John Edwards- great hair, empty skull, and a missing spine.
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The best assessment of him I've heard yet. Absolutely. A total scumbag. I remember my grandmother being so horrified by the scandal that she was hoping it'd be untrue, not because she was an Edwards supporter (quite the contrary - she wanted Newt and later Fred Thompson in '08), but because it was simply unfathomable to her that someone, even a politician, could be that big of a douche.John Edwards- great hair, empty skull, and missing spine.
I will indulge you a few more posts since I’m enjoying this.The best assessment of him I've heard yet. Absolutely. A total scumbag. I remember my grandmother being so horrified by the scandal that she was hoping it'd be untrue, not because she was an Edwards supporter (quite the contrary - she wanted Newt and later Fred Thompson in '08), but because it was simply unfathomable to her that someone, even a politician, could be that big of a douche.
Edit: Sorry if this is current politics - I am going to end this timeline's phase after the 2008 election and move everything that follows it to a second thread in Chat. If I could just be indulged for, like, a handful more updates, I'd really appreciate it. We're close to Bush III/Kerry's second term/the inevitable Jesse Ventura Greenslide,
My Grandma was a trip. She would like someone (politically - personally she was not two faced at all) and turn on them on a dime if they did something that let down the broader conservative movement. For example, she had every book Ann Coulter ever published in her apartment, but when Ann Coulter turned on Trump, my grandma literally said, without a hint of irony, that "she never liked her anyway."I will indulge you a few more posts since I’m enjoying this.
Curious what grandma Space Spy’s take on Newt’s colored history with sick wives and adultery was, then, if she (very understandably) reacted as such to Edwards’ douchebaggery
Perry’s oops fiasco only happened because he was high out of his mind on painkillers after the back surgery that delayed his entry in 2011; I always thought he’d have been a pretty formidable candidate in his own right, and Team Obama agreed - he was the ‘12 candidate they thought they had the biggest risk of losing to.My Grandma was a trip. She would like someone (politically - personally she was not two faced at all) and turn on them on a dime if they did something that let down the broader conservative movement. For example, she had every book Ann Coulter ever published in her apartment, but when Ann Coulter turned on Trump, my grandma literally said, without a hint of irony, that "she never liked her anyway."
I was a big Ron Paul guy in 2012, so I was always trying to get her on board. She liked Paul, but was still convinced that the Bush era GOP foreign policy was not totally, 100% discredited - not yet, at least - so she was more inclined to a hawkish candidate. Her sister up in Pennsylvania didn't like Santorum, Paul was too pro-marijuana/anti-war, Mitt was a moderate, and so that left her with Newt. I can't really recall what she thought about the 2008 candidates (I was 10/11/12 years old during that cycle) as much, other than that she wanted Newt to run at the time. She was a daily Fox News viewer from the day the network went on the air to the day she died, which had a yuge role in her political outlook.
She was actually a big Rick Perry supporter initially. She literally used to refer to him as "her boyfriend." But Perry was out of the race by the Florida primary, and thus Newt was the last man standing. She was an enthusiastic Trump supporter from the day he came down the elevator, which was funny, because she had previously planned to support Perry again even after the "oops" fiasco. Kinda ironic that Trump won her support by launching his campaign with an opening salvo against Perry, claiming that the Texas Governor "sweated like a dog" during his announcement speech and later cracked that "Perry only wears glasses to make people think he's smart." IIRC, Perry was the first guy out in 2015.
God do I miss her.
Dang I miss Grandma NSS tooMy Grandma was a trip. She would like someone (politically - personally she was not two faced at all) and turn on them on a dime if they did something that let down the broader conservative movement. For example, she had every book Ann Coulter ever published in her apartment, but when Ann Coulter turned on Trump, my grandma literally said, without a hint of irony, that "she never liked her anyway."
I was a big Ron Paul guy in 2012, so I was always trying to get her on board. She liked Paul, but was still convinced that the Bush era GOP foreign policy was not totally, 100% discredited - not yet, at least - so she was more inclined to a hawkish candidate. Her sister up in Pennsylvania didn't like Santorum, Paul was too pro-marijuana/anti-war, Mitt was a moderate, and so that left her with Newt. I can't really recall what she thought about the 2008 candidates (I was 10/11/12 years old during that cycle) as much, other than that she wanted Newt to run at the time. She was a daily Fox News viewer from the day the network went on the air to the day she died, which had a yuge role in her political outlook.
She was actually a big Rick Perry supporter initially. She literally used to refer to him as "her boyfriend." But Perry was out of the race by the Florida primary, and thus Newt was the last man standing. She was an enthusiastic Trump supporter from the day he came down the elevator, which was funny, because she had previously planned to support Perry again even after the "oops" fiasco. Kinda ironic that Trump won her support by launching his campaign with an opening salvo against Perry, claiming that the Texas Governor "sweated like a dog" during his announcement speech and later cracked that "Perry only wears glasses to make people think he's smart." IIRC, Perry was the first guy out in 2015.
God do I miss her.
And he embezzled campaign funds to cover the whole affair up, IIRC.With regards to Edwards, it's one thing to cheat on your wife--hell, many politicians and famous people (and ordinary people) in many countries have done it. It's another to have a child with your lover--many politicians (look at French president Francois Mitterrand, for instance) and others have done so.
To do both, while your wife (and the mother of your children) is dying of cancer is a whole new level of asshole (and, to make it worse, have your chief aide claim that he's the father of the child--if I had been that aide, I would have told him to shove it, and then my next call would have been to the Washington Post or New York Times)...
Oh, that's the icing on the cake, isn't it?And he embezzled campaign funds to cover the whole affair up, IIRC.
That was quite the Wikipedia rabbit hole. Dear lordOh, that's the icing on the cake, isn't it?
The only thing worse would be if he'd tried to hire a hitman to take out his wife or mistress or killed either one himself; that's already happened in Canada, when a Canadian politician, Colin Thatcher, was convicted of murdering his ex-wife, JoAnn, after a bitter divorce and custody fight...
Nope that just have to be truly a member of militia like war veterans or national guard, something should have been done OTL.Holy shit. SCOTUS really did just say "2nd Amendment is meaningless"
Oh god Edwards fucking this up for Kerry is a real possibility, isn't it? Or if not here, then definitely when it comes to midterms and the 2012 election. Can't wait to see who Jeb picks to be his vice-president.