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Bulldoggus

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The progressives have it right, here. The supreme court is inherently political in its mandate. The idea that simply having a clean judicial record is enough to be a good appointment to a court taking far reaching moral and social decisions is simply ignoring reality. If that wasn't the case, justices wouldn't be political appointees.
They’re theoretically correct, but such a decision could well explode in their faces. Remember, IOTL there were no justices blocked on openly ideological grounds until the 80’s, and he was an extreme hardliner. Contrast that to a fairly moderate (at least to the Very Serious People) guy who would take the power away from the hardliners, and you have very different optics. It will be interesting to see...
 
They’re theoretically correct, but such a decision could well explode in their faces. Remember, IOTL there were no justices blocked on openly ideological grounds until the 80’s, and he was an extreme hardliner.

Actually, John J. Parker was (narrowly) blocked in 1930 IOTL because he both wrote an opinion favoring "yellow dog" contracts (the now-illegal contracts that had a clause that the employee could not join a union while working for the employer) and openly stated that black participation in politics was a "a source of evil and danger to both races and is not desired by the wise men in either race or by the Republican Party of North Carolina."

Then there are Nixon's OTL two failed nominees, Clement Haynsworth and G. Harrold Carswell who were also southern jurists who had made too many decisions or remarks that were looked on as a little too friendly towards Jim Crow.
 
Also according to the update, the UK is going to collapse after going fascist. It doesn't sound like there are fun times ahead for the Brits. My guess is that either Churchill goes off the deep end or someone like Oswald Moseley becomes Prime Minister.
 
Also according to the update, the UK is going to collapse after going fascist. It doesn't sound like there are fun times ahead for the Brits. My guess is that either Churchill goes off the deep end or someone like Oswald Moseley becomes Prime Minister.
I don't think it will be outright fascism. The timeline thus far has been setting up a conflict between the Soviets and the European Empires, with the Americans as Soviet allies. I'm guessing that the Europeans will end up in a protracted Cold War that they will eventually lose.
 

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The sense I get is that.
  1. Roy Cohn is a Radical Progressive, which we can safely infer means a big fan of the Soviets, which means his takes on the UK can likely be taken with a grain of salt.
  2. The UK is, however, a more right-leaning country than the US. Of course, given we don’t know where the US will land at the end of the day, this could well mean the UK is in a similar political place to the OTL 70’s.
  3. I fully expect the US Foreign Policy to be deeply schizophrenic, with different administrations tacking in radically different directions and the long-suffering Diplomats and Bureaucrats at State and War trying desparately to reign in the various political appointments. Of course, constant political purges, internal flame wars between Anglophiles and Russophiles, spies gumming up the works, and all of that fun stuff means that even though there would generally be more and better Government jobs IOTL, Foreign Policy tends to attract the masochistic, the too adventerous for their own good, and those trying to subvert the works for their own narrow ends. Fun...
 

Bulldoggus

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I don't think it will be outright fascism. The timeline thus far has been setting up a conflict between the Soviets and the European Empires, with the Americans as Soviet allies. I'm guessing that the Europeans will end up in a protracted Cold War that they will eventually lose.
My prediction (see the above) is that the US will be a wildcard.
 
My prediction (see the above) is that the US will be a wildcard.
Personally I think the main cleavage in American foreign policy is going to be between pro-Soviet Internationalists and anti-Soviet Isolationists. Relations with the Soviets are already well-established and entrenched and the sort of jarring foreign policy change from actively supporting the Soviets to opposing them whenever an administration changes would be too extreme and beyond the acceptable boundaries of post-Great Recover politics. There's also the fact that the anti-Soviet left are going to be as, if not more, opposed to the European Empires as they are the Soviets. Isolationism would provide a unified platform that Republicans, Socialists, anti-war activists and moderate Progressives would be able to stand on.
 
I think there won’t really be one main line of cleavage, but a great deal of them. Foreign policy will be one (with a great deal of intermediate positions), but so will economic policy (having been brought to the forefront by the Great Depression) and civil rights. In particular, with presidential elections being run with an odd version of instant-runoff, many political positions will emerge in politics. Eventually, I think we’ll see India-style “permanent alliances”, but the keyword is eventually. For the time being, American politics may look a little like Canada in that there are realignments every few elections (ie this vs this).
 
My personal perdiction is that America will for the most part be neutral with a slight soviet lean in the cold war which will end with both the Soviets and Europeans collapsing (the soviets for having the same economic problems they had OTL and the Europeans from trying to keep up a massive gloabal empire) thus leaving America the premier global power.
 
I don't see moderate Progressives, Socialists, Republicans, the American Party, or LBJ's group looking with good eyes at the Soviet actions.
Given Britain's entrenched democratic and parliamentary tradition, I don't see the UK veering outside Democracy for long (if it really did it, there might have been reasons that might have discredited the Monarchy, unless the Formerly United Kingdom means a dissolution of that country and not a republic).
 
I don't see moderate Progressives, Socialists, Republicans, the American Party, or LBJ's group looking with good eyes at the Soviet actions.
Given Britain's entrenched democratic and parliamentary tradition, I don't see the UK veering outside Democracy for long (if it really did it, there might have been reasons that might have discredited the Monarchy, unless the Formerly United Kingdom means a dissolution of that country and not a republic).

I'm guessing it's a dictatorship followed by complete collapse of the Empire/UK proper (England, Scotland, Wales independent, Ireland united)
 

Bulldoggus

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Ok guys, “formerly united” could just mean political splits. I mean, IOTL there’s a sharp political divide between Scotland, Wales, the Northern Cities, and the rest of England (and that isn’t even taking Norn Iron into account). And let’s not forget that Roy Cohn is by nature both an attack dog and in inveterate liar. Grain of salt, folks.
 
The Progressive Nomination
The Progressive Nomination
Following Wallace's collapse in the polls, the Progressive nomination became wide open. Many expected Philip La Follette would win, given his brother's win in the nomination in 1944.

La Follette Biographer Nancy Hart: "I think the La Follette dynasty had been one of the strongest progressive forces since the founding of the party. The La Follette brothers were the last of the Founding Fathers of the Progressive-Farm-Labor party to really have a shot at the nomination. A lot of people remembered Fighting Bob." Images of the original Robert La Follette "However, there was a lot of negative press regarding the idea of a 'dynasty'. Philip had been governor for eight years, and Senator for another eight years. His career was separate from his brother's, but many people believed nominating the same family twice in a row would seem dynastic."

Historian Kyle Anderson, PhD: "The La Follette machine was very powerful in Wisconsin and very influential and popular in the Midwest. I think he assumed that this popularity would carry into other urban areas, that other industrial unions would back their strong ally."

Brien McMahon's victory in New Jersey put an end to that idea. It became clear that La Follette would not be able to sweep the Northeast like his brother had achieved four years previously. McMahon went on to win New York, a huge prize that assured that he would compete nationwide.

Kyle Anderson: "McMahon focused on foreign policy and the need for the United States to invest in nuclear research. However, he'd spent his career working with unions in the Northeast while also amassing the reputation as a great reformer."

Law historian James R. Hill, J.D. PhD: "McMahon's main competition in the Northeast was Justice Douglas. However, the Supreme Court battle, rather than strengthening Douglas, hurt him, as he could not comment. In a field against numerous Senators, his poll numbers dropped to a negligible level. Douglas's campaign was already controversial among judicial circles; to campaign properly would require him to do the unthinkable."

Meanwhile, the plains states were not shaping up to be strong La Follette territory either.

Nancy Hart: "La Follette had hoped that as Wallace's support fell, he would regain rural voters who would be unwilling to vote for a radical without Wallace's long record supporting agriculture. He didn't anticipate that the charge of being part of an elite dynasty would not play well to many people in rural areas, especially poorer people."

The results of the North Dakota primary were unwelcome to LaFollette; Glen H. Taylor won the primary with the radical supporters of Wallace rallying around him and the moderates moving to Senator Joshua Lee.

Kyle Anderson: "Lee had support among moderate, rural Progressives. He hoped that as Senator from Oklahoma, he could sweep the South and would be in a good position going into a divided convention."

Historian Martin Luther King Jr., PhD: "Lee simply failed to anticipate the dramatic turnout of newly enfranchised Afro-American voters in the South. He assumed they would be in the minority, even with the southern Progressive parties always having been incredibly small. However, black voters turned out and voted for their greatest champion in the Senate, Glen H. Taylor."

Nancy Hart: "La Follette had anticipated that Elmer Benson would serve as a drag on Taylor in the midwest and Claude Pepper in the South. Taylor's huge lead among the Afro-American vote created a situation where he could not lose in the Deep South. Lee, Pepper, and La Follette split the white vote in the Upper South and let Taylor win Virginia, Tennessee, North Carolina, and Kentucky."

Kyle Anderson: "Taylor managed to gain some white support in the Upper South as well. His folksy rural charm played well among rural Progressives across the nation, and in parts of the South that were less racially polarized than the Deep South, he won over a few votes. Not many, but enough to win Kentucky."

With the Florida Primary too late to swing the election, Claude Pepper dropped out of the race and endorsed Taylor. The contest quickly became a "stop Taylor" strategy among the remaining candidates. However, Taylor's victories in Texas and Kansas knocked Joshua Lee out of the race.

Nancy Hart: "McMahon and La Follette both staying in the race trying to be the more industrial, union, urban candidate, each running a national, rather than regional, campaign, led to them splitting the vote in several states. Losing North Dakota was annoying. Losing California was concerning. Losing Missouri was very alarming and losing Illinois was simply cataclysmic for the La Follette campaign."

The predicted split of the radicals simply never materialized. Elmer Benson's campaign, for all the media coverage it attracted, never managed to actually attain substantial electoral support.

Kyle Anderson: "Benson was not too radical for the Progressive base. However, even Progressives who liked him admitted that he was simply unelectable." Footage of Benson giving aggressive speeches. "They knew that he would not only fail to win the election, but that if he was nominated, it would lead to a split in the Progressive party."

A photograph of Senator Benson meeting Grand Marshal Tukhachevsky in early 1947, shaking his hand in front of the giant, ornate Palace of the Soviets.

Historian Marsha Spielberg, PhD:
"Benson was seen as a dangerous radical, while paradoxically Floyd Olson was seen as a popular hero. Benson was not particularly more radical on policy than his mentor, other than being much more openly pro-Soviet. And Olson had run a very aggressive campaign full of alarming rhetoric in 1932 as well. The difference was that during the Depression, anger was much more widespread, nearly universal in the electorate." Footage of hundreds of thousands gathering for Floyd Olson rallies plays. People can be seen carrying huge banners, defiantly holding their fists in the air, and burning and/or beheading effigies of President Mellon and General Douglas MacArthur One sign holds a checklist, with Morrow and Coolidge's names checked off and Mellon's name below, with writing saying "One more to go". "By 1948, that anger simply was not present. The small post-war recession of 1946 and 1947 was over, the country was at peace again, and the Olson legacy was intact. There was a lot of frustration and concerns about the debt and inflation. But there simply was no appetite for Benson's destructive, revolutionary rhetoric."

Kyle Anderson: "Taylor swept the west, and he swept the South, and while he lost almost every contest in the Midwest and Northeast, he managed strong second and third place finishes with his coalition of Afro-American and rural voters, demonstrating that he had a true nationwide appeal - the only Progressive candidate to do so."

Glen H. Taylor failed to win an outright majority of delegates, but he was so close that it was clear no one could possibly beat him. He was nominated on the second ballot, and chose Pennsylvania Governor Francis J. Myers as his running mate.

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Glen Taylor, receiving Henry Wallace's endorsement in a rally before the convention after reconciling from Wallace's attacks earlier in the primary.​

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