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I assumed the rump state would incorporate Welsh designs to save face. One option would be a red cross on a white and green field, while the other could be a red or yellow cross on a black field.
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I assumed the rump state would incorporate Welsh designs to save face. One option would be a red cross on a white and green field, while the other could be a red or yellow cross on a black field.
Okay, that's a little different. Give me a few hours (some RL things to do first).
another possibilty would be to go for the old anglo-saxon kingdoms (mercia, wessex, northumberland) + wales to try and show some historical legitimacy.
Also, @Višeslav, can you change it so that Ireland as a whole is part of the UK? My plan is for Ireland to achieve home rule and devolved government within the UK, rather than independence and partition as in OTL.
Given that England would be even more dominant in the Kingdom of England and Wales than in the UK, I can't see a flag which gives too much emphasis to Wales being adopted, so the most likely is your first option, imo.
If the situation does lead to a much stronger emphasis on Wales and an agreement that the flag of St. David can represent Wales (it was only created in 1921), then there are various ways to combine the red-on-white and yellow-on-black crosses.
The flag could be a half-and-half split, left/right or top/bottom, or quartered - but they look a bit too amateurish, I think, to be accepted as a new national flag.
Then there's layering the flags of St. George and St. David over each other. The red cross with yellow fimbriation on black is okay, but is quite dark and could be seen as giving, again, too much emphasis to Wales and could be compared with one of the 1919 proposals for the German flag. Putting the white background back in is possible; personally, I think it also looks too Germanic (for some reason it reminds me of a German imperial war ensign). Layering the yellow/black on top of the red/white instead works but it almost removes any English-ness, so I really couldn't see that being adopted.
If you do like any of the ones above, let me know and I'll post the full-size version. It all depends how plausible you want to be, I think. The first flag (with the green) is quite possible, imo.
That's a possibility. The cross of St. George would still be the central feature, I think, but at least the Mercian yellow-on-blue saltire could be incorporated relatively simply. The dragon of Wessex would be more difficult, as would the crenellation/counter-crenellation of Northumbria/Northumberland. I'd be intrigued to see what you could come up with, though - your flags are always good!
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Imma redo the middle east and Caucasus stuff, would you say that this blank map is high enough quality to use as a base or should I look for a better one?
Imma redo the middle east and Caucasus stuff, would you say that this blank map is high enough quality to use as a base or should I look for a better one?
Yeah, looks good. I would recommend finding a map that has Hejaz, Ha'il, Nejd, Asir, and the Mutawakkilite Kingdom of Yemen on it, because I intend for those countries to stick around for the time being. Asir and Yemen shouldn't be visible on the Europe map, but Hejaz, Ha'il, and possibly Nejd should be visible based on the angle you've been using. Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq (or Iraq minus the Assyrian state, I suppose) should already be independent by 1936 ITTL, leaving Mandatory Palestine as the only LoN Mandate in the region. Syria gets to keep Hatay, unlike OTL.
Can you add the Free State of Fiume to the map?
I'm very eager to see the next iteration of the Europe map, particularly in Eastern Europe.
There are a lot of changes to make. Imma fix the Europe map but I can't keep on making individual country maps forever. I'll do Assyria and the Caucasus, Ukraine, Belarus, Kuban, fix the Yugoslav ones to include Fiume and that's it. I have at least a bit of a life outside of making maps.
Also, I'll be using one of my unfinished maps to get the borders for Hejaz, is that ok? I used the same basemap so it should be about the same.
Yeah, that's great! I'll be all set once you finish the Europe map, I think.
Lebanon, French Morocco, Palestine, and Tunisia should be independent, while Kuwait, Transjordan, Bahrain, Qatar, and the Trucial States should be have their own colors rather than the British ones, as they were IOTL and ITTL are independent countries under British protection, not colonies. Pretty much all of this is cosmetic changes.
My idea was to have the flag represent the historical foundation of the the rump state by recalling wessex, mercia, wales and northumbria as 4 elements: the gold on black cross of st Dewis for wales, the white on red cross of St. Aldhelm for Wessex, the Gold on blue for Mercia and the red/gold bars for Northumbria.
Its...... not the prettiest thing......
There's 0% chance of it ever being mistaken for another nation at the Olympics, at least...
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Maybe just add the St piran Cornwall white cross inside the English red cross, stick the welsh dragon in there and go for a black, white or both background.
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