the Walken administration is destroying the agriculture in the United States. No, it wasn't former President Jed Bartlet, whom has a close friendship with incumbent President Walken, but the former's brother Jonathan Bartlet. Jonathan Bartlet served in President Santos' cabinet as the secretary of agriculture, and did an admirable job as a non-politician in the cabinet.

But today he stepped forward in bashing the current administration's policies towards his beloved career. "Within 5 months of being in office, I can tell you that the job being done, is not a job being done well enough. In fact, it's a horrendous effort put forth by the Walken administration. They just can't seem to get their act together on agriculture. We need more food production, and more funding, but that's just not what these "cut, cut, cut," republicans will listen to."

While his rant on the Walken administration was good and decent, O'Donnell then changed the subject to Bartlet's older brother, the former President, who remains confined to a wheelchair with limited walking ability. The young Bartlet broke down crying on the set, so O'Donnell promptly changed the subject once more to the duo's father, long since passed away, and their relationship with him.

 

[Westbrook]

ooc: ready to have your minds blown? cookies for anyone that can figure out the paradox/s within this post.

msnbc.com

Bartlet bashed Walken administration

Today on The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell, a Bartlet stood up and declared that the Walken administration is destroying the agriculture in the United States. No, it wasn't former President Jed Bartlet, whom has a close friendship with incumbent President Walken, but the former's brother Jonathan Bartlet. Jonathan Bartlet served in President Santos' cabinet as the secretary of agriculture, and did an admirable job as a non-politician in the cabinet.

But today he stepped forward in bashing the current administration's policies towards his beloved career. "Within 5 months of being in office, I can tell you that the job being done, is not a job being done well enough. In fact, it's a horrendous effort put forth by the Walken administration. They just can't seem to get their act together on agriculture. We need more food production, and more funding, but that's just not what these "cut, cut, cut," republicans will listen to."

While his rant on the Walken administration was good and decent, O'Donnell then changed the subject to Bartlet's older brother, the former President, who remains confined to a wheelchair with limited walking ability. The young Bartlet broke down crying on the set, so O'Donnell promptly changed the subject once more to the duo's father, long since passed away, and their relationship with him.

Lawrence O'Donnell played Jed Bartlet's father on the show.

And btw:

It happened again!

 

[KahukuMan10]

ooc: and Tim retcon casted him as Jonathan Bartlet.

 

[Prometheus_2300]

ooc: and Tim retcon casted him as Jonathan Bartlet.

Familial resemblance must be strong.

 

[Tim Thomason]

Former Secretary of Agriculture Jonathan Bartlet was interviewed by Lawrence O'Donnell last week. Here he is talking about the Bartlet legacy. Inserted photo is of Edward Bartlet, Jonathan and former President Josiah Bartlet's father:


I see a vague similarity.

 

[KahukuMan10]

Yes!!! The two worlds are now a single world! Are the Bartlet's and O'Donnell by any chance related to the O'Donnell who exec produced the show for while?

 

[Westbrook]

Yes!!! The two worlds are now a single world! Are the Bartlet's and O'Donnell by any chance related to the O'Donnell who exec produced the show for while?

Actually, I think that they are one and the same.

 

[JoeMulk]

Steve Seaborne, father of Sam Seaborne and former Kennedy administration speechwriter recently released his memoir and is seen here outside a fundraiser for his son's succesful senatorial campaign last October.