Miscellaneous >1900 (Alternate) History Thread
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If Ronald Reagan never ran for President in 1980 would George H.W. Bush have won the Republican nomination and could he have beaten Jimmy Carter?
For context, I am working on a TL that involves an abortive attempt at revolution in 1929, in the steel belt, which doesn't succeed in gaining state-level support or overtaking the federal government, but creates an environment which causes the U.S. to break into a warlord period of sorts, in the 30s, which ends in the early 1950s.
I'm looking to get ahold of, like, maps of US rail lines in 1929. I've found three decent maps, but two of them are from other years(1910 and 1990), and the third is barely legible, because of jpeg compression, and I am not sure how to change the format on mobile. I was wondering if I could get any help in that effort?
I'm sorry if I'm posting in the wrong place, it's been over a year since I was last active here, and I've kinda forgot the proper place for posting certain things. If I am, could someone direct me to the right place? Lol
I'm looking to get ahold of, like, maps of US rail lines in 1929. I've found three decent maps, but two of them are from other years(1910 and 1990), and the third is barely legible, because of jpeg compression, and I am not sure how to change the format on mobile. I was wondering if I could get any help in that effort?
I'm sorry if I'm posting in the wrong place, it's been over a year since I was last active here, and I've kinda forgot the proper place for posting certain things. If I am, could someone direct me to the right place? Lol
If Tsar Nicholas II died in July 1904 due to a hunting accident or for some other reason, how would Russian history be affected by the Tsar's early death?
Short of making a dedicated post about rail line maps I would think this is as good a place as any.
As for the maps themselves I can't think of any sources off the top of my head. But someone may be able to.
This 1929 one is sold out but you can zoom in on the listing if you want to check details: https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/252...how_sold_out_detail=1&ref=nla_listing_details
Alternatively, here's a 1921 one on the USA Library of Congress site, which you can download in various formats: https://www.loc.gov/resource/g3701p.ct002021/
I'm Working on a TL set in 1932 however quite a few things things that happened during the 1800s where different. The only thing I'm having the most issues with is China/Qing for lore in 1911-1932 for what happened to it during that time before the TL set inyear starts. The only change that happened Qing lore wise in 1870s was taking back the rest of Manchuria besides the Sakalin part due to the Russian Revolution of 1870.
Grey Wolf
Donor
Michael would be regent, but Russia would already be at war with Japan. It probably really depends on whether his personal actions can change things, even if just with regards to revolution in Russia - I mean he would be less likely to order troops to fire on protestors, not having the same "divine right" mania.
Longer-term his period in charge would be finite since he would know that Alexei is going to reach his majority eventually so he would focus more on being a chief executive for Russia, rather than a dynast.
What if Australia picked something more fun than dollar?
"The winning name for our new currency is 'Money McMoneyFace' ..."
So after a conversation on the Alternate Aircraft of Nations Thread I started a game Here where you are the defense minister of a made up European country in the mid 30s picking equipment for your nations armed forces. Army, navy and air force. Check it out if you like.
Okay guys, so I'm new here to alternatehistory.com (and alternate histories as well) and I will give some sort of simplified version of my old alternate history, but I'm here not just for sharing words, but also for plausibility check. Apologies if I posted this in a wrong thread.
This ATL, possibly diverted from our universe in 1945, where a successful July plot takes place, Germany falls into a some kind of Civil War and so on, in the end Germany signed peace terms with the Allies, prevented 44 years of German division.
Soviet Union was "not satisfied with their gains in Europe", switches towards the East. The Soviets enters the war with Japan earlier than IOTL, manages to occupy Hokkaido and the whole Korean peninsula.The war ends with the atomic bombing of Kyoto and the initial Japanese instrument of surrender.
European colonial empires still exist until the late 70 s, But Britain and France manages to form some sort of Confederation or Union with their former colonies of British Commonwealth and French Union respectively.
The Chinese Civil War still occurs, with Communist still winning, but the direct involvement of the United States, resulted in ROC controlling Taiwan and Hainan (I don't know if this realistic enough).
Europe is less tense than IOTL, but with Bucharest Pact and NATO being formed, tension do still exist. Meanwhile in Asia, (just for the sake of simplicity, there are details, but I'm not going to that for a while) here are some bullet points that will help:
- Sino Soviet split never happens (or happens just on a smaller scale). The whole Korean Peninsula is under the Socialist Republic of Korea.
- Japan is split between two: Japanese Federation and (Hokkaido) Japanese Workers Republic.
- Vietnam War stagnates/or resulting in Northern victory (originally it's stagnant, resulting in a Korean-like situation, which originally I intended to switch Korea with Vietnam, Korea united under a communist state, while Vietnam divided with Communist North and Capitalist South)
- Socialist governments in Laos, Cambodia, and Burma. Thailand is heavily supported by the US, various MRBM facilities are already there.
- India slowly fell under Socialist influence, but never became a part of the alliance due to the rivalry with China over the Himalayan borders.
- Xinjiang and Mongolia are annexed by the Soviet Union.
The Middle East:
- Iranian Revolution still occurs, but this ended with a Secular Republic being in control. The new Iranian Republic later being a neutral state and acts as a some kind of buffer zone with the Soviet Union.
Right above is the alliance map of the world in 1970's according to my TL.
Everything was good until I decided to swap Egypt with Libya, basically making the UAR survives but fell into a civil war later in the 2000's. And I also decided to make Gaddafi controls Libya pass 2010's, unfortunately I didn't know the exact cause, because my old MS Word script file kinda corrupted. Also seeing some of alternate histories, I decided to... Uhh.. Make a Mesopotamian Union.
Actually, my prediction for this alternate Middle East is nothing more than a vague thoughts, except for Iran I think.
In Africa, Soviet Union and the West decided to divide the continent. With little gains in Europe, Soviet Union began to focusing itself more in Third World Countries as well as East Asia. Until this time, I'm not decided yet for what countries that could became some sort of African Economic Powerhouse in each bloc. For the West: West Africa and South Africa, but for the East: my predictions are rather vague once again, I had this in my original scenario where East Africa unites under a pro-Soviet regime (this idea is from rvbomally's "Musical Chairs: Atomic Edition").
So there's my scenario, maybe there's a lot of unrealistic things and thought-driven butterfly effects in it and I understand it. This leave me with a few questions: How my PoD will effect Middle East and Africa? Is it possible for Sino-Soviet split to happen? Or, Is Asia will be more interesting place ITTL? and various question that I have the answers to but its kinda sucks and filled with vagued predictions such as, Is 9/11 gonna happen? or Did the Soviet Union will eventually collapsed as well?
The setting of my timeline itself is at 2020.
This TL is already having some edits from the original rough scenario where Germany basically became a world power and a nuclear power comparable to that even the United States.
I think I need more researching (and more english lesson unfortunately).
This ATL, possibly diverted from our universe in 1945, where a successful July plot takes place, Germany falls into a some kind of Civil War and so on, in the end Germany signed peace terms with the Allies, prevented 44 years of German division.
Soviet Union was "not satisfied with their gains in Europe", switches towards the East. The Soviets enters the war with Japan earlier than IOTL, manages to occupy Hokkaido and the whole Korean peninsula.The war ends with the atomic bombing of Kyoto and the initial Japanese instrument of surrender.
European colonial empires still exist until the late 70 s, But Britain and France manages to form some sort of Confederation or Union with their former colonies of British Commonwealth and French Union respectively.
The Chinese Civil War still occurs, with Communist still winning, but the direct involvement of the United States, resulted in ROC controlling Taiwan and Hainan (I don't know if this realistic enough).
Europe is less tense than IOTL, but with Bucharest Pact and NATO being formed, tension do still exist. Meanwhile in Asia, (just for the sake of simplicity, there are details, but I'm not going to that for a while) here are some bullet points that will help:
- Sino Soviet split never happens (or happens just on a smaller scale). The whole Korean Peninsula is under the Socialist Republic of Korea.
- Japan is split between two: Japanese Federation and (Hokkaido) Japanese Workers Republic.
- Vietnam War stagnates/or resulting in Northern victory (originally it's stagnant, resulting in a Korean-like situation, which originally I intended to switch Korea with Vietnam, Korea united under a communist state, while Vietnam divided with Communist North and Capitalist South)
- Socialist governments in Laos, Cambodia, and Burma. Thailand is heavily supported by the US, various MRBM facilities are already there.
- India slowly fell under Socialist influence, but never became a part of the alliance due to the rivalry with China over the Himalayan borders.
- Xinjiang and Mongolia are annexed by the Soviet Union.
The Middle East:
- Iranian Revolution still occurs, but this ended with a Secular Republic being in control. The new Iranian Republic later being a neutral state and acts as a some kind of buffer zone with the Soviet Union.
Right above is the alliance map of the world in 1970's according to my TL.
Everything was good until I decided to swap Egypt with Libya, basically making the UAR survives but fell into a civil war later in the 2000's. And I also decided to make Gaddafi controls Libya pass 2010's, unfortunately I didn't know the exact cause, because my old MS Word script file kinda corrupted. Also seeing some of alternate histories, I decided to... Uhh.. Make a Mesopotamian Union.
Actually, my prediction for this alternate Middle East is nothing more than a vague thoughts, except for Iran I think.
In Africa, Soviet Union and the West decided to divide the continent. With little gains in Europe, Soviet Union began to focusing itself more in Third World Countries as well as East Asia. Until this time, I'm not decided yet for what countries that could became some sort of African Economic Powerhouse in each bloc. For the West: West Africa and South Africa, but for the East: my predictions are rather vague once again, I had this in my original scenario where East Africa unites under a pro-Soviet regime (this idea is from rvbomally's "Musical Chairs: Atomic Edition").
So there's my scenario, maybe there's a lot of unrealistic things and thought-driven butterfly effects in it and I understand it. This leave me with a few questions: How my PoD will effect Middle East and Africa? Is it possible for Sino-Soviet split to happen? Or, Is Asia will be more interesting place ITTL? and various question that I have the answers to but its kinda sucks and filled with vagued predictions such as, Is 9/11 gonna happen? or Did the Soviet Union will eventually collapsed as well?
The setting of my timeline itself is at 2020.
This TL is already having some edits from the original rough scenario where Germany basically became a world power and a nuclear power comparable to that even the United States.
I think I need more researching (and more english lesson unfortunately).
Could an Italian breakup have happened with a POD after 1920? Or is that too far-fetched? Italy does have a big north-south divide, could this be magnified into a permanent division?
Grey Wolf
Donor
So, what ARE the Soviet gains in Europe? Are these based on promises from the Western Allies or what the Soviets occupy when the Germans make peace here? I mean, specifically for example - what happens to Austria, Poland, Czechoslovakia?
You mention is a Bucharest Pact - is this intended to indicate that the Soviet satellites are only the likes of Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria?
So basically for whatever reason the First Philippine Republic got recognized by the USA and survives to WW2, they basically got very lucky and because they played the Great powers against each other, Which they did successfully, as the GP's try to aid the Philippines, to gain there influence but what they only did is play them onto each other to their benefit. Now 1941 Industrialized, having decent Infrastructure in Luzon Visayas and Mindanao and one of the Asian Great powers, and has a competent armed forces, Having an Army navy and airforce that is sizable and competent, 750k soldiers, combined from Army, navy and airforce because they started armament after the start of the 2nd Sino Japanese war . And an economy richer than Mainland Japan, Japan only richer because of colonies. Luzon has 8M people on it Visayas having 5M people and Mindanao has 3M people as they just gave land to farmers in Mindanao after the conquest of Mindanao. What happens to them, during ww2