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Between the map and the very detailed outlines this is, IMHO, some of the best India-focused content on this site. Nice job, or should I say Lai Bhaari!

I do agree with Bruce that seeing Punjab and Sindh as part of the same entity was initially weird; one of the overdone alternate history tropes when it comes to India is that Pakistan or some variant of Pakistan inevitably forms despite it forming in OTL only due to very specific circumstances. Especially in a world where there is no United India, it seems unlikely to me that Sindh would ever join a union with Punjab, at least by choice.
Thank you for the high praise!

Oh, yes, I hate that cliche, and I certainly see how that may have seemed like that. I based Sindh being part of Punjab on how Maharaja Ranjit Singh of the Sikh Empire wanted to conquer Sindh (probably to gain control over all of the Indus River trade), but didn't really get around to it before the British beat him to it. ITTL, with the British Empire having much more indirect rule over India, he does get around to doing it, and despite a fair bit of resentment to being ruled from Lahore, Sindh remains part of Punjab due to commercial links and all that.
 
Here is my submission for the cover contest.. The write-up is a lot shorter than mine usually are but hopefully the detail in the map answers any questions you might have about the world. If not, questions and comments are always appreciated.

Prophet Swap

This is a world where the centers of the Christian and Muslim faiths are switched. Here, the Moors were able to get a stronger foothold in Spain in the late 8th century and managed to push into France, and from there into Italy, Germany, and Britain. With Islamic holy warriors expanding east from the Rhine, Christianity seemed in danger in the late first millennium. This all came to an end in the middle of the 10th century, when the Qipchak hordes came out from Central Asia. Converted to the Nestorian form of Christianity by two Indian monks a century and a half earlier, the Qipchaks were devout and willing to do anything necessary to spread their faith. The Qipchaks conquests went on for more than a century and when the dust had settled, they ruled a series of states stretching from the Baltic to Egypt and had displaced the Islamic realms east of the Sinai.

Though the Qipchak overlordships would slowly fade away and the Turks were integrated into native society, the Nestorian faith remained strong. While this was occurring in the east, the Muslims of Western Europe had discovered two new continents to the west. The sea-faring Muslim powers quickly established colonies there in hopes of enriching themselves. Using the money from its prosperous colonial holdings, a particularly philosophical Emir of Greater al-Andalus devised a new theory of government based on the early Rashidun Caliphate. He wrote that it was the role of a monarch to provide for all citizens physical needs and ensure a basic level of prosperity. This theory, later called National Zakat, became popular across the world.

The modern world is one in which Islam holds the strongest position but is not totally dominant. Arabic is the language of business and science, while Islam is growing slowly but surely across the world. Of course, the Islamic world is not unified, and is divided between the more economically progressive conglomeration of various former colonies that is the United Islamic Polities on one side and the old order European states on the other. And then there are the Shias, long discriminated against but now in possession of a hefty nuclear arsenal, and the Kawnists, Muslims in the southern hemisphere that believe a green alien descended from the heavens to bring proof of many worlds with a Muhammad having existed on each one.

The Christian world is very much in the shadow of the Islamic world, and under the Christian Union, it is clear that they hope to level the playing field whether through diplomacy or through war. On the fringes of the world there are dangers in the form of rogue, angry states. China was rocked by a revolt from the Renists, a collectivist, ultranationalist faction, and while it was down, the Manchus and Buddhist Union joined in and even nuked Beijing. Finally there is the Zunbil Empire, a totalitarian state run by a priesthood committed to expansion. The Empire has flexed its muscle recently by threatening the Persians.

This is a world with good and bad, rich and poor, peaceful and warlike nations. On balance, it is not much better than our own. It is not better or worse it is just different.

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TAMED LANDS
TEN YEARS AFTER THE FLASH

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A decade ago, a bright flash of light would take four American states from different worlds and different times and place them onto a virgin earth, completely uninhabited by humans. Expansion from these areas has been slow, hampered by unrest and supply problems at home, and although there are often farms that dot the fringes of the established borders and the banks of the great American rivers and occasional short resource-gathering expeditions from companies, those who venture further out into the truly untamed wilderness either return to civilized lands or are never heard from again.


What was ISOTed?

1857 Maryland, Charles Jennings, the Army of the Delaware (from Charcolt's Hard Graft)
1867 Nicaragua, Elijah Greywater (from Charcolt's
Hard Graft)
1964 New York, Jimmy Falstaff (from Prussian1871's
A Time for Greatness)
1968 Michigan, Charles Clarence (from TransUral Empire's
Winter in America)


The Big Three

The New United States of America - While the states of Michigan and New York had been transported from different worlds, they found themselves with very similar cultures and technology levels, and they found themselves in very similar situations - while they were mostly able to keep the peace in the suburbs and urban areas, their primary metro areas of New York City and Detroit would both fall into a significant period of unrest. Due to these circumstances, representatives from both states would convene and draw out an agreement in which they would unify and form the United States, with Michigan's own president-elect Charles Clarence becoming President and New York governor Nelson Rockefeller becoming Vice President.

Although the NUSA is certainly the strongest nation on paper, it is still wracked by political divisions. A new political movement led by talk-show host Jimmy Falstaff is capturing the minds of the youth vote, drumming up anti-"establishment" sentiment as President Rockefeller tries to move past the race riots and relocations of his predecessor's tenure, while threading an uneasy path between conservatism and liberalism. More worryingly, however, the states of Michigan and New York have proven to have divergent interests, as New York tries to increase its soft power while Michigan is intent on consolidating its hold on the Great Lakes. Whether the NUSA will survive, and what will come up after a potential collapse, is up for debate.


The State of Maryland - For Maryland, the flash would come just as Charles Jennings and his Army of the Delaware were making their way to Richmond, sure that they would overthrow the tyrant Bradley. Thus, the supply issues that would have been normally encountered were confounded, with the Army of the Delaware ultimately having to gain most of their food from hunting, foraging, and fishing in the forests and ocean around Maryland. This would also lead to a somewhat awkward arrangement between Jennings and civilian governor Henry Winter Davis to control the state, that would only be made further awkward when the Navy - both the Naval Academy and similar naval vessels and a squadron from Nicaragua defecting after it declared its independence from a non-existent United States - was added into the equation, while Maryland continued to govern itself by its state constitution. Maryland would have two important achievements under Governor Davis - the signing of the Treaty of New York with the NUSA and the abolition of slavery. The situation would be cleared up after the death of Governor Davis and the subsequent election of Charles Jennings, who therefore held all of the executive power in the state.

There are large political divisions in Maryland, too, with these divisions being based on whether one was an army man, a navy man, or a civilian. The cooperation of Davis and Jennings and subsequent election of Jennings has meant that an alliance of the army and civilians has dominated Maryland, but nonetheless Jennings' recently-convened Maryland Constitutional Convention has so far been deadlocked over debate over what the government should be. While the Treaty of New York, with its assurances of peace and free trade between Maryland and NUSA, is broadly popular in Maryland, it does have its support. Most notably, however, there are many within Maryland who hold a firm distrust of the navy and its various "expeditions" to see if there's any other human-inhabited part of the world, especially since its settling of Bermuda.


La Segunda República Federal de Centroamérica - The Flash would come during the last night of Elijah Greywater's long governorship. At least in the capitol of Managua, news of the event would not come until the afternoon, by which time Greywater's successor had been sworn in as governor and Greywater was on his way to his private villa. When news had arrived, though, Greywater was urged to return to Managua. After encouraging the US Navy detachment in the Nicaragua Canal to head north to confirm shaky reports of some American presence in the Atlantic, he would promptly declare independence from the United States, declaring himself the President of the Second Republic of Central America, in a single stroke helping to reach back out to the majority-Spanish-speaking population of his new nation and establishing the pretext for rapid expansion. Greywater has cracked down on what few parts of democracy can't be overriden by his machines, and he has ensured continued Grenadier dominance of the Republic.

While Greywater's political machine, charitable acts, jingoistic expansion, and crackdown on political opposition have made him very popular within Central America itself, he is not popular with whatever semblance of an international community there is. Central America would be a pariah, if not invaded, if not for the fact that Greywater holds the strategically vital Nicaragua Canal, which allows for a much easier crossing to the Pacific, and his nation is the producer of tropical goods that are very much desired in his northern neighbors - coffee, sugar, bananas, and more, and that Central America is far away, leading to difficulties with supply. Despite Greywater's cleverness in leveraging these factors, it has not stopped his fellow nations from peacefully but actively stifling Central American influence in the Caribbean, and ensuring that Greywater cannot completely recreate the fantasies of the Golden Circle.



[1] - The lands of southern New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and New England were declared as temporarily terra nullius as a part of the Treaty of New York, to help keep the peace and prevent any border disputes from arising. The Philadelphia Route, a road and railroad jointly patrolled by Yankees and Marylanders to discourage banditry, helps connect Maryland and NUSA by land.

[2] - While the Erie Beltway breaks the terra nullius clause of the Treaty of New York, it is in line with another clause that guarantees NUSA control over the Great Lakes, and it is also yet another valuable connection between Michigan and New York.

[3]- New York is very much against Michiganian expansion to the south, which is why Michigan keeps their forays into Indiana a top secret. If this ever gets out, this would be another straw on the camel's back for NUSA.

[4]- While New Chicago is officially affiliated with the NUSA, it has become a refuge for liberals and leftists who feel out of place in the NUSA, and it has become the hub of the counter-culture movements.

[5] - Wisconsin was deemed as a territory because New York didn't really care about it and Michigan wanted more control and direct access to the Mississippi (although both it and the Ohio River were deemed as demilitarized free-trade zones by the Treaty of New York).

[6] - While it is low-priority compared to its American ventures, Michigan is interested into gaining more control over the Lake Superior region.

[7]- With no Canada to worry about, the Ontario Peninsula is the most simple connection between Michigan and New York. In the spirit of America, it was quickly declared as a third state, and as a result it would be the tie-breaker in a dispute between Michigan and New York. The north of the state is very sparsely inhabited at the moment.

[8] - The Marylander Navy secured Bermuda, and it would serve well as a general maritime hub for both the navy and fishing, so it was officially annexed into Maryland, officially under the control of naval officials. This would be the cause of concern for many Marylanders.

[9] - The Tidewater region has become a haven for fishermen who don't want to pay Maryland's taxes or be subject to its laws. However, it is safeguarded by Maryland as it is a great jumping-off point for further expansion in the South.

[10] - The Army of the Delaware's mission was to seize Northern Virginia, and many soldiers in the Army would continue in the mission. As such, the Virginia Territory would be declared, mostly inhabited (and run) by those either currently serving in or retired from the Army, which is Maryland's principle expansion other than its incorporation of all of the Delmarva peninsula and its expansion to reach the Ohio River.


[11] - A combination of more revolutionary-minded individuals, especially African-Americans, from the NUSA and freed slaves from Maryland would come to Haiti (with various levels of willingness), a state that was quickly given military and financial support by both the NUSA and Maryland to ensure that the public outrage that would come from the failure of such a venture would never happen, and to hem both the Haitians and the Central Americans in. Due to this, Haiti is surprisingly doing better than its Old World counterpart, although Voodoo has become just as popular.

[12] - Slavery is officially banned in each of the Big Three Nations, but Jamaica would become a home for those in Central America that would kidnap their former slaves (who were often working on the same plantations that they had been before emancipation due to sharecropping) to abscond to, later joined by Maryland slave owners as abolition was very close to becoming a reality. While this slave state is hated by most, especially Haiti, it is propped up by Greywater to help him gain influence in the Caribbean, and Haiti is held back by the NUSA and Maryland for fear of causing a war.

[13] - The Central American dream of reunifying what the nation had once held (along with the Yucatan) has not been completed yet, but many fear where Greywater will turn next.

[14] - It is common knowledge that if anyone settled Cuba it would result in war being declared by the other side, so the island remains untouched.

[15] - A bunch of wealthy New Yorkers were incensed that their winter homes had been left behind in the Flash, and they sought to rebuild it. They would quickly be given support by the NUSA, as another way of ensuring influence in the Caribbean and hemming the Central Americans in. The Bahamas has become a land of vacation resorts, summer homes, and a few scattered naval bases (which isn't too different from its status in the 1960s before the Flash).



This is my first foray into map-making - criticism is welcome!​
 
One question - why is northern New Jersey part of New York in NUSA? Especially since other states seem to have been de facto resurrected.
North New Jersey was annexed by New York to help give a cushion to NYC, it was settled primarily by New Yorkers, and it was deemed as having too small of a geographic area to be created as a state. The state of Michigan is also slightly expanded, having annexed Manitoulin and some islands in Lake Superior.
 
Keep me updated on this one.
Uh, just a bit of heads up, if you want to follow this series, don't do it on Reddit yet. Go to my DA instead.

ALL my reddit posts are being flagged as spam and thus removed, so you can't find them.

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Don't know if this problem will continue for some time.
 
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So as 2020 is now over I have finished several End of 2020 Maps.
The below shows the the political (see: governing parties and ideologies) map of the world as of Dec. 31, 2020.

A few notes;
-There are alot of cases where it's really hard to find what a party or group actually espouses or supports, as well as alot of cases where the ruling party simply has no ideology and just exists for the sake of existing/keeping the ruling group in power.
-The official ideology is what is used in most cases, so for example while China may have a de facto hybrid ideological system, it remains officially Communist (and thus shown as Far Left) and the governing elite pays at the very least lip service to the idea, so it's shown as such.

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Iori, I cannot comment on most of the world, but for Chile, the farthest groups to the right officially broke with the gorvenment.
 
So as 2020 is now over I have finished several End of 2020 Maps.
The below shows the the political (see: governing parties and ideologies) map of the world as of Dec. 31, 2020.

A few notes;
-There are alot of cases where it's really hard to find what a party or group actually espouses or supports, as well as alot of cases where the ruling party simply has no ideology and just exists for the sake of existing/keeping the ruling group in power.
-The official ideology is what is used in most cases, so for example while China may have a de facto hybrid ideological system, it remains officially Communist (and thus shown as Far Left) and the governing elite pays at the very least lip service to the idea, so it's shown as such.

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It's clear you've done a lot of research into this and it's a useful map, but is it a bit risqué given the forum's current politics rule? I'm already biting my tongue reference the UK being a bit too light blue on the map for my liking. 😬

Could be a very useful addition to the Politics forum though?

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Isn't there a conservative party in the Obligatory Finnish Coalition Mashup(TM)?
The current cabinet coalition consists of Centrists, Swedes (officially also centrists), SocDems, Far Lefts, and Greens. The plain vanilla right wingers and the far right racists have seats in the parliament, but they're not part of the government coalition.
 
The current cabinet coalition consists of Centrists, Swedes (officially also centrists), SocDems, Far Lefts, and Greens. The plain vanilla right wingers and the far right racists have seats in the parliament, but they're not part of the government coalition.
Ah, ok. I knew there was a mostly left-leaning coalition, with more conservative elements in it. I just wasn't sure how much.
 

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So as 2020 is now over I have finished several End of 2020 Maps.
The below shows the the political (see: governing parties and ideologies) map of the world as of Dec. 31, 2020.

A few notes;
-There are alot of cases where it's really hard to find what a party or group actually espouses or supports, as well as alot of cases where the ruling party simply has no ideology and just exists for the sake of existing/keeping the ruling group in power.
-The official ideology is what is used in most cases, so for example while China may have a de facto hybrid ideological system, it remains officially Communist (and thus shown as Far Left) and the governing elite pays at the very least lip service to the idea, so it's shown as such.
Been a while since you've had to get an official notice.

Keep current politics in CHAT ONLY.
 

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So as 2020 is now over I have finished several End of 2020 Maps.
The below shows the the political (see: governing parties and ideologies) map of the world as of Dec. 31, 2020.

A few notes;
-There are alot of cases where it's really hard to find what a party or group actually espouses or supports, as well as alot of cases where the ruling party simply has no ideology and just exists for the sake of existing/keeping the ruling group in power.
-The official ideology is what is used in most cases, so for example while China may have a de facto hybrid ideological system, it remains officially Communist (and thus shown as Far Left) and the governing elite pays at the very least lip service to the idea, so it's shown as such.

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Why is China far left?
 
The major religions of Europe and north africa in 1100 in the world of the map I recently posted.

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After the successful invasion of Anatolia by the Abbasids from 1105-1117 the state of the Byzantine Empire is heavily weakened. Without any substantial natural border to the east the empire falls into disarray. The overthrow of the Gaznavids in 1121 by the Karakalpaks. The new Persian dynasty ended nearly a century of peace with the Abassids and sacked the city of Baghdad in 1123 forcing the Arab armies out of Anatolia to defend the heart of the empire.

John the Athenian became emperor in 1119 in a coup overthrowing the unpopular Constantine IX. Civil unrest ensued as the Anatolian generals vied for power, many hoping to gain independence or take the empire for themselves. Basileus John was only narrowly able to prevent outright civil war. in 1125 he seized Venetian and Bulgarian goods and ships in Constantinople in order to establish a fleet and pay the armies. Nearly 13,000 Venetians and Bulgarians were imprisoned, mostly in Constantinople. John hoped to be able to ransom them back in order to get the empire out of debt. By doing this he was able to bring the Anatolian provinces back under control. An alliance with Genoa was established in 1127 further strengthening his position. He believed this alliance would deter retribution by the Bulgars and Venetians. He began to prepare for a war against the Abbasids. However, this would not occur as in 1129 an alliance between Venice and Bulgaria would invade in order to free their citizens imprisoned and recoup their losses. John was by all respects a masterful general and he was able to repel the Bulgarian army before they were able to lay siege to the capital. In response the Bulgarian armies withdrew west and took Epirus. In the battle of Ionia the only significant Byzantine army in Greece was routed and withdrew to Athens.

At sea the Venetians were able to defeat the Genoan and Byzantine fleets in the battle of Ithaca in 1130. The Venetian armies blockaded Ithaca and Zante while their armies took Morea without much resistance.

Even though most of Greece had been taken John's army was still very much intact but could not leave Thrace as it would leave Constantinople undefended. He sent what reinforcements he could to the forces in Athens who attempted to catch the Bulgarian by surprise. The army crossed the Aoos and met the Bulgarian army south of Prilep. The battle was a failure and most of the army was captured. In late 1134 John received news of the defeat and surrendered. In 1135 the Treaty of Venice was signed giving much of Greece to the Bulgarians and Venetians. John was removed as emperor but was allowed to continue to rule as the despotate of Athens. Genoa was forced to surrender the Ionian islands to Venice. Emperor Peter II of Bulgaria attempted to put his brother on the Byzantine crown however objections by the Venetians the Mesopotamitai dynasty was put into power and Theodore Mesopotamites was crowned emperor and was married to the daughter of Peter II, Mariika.

As a result of this war the Bulgarian empire was indisputably the pre-eminent orthodox power in Europe. The Duchy of Tarantino began to grow closer to the Bulgarians than the Byzantines as they were now much too weak to offer any protection. The Duke ceased to pay tributary to the Byzantines in 1138. As a result of this Europe began to grow weary of the Bulgarian power. This tension would soon come to a head.
 
So as 2020 is now over I have finished several End of 2020 Maps.
The below shows the the political (see: governing parties and ideologies) map of the world as of Dec. 31, 2020.

A few notes;
-There are alot of cases where it's really hard to find what a party or group actually espouses or supports, as well as alot of cases where the ruling party simply has no ideology and just exists for the sake of existing/keeping the ruling group in power.
-The official ideology is what is used in most cases, so for example while China may have a de facto hybrid ideological system, it remains officially Communist (and thus shown as Far Left) and the governing elite pays at the very least lip service to the idea, so it's shown as such.

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Why am I thinking of various flavored Candy Canes?
 
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