Stavanger 5 - The Dash to the South
Stavanger 5 - The Dash to the South

Having been left behind during the opening phases of the battle, Rear-Admiral Evan-Thomas' Fifth Battle Squadron had been able to catch up with Beatty's faster ships by avoiding his detour to the North. As the battlecruisers turned and charged South, he put his battleships on an interception course to bring them behind the ships of 1BCS.
As the new squadron swung into line and fired their first ranging shots, Admiral Hipper’s estimation of the situation was changing fast. He had previously held a steady course at just 22 knots, allowing for accurate gunnery and for ranges to steadily reduce. Now, however, he was completely outgunned, and he clearly needed to either withdraw or bring the enemy swiftly into contact with the High Seas Fleet. His mission was to do the later, and while his ships were still fighting, he was determined to proceed with it.
Hipper ordered 1SG to increase to 25 knots, the best possible speed that would maintain the line. He also turned a point to port, to allow the range to open between him and this dangerous new enemy. He didn’t want to allow them to think he was fleeing East, and therefore break off their southerly pursuit which was bringing them ever closer to the battlefleet. His attempt to signal Scheer as to the enemy’s strength and position was frustrated by temporary damage to Lutzow’s wireless, and it had to be flashed to Derfflinger astern for transmission.

Meanwhile, the battlecruiser squadrons continued to engage each other. One of Princess Royal’s shells punched a neat hole through Moltke's bow which did no real damage, before on the next salvo, A-turret was hit squarely in the middle of its face. The shell failed to penetrate but exploded as it entered, shattering the plate, blowing both guns out of their cradles and starting a fire that blazed through the turret and down into the working chamber, killing everyone inside. A further hit right aft sent links of anchor chain hurtling out into the sea, and started a small fire, but again little real damage was done to the fighting efficiency of the ship.
Repulse's gunners had finally realised that both they and Indefatigable were engaging the last ship in the German line, and so they shifted their target to the Goeben, bringing the German ship under fire for the first time in the battle. In the next few minutes, they scored two hits on the German ship, both amidships and just underwater on the belt. The immense 15" shells failed to penetrate, but shock from the two impacts, which were within 11' of each other, stove in plates and broke rivets in dozens of seams, leading to water steadily flowing into coal bunkers.
Indefatigable's shooting at Von der Tann finally registered a couple of hits, although the only significant damage was to the rearmost port 5.9" gun, which was put out of action by splinters. Quick work by the German battlecruiser’s crew had controlled her stokehold fires, and men were taken from her secondary guns to help redistribute coal to the other boiler rooms, allowing their crews to keep her remaining furnaces burning fiercely. Even with two boilers out of action, the ship just managed to keep up with the line, helped by the fact that the ships ahead were themselves no longer capable of reaching their maximum speeds.

In the rear of the British line, the Fifth Battle Squadron were slightly closer to the German ships, as the battlecruisers had pulled slightly ahead as Admiral Beatty attempted to cut off the German line of retreat. Rear-Admiral Evan-Thomas ordered that his squadron engage the rear of the German line, meaning his flagship HMS Barham fired at SMS Derfflinger, bringing her under fire for the first time since the destruction of the Queen Mary. At just over 15,000 yards, the long-baseline rangefinders and accurate guns of the fast battleships soon found their targets, and after a few ranging shots, Barham scored two hits in her first half-dozen full salvos. The first exploded on the armour deck above the battery, sending splinters inside. With the German secondary guns firing fast, exposed charges were ignited and the entire starboard forward battery was soon ablaze. The second 15” shell exploded near Derfflinger’s C barbette, inside the ship where the armour was just 3.9" thick. Splinters entered the workings of the turret, wrecking machinery, although mercifully there was no fire. Nevertheless, with the turret out of action and the secondary battery ablaze just a few feet away, no chances were taken, and the order was given to flood C-turret’s magazine.
Malaya's fire on Seydlitz was equally accurate, although the results were not so effective. One shell exploded harmlessly against the armour belt amidships, while another burst on D-turret's barbette. The shock shattered the armour plate and disrupted operations inside, but the effects didn’t enter the ship and the turret was back in action a few minutes later. The rest of 5BS had less time to find the range, and their total effect was a shell that burst on Goeben's foc'sle deck amidships, resulting in scars and small fires, but little real damage.

Ranges between the battlecruisers now began to open more rapidly as Beatty pulled ahead. Nevertheless, the duel between the flagships continued. Lion drew blood from Hipper's flagship as a 13.5" shell penetrated one of her 5.9" casemates and exploded inside the battery. As had happened on her sister a few minutes earlier, the shrapnel ignited charges but this time the effects were worse as the complete port battery was burnt out, claiming the lives of 75 of her crew, while smoke from the blaze began to make sighting difficult for gunlayers in her aft turrets. Another hit aft, penetrating the weak belt and opening up a hole near her shafts, while a shell shattered on C barbette, but the splinters wrecked a nearby anti-aircraft gun.

Up to this point, Lutzow's shooting had been excellent. A hit aft of Lion's belt caused leaks near her shafts and rudders, although armour kept the steering gear itself safe. Another went straight through at the joint of her aft 4" and 5" belts, then through the slope of the armour deck, before coming to rest halfway through the 1.5" torpedo bulkhead that protected the magazines. Mercifully, it didn't explode; if it had, Lion would have been blown to pieces. A third shell was kept out by the 9" belt, although leaks started around unsupported plate edges, while another hit entered the water and exploded as it hit the 5" belt forward of X turret, breaking seams and allowing water into a hydraulic pump room and the port engine room.
The German flagship’s shooting then began to deteriorate due to the smoke of her fires obscuring rangefinders in her aft turrets, and the only hit she scored in the subsequent few minutes was deflected by Lion's 9" armour. However, on the British ship, the effects of earlier fire were starting to be felt, as X-turret lost electrical and hydraulic power as flooding continued to increase aft.

Over the next few minutes, there was further flooding in Panther’s wing compartments and Moltke’s bow as shells struck home. Repulse lost her Q-turret and the magazine was flooded, but in return her fire killed almost everyone on Goeben’s bridge as a 15” shell hit the compass platform.

With the range now down to as little as 14,500 yards, 5BS were now all engaged with the German line. Barham's fire opened a hole on the waterline just forward of Derfflinger's A-turret, while Seydlitz's unlucky D-turret was hit square on. It had only just resumed firing but was now wrecked as the 15" shell smashed the faceplate, igniting everything in the trunk and turret and sending a jet of white flame up higher than her masts. Below, frantic crewmen tried to escape the flames, allowing them to spread into E turret's trunk. Although the fire there was less spectacular, it rapidly moved up into the turret, disabling that out too. Seydlitz was now down to just her four wing guns.
Although neither of the two shells exploded, Valiant's hits on Moltke added to the ships problems as the shock of the heavy projectiles shook her up, while even a dud shell nonetheless added to the leaks and holes forward of A-turret. Warspite continued to straddle, but the Goeben proved an elusive target, while the Royal Oak landed four heavy blows on the little Von der Tann. The first penetrated her aft belt, wrecking her remote steering and causing leaks in a dozen small compartments. The next went over the main belt and exploded near D turret barbette, sending splinters into the trunk below. Smouldering propellant soon developed into a full-blown fire, but by that time the magazine had been flooded and even the turret's crew had time to escape the flames. A third hit on the bow destroyed two of the worthless 88mm guns, while the fourth didn’t explode but did punch a series of holes in the extreme stern of the ship, adding slightly to the flooding there.

By now, the German reply was becoming noticeably weaker and less accurate than it had been in the devastating opening minutes of the battle. Princess Royal's luck held as two shells that struck her failed to penetrate or explode, with one defeated by X barbette's armour and the other by the belt. The only serious damage was to Repulse, as an 11" shell went over her belt and exploded inside the ship, sending fragments into her No.4 boiler room. Despite steam leaks, stokers were able to shut off oil valves and steam lines as a damage control team fought the fires. The boiler room was out of action, but with four others still working, the powerful ship could easily keep her place in the line.

If the Battle Cruiser Fleet had been given another fifteen or twenty minutes, they could perhaps have finished off Hipper’s squadron, but at 5.08, HMS Cordelia was seen signalling the flagship. Through the haze and smoke, it was not until 5.12 that her message was received and rushed to Admiral Beatty. He suspected what it would say, and the timing was almost more important than the message. His scouts had been well-placed to starboard and ahead of the line, and had signalled,
‘Enemy battlefleet sighted, bearing Southwest’.
 
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Thought I was getting a bit bogged down in description of who hit what in the middle of that last chapter, so some of what happened to the battlecruisers was summarised. If you want all the details, here they are:
Derfflinger's fire on Panther resulted in the flooding of wing compartments abreast B-turret and damage to her aft 4" battery. Panther was also having fire-control problems, and her fire on Seydlitz was ineffective for the next few minutes.

Rather than continue doubling up, SMS Seydlitz turned her fire towards the new threats aft. Her Captain chose HMS Malaya as his target, and it was not long before the battlecruiser was straddling the fast battleship.

Her half-sister Moltke hit Princess Royal again, but damage was limited to her boats and her port crane. In return, Princess Royal's scored against Moltke, penetrating the forward belt and opening yet more holes, while wrecking most of what damage control crews had done to try to seal bulkheads from a previous hit. Water started to pour into more compartments in the battlecruiser's bow, while shock from a hit on the belt led to loss of power in several midships compartments.

Repulse suffered worse, as her Q-turret was put out of action by a hit from Goeben, which penetrated the roof and exploded inside, killing everyone and sending a flash down to the working room below. The pressure pulse was felt even at the bottom of the hoist, and the threat of fire outside the magazine prompted the crew to flood it, leaving the ship with just 5 guns (the port gun of B-turret was also out of action due to a fault in the turret). However, Repulse's return of fire was equally deadly, as she hit Goeben just below the bridge, killing almost everyone there.

Despite having power and lighting problems throughout the ship, Von der Tann’s fire continued unabated, although not particularly accurately, as HMS Indefatigable was hit only by splashes and splinters from a few near misses.
 

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Smouldering cordite soon developed into a full-blown fire
Minor point, but German ships did not use Cordite. They used RP C/12. Note the different chemical compositions compared to the Royal Navy's Cordite charges:

RP C/12
Era: 1912
Use: Naval Guns
Composition:

64.13% nitrocellulose
29.77% nitroglycerine
5.75% centralite
0.25% magnesium oxide
0.10% graphite.

Cordite RDB
Era: World War I
Flame Temperature: 3,218 K
Composition:

52% Nitrocellulose
42% Nitroglycerin
6% Mineral Jelly (Vaseline)
 
Thought I was getting a bit bogged down in description of who hit what in the middle of that last chapter, so some of what happened to the battlecruisers was summarised. If you want all the details, here they are:
Derfflinger's fire on Panther resulted in the flooding of wing compartments abreast B-turret and damage to her aft 4" battery. Panther was also having fire-control problems, and her fire on Seydlitz was ineffective for the next few minutes.

Rather than continue doubling up, SMS Seydlitz turned her fire towards the new threats aft. Her Captain chose HMS Malaya as his target, and it was not long before the battlecruiser was straddling the fast battleship.

Her half-sister Moltke hit Princess Royal again, but damage was limited to her boats and her port crane. In return, Princess Royal's scored against Moltke, penetrating the forward belt and opening yet more holes, while wrecking most of what damage control crews had done to try to seal bulkheads from a previous hit. Water started to pour into more compartments in the battlecruiser's bow, while shock from a hit on the belt led to loss of power in several midships compartments.

Repulse suffered worse, as her Q-turret was put out of action by a hit from Goeben, which penetrated the roof and exploded inside, killing everyone and sending a flash down to the working room below. The pressure pulse was felt even at the bottom of the hoist, and the threat of fire outside the magazine prompted the crew to flood it, leaving the ship with just 5 guns (the port gun of B-turret was also out of action due to a fault in the turret). However, Repulse's return of fire was equally deadly, as she hit Goeben just below the bridge, killing almost everyone there.

Despite having power and lighting problems throughout the ship, Von der Tann’s fire continued unabated, although not particularly accurately, as HMS Indefatigable was hit only by splashes and splinters from a few near misses.

You managed to brilliantly convey the joining of 5 BS, Beatties intention to cut off the head of Hippers line and then...dun dun dunnnnnn...the sighting of the lead ships of the HSF by HMS Cordelia...while being very concise regarding the exchange of shell fire

It was different from the OTL Run to the south and yet....so very similar. And that makes a lot of sense as aside from some changes to ships (i.e. Repulse) the same tactical and strategic challenges and technical limitations of the day apply both OTL and TTL.
 
The British still haven't introduced the Green Boy AP shells yet, have they? Damage is piling up on the German BCs, but most of it is repairable. Right now, it is resembling OTL Jutland where only Lutzow actually sank from accumulated damage and most of the HSF needed weeks to months of repairs. The British had more ships sunk outright, but most of the rest were ready to fight after a day or two.
 
Minor point, but German ships did not use Cordite. They used RP C/12. Note the different chemical compositions compared to the Royal Navy's Cordite charges:

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Quite right, that's me being lazy with naming and referring to all propellant as cordite (I have now amended the story).
The British would also have had Cordite MD in their magazines at the time, which had somewhat less nitro in it.
Post-war British 'Solventless cordite' (Cordite SC) was closer to the German pattern.
 
You managed to brilliantly convey the joining of 5 BS, Beatties intention to cut off the head of Hippers line and then...dun dun dunnnnnn...the sighting of the lead ships of the HSF by HMS Cordelia...while being very concise regarding the exchange of shell fire

It was different from the OTL Run to the south and yet....so very similar. And that makes a lot of sense as aside from some changes to ships (i.e. Repulse) the same tactical and strategic challenges and technical limitations of the day apply both OTL and TTL.
Glad to hear it. Thank you.

I debated whether to try to re-fight Jutland with only minor changes for this story, or to try something totally different (e.g. a second Dogger Bank, with the GF and HSF intervening).
As you rightly say, I have gone for something in between, and I'm glad that is coming across so far.
 
The British still haven't introduced the Green Boy AP shells yet, have they? Damage is piling up on the German BCs, but most of it is repairable. Right now, it is resembling OTL Jutland where only Lutzow actually sank from accumulated damage and most of the HSF needed weeks to months of repairs. The British had more ships sunk outright, but most of the rest were ready to fight after a day or two.
No, the story's British shells are still in their original, flawed condition.
So far, the vitals of the German ships are still in pretty good condition (as OTL), but there's some troublesome flooding here and there. British shells are showing their real-life tendency to explode in the armour, not behind it, while the German shells penetrate, but are a little more reluctant to explode. Damage to turrets is another matter, as they can't have the same depth of protection, and even a broken 15" shell still carries a lot of momentum and creates splinters.
Overall, Hipper is a bit worse off than he was at the end of the real 'run to the south', as he only has an extra ship, whereas Beatty has about 25% more firepower than in reality, and mildly better gunnery (albeit a little slower firing).
 
No, the story's British shells are still in their original, flawed condition.
So far, the vitals of the German ships are still in pretty good condition (as OTL), but there's some troublesome flooding here and there. British shells are showing their real-life tendency to explode in the armour, not behind it, while the German shells penetrate, but are a little more reluctant to explode. Damage to turrets is another matter, as they can't have the same depth of protection, and even a broken 15" shell still carries a lot of momentum and creates splinters.
Overall, Hipper is a bit worse off than he was at the end of the real 'run to the south', as he only has an extra ship, whereas Beatty has about 25% more firepower than in reality, and mildly better gunnery (albeit a little slower firing).
Plus Repulse isn't likely to blow up unless she's hit in the magazine's since she's so new that the safety interlocks for the turrets are still there
 
The real question now is do the BCF and 5th Battle Squadron have the speed to evade the high seas fleet(some ships do have some rather serious battle damage after all) and more importantly Beatty remembering to signal Evan-Thomas this critical information so he can get his command out of dodge before he gets within gun range of the German battleline
 
Plus Repulse isn't likely to blow up unless she's hit in the magazine's since she's so new that the safety interlocks for the turrets are still there
They're still there on all the other ships too. One of the lessons of TTL Dogger Bank was that steady, methodical firing works.
On the other hand, they're now in much closer range action and are more heavily engaged.
 
Excellent stuff as always, as you said the British gunnery's getting a bit better (as would basically happen due to their ranging system) and the weight of firepower's going to tell if the Germans keep taking 15-inch gunfire. Even an inert shell is going to pack a wallop.
 
Always a fan of a naval based timeline, but I haven't come across many WW1 based navy timelines before now. Consider me invested and excited for more :)
 
Great story!(adding my humble praise to everyone else's)

So, with suitable humility, and in the interests of helping give this TL the perfection it deserves, re:
Stavanger 5 - The Dash to the South

Having been left behind during the opening phases of the battle, Rear-Admiral Evan-Thomas' Fifth Battle Squadron had been able to catch up with Beatty's faster ships by avoiding the C-in-C’s detour to the North. As the battlecruisers turned and charged South, he put his battleships on an interception course to bring them behind the ships of 1BCS.
in OTL at least, even though it was the Battle Cruiser *Fleet*, it would seem, by no means inappropriately IMHO, that Beatty did not in fact enjoy C-in-C status in this command.

Rather, the online copy of Jellicoe's "The Grand Fleet", at https://www.naval-history.net/WW1Book-Adm_Jellicoe-Grand_Fleet.htm#7 at what appears to be p.203 refers to Beatty's designation as "Vice-Admiral Commanding the Battle Cruiser Fleet".

Cheers, and keep up the great work!
 
Beatty tended to view the BCF as the Independent Battlecruiser Force and basically the only people he answered to was the Admiralty and Jellico, but the BCF was very much his command.
 
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