Did the USA not take any of Canada? I would think they would at minimum take everything west of the Rockies.
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It hasn't been recognized yet. Irish Americans are actually about to play a big role in Ireland's independence struggle.
They didn't because A.) The Americans didn't win too much in Canada (If the war lasted another few months they would have been pushed out of their foothold) and B.) Although expansionist and less racist than OTL, plenty of people would feel weird about "colonizing white man's land." Plus, the occupation would be brutal because of Canadian resistance
In that case, I would suggest the US take British Columbia and the Yukon to deprive Canada access to the Pacific, and Alberta for the oil fields.
But what will that mean for the rest of Canada?
If the loss of the colonies and their most prized possession leads to the British people blaming their government, would that lead to the British royal family fleeing the country to seek asylum elsewhere and form a government-in-exile?
I envision America taking parts of Canada, spinning off Quebec and rump Canada as their own countries, which are firmly aligned with Washington.
If your other question is referring to the aftermath of WWI, then no. The British are going to be quick to invent a stab in the back style myth about the Irish...
Essentially, I imagine the British government is going to say that the Irish revolt drained resources, "broke the bond of trust between Briton and Irishman," and essentially claim that the Irish revolted out of religious hatred, not genuine oppression.
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Obvious fallacy the Brits are fabricating; the Irish are Irish, not English, Saxons, or even British. The Irish have, for hundreds of years, resisted British rule. This, of course, matters not to those loyalists in the UK. Or to alt!Orwell.
Whatever happens to them on the interwar period and WW2 simply won't be pretty, and it can be assumed there are disgruntled peoples in whatever remains of British colonies due to oppression, frustration, mass death, or just losing a second worldwide war in a row.
Chapter 16: The American Homefront During WWI
Chapter 16: The American Homefront During WWI
The War affected civilians behind the lines almost as much as it affected the soldiers fighting in foreign fields. The Roosevelt Administration nationalized major industries, began rationing everything from lard to fish hooks, and introduced price controls to prevent an inflationary spiral. Women entered the workforce for the first time. In an effort to drum up support for the war, a massive propaganda campaign washed over America, with posters, songs, parades, and the so-called "Four Minute Men." This led to inflamed patriotic sentiment which would have consequences later on....
Due to the total nature of the war, Roosevelt commandeered the nation's industry in order to direct all of America's resources at the current conflict. This was the most any American government had ever involved itself in the nation's economy, and it set a precedent for future government regulations and wartime nationalizations. By the same token, however, the government also got involved in strike breaking. Whether it was the Railroad Strike in November of 1916, or the coal miners strike in January 1917, the government had the same response; forcibly break them up in the name of "national security and victory." However, the government didn't stop there....
Shortly after war was declared, the government passed the Sabotage Act of 1916, as well as the Anti-Sedition Act of 1916. These laws essentially silenced criticism of the war from pacifists, socialists, pro-French and pro-British groups, and others. The Anti-Sedition Act was especially harsh, threatening prison time to those who used "abusive language" against "American institutions, the American flag, the American government, or the war effort." Under these acts, leading members of the socialist movement, including Socialist Presidential candidate Seymour Stedman, were imprisoned for years. However, it wasn't just the government looking for conspirators.....
In response to increased paranoia about subversion and sabotage, several large but short lived nationalist organizations. These groups called for mandatory conscription, the Americanization of all immigrants and colonial subjects, making English the national language, as well as the deportation or imprisonment of "socialists, anarchists, draft dodgers, slackers, unassimilated Frenchmen, and pacifists." Members of these groups often acted as spies in their own communities, attempting to find and annihilate treason. However, some groups went farther. They attacked striking workers, pacifists, and especially French speakers. Violence was especially bad in Louisiana, where thousands of Cajuns were tarred and feathered for speaking French. This was the violent prelude to the more widespread outburst of xenophobia that occurred throughout the 1920's and 30's....
Another massive change was the entry of large numbers of women into the workforce, as the men were drafted into the Armed Forces. This led to an increase in agitation for women's suffrage, as suffragettes proclaimed "If we're good enough to do a man's job, we're good enough to have a man's vote." In 1919, they would get their wish, along with Prohibition (which women had agitated for)...
By the end of WWI, America had transformed more than it had since the Civil War. The government was larger and more powerful than ever before. America was more powerful and larger than at any point in the nation's history. Furthermore, the massive wave of nationalism and unity that swept the nation began to heal regional and racial divides as old as America itself. However, there was work to be done....
A badge from the nationalist American Protective League. The League was made an auxiliary of the Justice Department in January 1917
Propaganda directed at American women
An advertisement for an American propaganda movie
The War affected civilians behind the lines almost as much as it affected the soldiers fighting in foreign fields. The Roosevelt Administration nationalized major industries, began rationing everything from lard to fish hooks, and introduced price controls to prevent an inflationary spiral. Women entered the workforce for the first time. In an effort to drum up support for the war, a massive propaganda campaign washed over America, with posters, songs, parades, and the so-called "Four Minute Men." This led to inflamed patriotic sentiment which would have consequences later on....
Due to the total nature of the war, Roosevelt commandeered the nation's industry in order to direct all of America's resources at the current conflict. This was the most any American government had ever involved itself in the nation's economy, and it set a precedent for future government regulations and wartime nationalizations. By the same token, however, the government also got involved in strike breaking. Whether it was the Railroad Strike in November of 1916, or the coal miners strike in January 1917, the government had the same response; forcibly break them up in the name of "national security and victory." However, the government didn't stop there....
Shortly after war was declared, the government passed the Sabotage Act of 1916, as well as the Anti-Sedition Act of 1916. These laws essentially silenced criticism of the war from pacifists, socialists, pro-French and pro-British groups, and others. The Anti-Sedition Act was especially harsh, threatening prison time to those who used "abusive language" against "American institutions, the American flag, the American government, or the war effort." Under these acts, leading members of the socialist movement, including Socialist Presidential candidate Seymour Stedman, were imprisoned for years. However, it wasn't just the government looking for conspirators.....
In response to increased paranoia about subversion and sabotage, several large but short lived nationalist organizations. These groups called for mandatory conscription, the Americanization of all immigrants and colonial subjects, making English the national language, as well as the deportation or imprisonment of "socialists, anarchists, draft dodgers, slackers, unassimilated Frenchmen, and pacifists." Members of these groups often acted as spies in their own communities, attempting to find and annihilate treason. However, some groups went farther. They attacked striking workers, pacifists, and especially French speakers. Violence was especially bad in Louisiana, where thousands of Cajuns were tarred and feathered for speaking French. This was the violent prelude to the more widespread outburst of xenophobia that occurred throughout the 1920's and 30's....
Another massive change was the entry of large numbers of women into the workforce, as the men were drafted into the Armed Forces. This led to an increase in agitation for women's suffrage, as suffragettes proclaimed "If we're good enough to do a man's job, we're good enough to have a man's vote." In 1919, they would get their wish, along with Prohibition (which women had agitated for)...
By the end of WWI, America had transformed more than it had since the Civil War. The government was larger and more powerful than ever before. America was more powerful and larger than at any point in the nation's history. Furthermore, the massive wave of nationalism and unity that swept the nation began to heal regional and racial divides as old as America itself. However, there was work to be done....
A badge from the nationalist American Protective League. The League was made an auxiliary of the Justice Department in January 1917
Propaganda directed at American women
An advertisement for an American propaganda movie
Chapter 16: The American Homefront During WWI
The War affected civilians behind the lines almost as much as it affected the soldiers fighting in foreign fields. The Roosevelt Administration nationalized major industries, began rationing everything from lard to fish hooks, and introduced price controls to prevent an inflationary spiral. Women entered the workforce for the first time. In an effort to drum up support for the war, a massive propaganda campaign washed over America, with posters, songs, parades, and the so-called "Four Minute Men." This led to inflamed patriotic sentiment which would have consequences later on....
Due to the total nature of the war, Roosevelt commandeered the nation's industry in order to direct all of America's resources at the current conflict. This was the most any American government had ever involved itself in the nation's economy, and it set a precedent for future government regulations and wartime nationalizations. By the same token, however, the government also got involved in strike breaking. Whether it was the Railroad Strike in November of 1916, or the coal miners strike in January 1917, the government had the same response; forcibly break them up in the name of "national security and victory." However, the government didn't stop there....
Shortly after war was declared, the government passed the Sabotage Act of 1916, as well as the Anti-Sedition Act of 1916. These laws essentially silenced criticism of the war from pacifists, socialists, pro-French and pro-British groups, and others. The Anti-Sedition Act was especially harsh, threatening prison time to those who used "abusive language" against "American institutions, the American flag, the American government, or the war effort." Under these acts, leading members of the socialist movement, including Socialist Presidential candidate Seymour Stedman, were imprisoned for years. However, it wasn't just the government looking for conspirators.....
In response to increased paranoia about subversion and sabotage, several large but short lived nationalist organizations. These groups called for mandatory conscription, the Americanization of all immigrants and colonial subjects, making English the national language, as well as the deportation or imprisonment of "socialists, anarchists, draft dodgers, slackers, unassimilated Frenchmen, and pacifists." Members of these groups often acted as spies in their own communities, attempting to find and annihilate treason. However, some groups went farther. They attacked striking workers, pacifists, and especially French speakers. Violence was especially bad in Louisiana, where thousands of Cajuns were tarred and feathered for speaking French. This was the violent prelude to the more widespread outburst of xenophobia that occurred throughout the 1920's and 30's....
Another massive change was the entry of large numbers of women into the workforce, as the men were drafted into the Armed Forces. This led to an increase in agitation for women's suffrage, as suffragettes proclaimed "If we're good enough to do a man's job, we're good enough to have a man's vote." In 1919, they would get their wish, along with Prohibition (which women had agitated for)...
By the end of WWI, America had transformed more than it had since the Civil War. The government was larger and more powerful than ever before. America was more powerful and larger than at any point in the nation's history. Furthermore, the massive wave of nationalism and unity that swept the nation began to heal regional and racial divides as old as America itself. However, there was work to be done....
A badge from the nationalist American Protective League. The League was made an auxiliary of the Justice Department in January 1917
Propaganda directed at American women
An advertisement for an American propaganda movie
Damn, alt-America, you scary.
Damn, alt-America, you scary.
Here's the scarier part... All of this happened OTL, but directed at Germans
How are German-Americans faring ITTL? Also, I wonder what an X-Over between this and Pax Atomica would look like.
Ah, im getting the flashbacks,it's so good to smell Abit of Pax Atomica again
German Americans are faring better. They'll still be Americanized, but not forcibly. Also expect German culture to have more of an impact on American culture.
A cross over would be.... interesting in the Chinese sense of the word
Ah, im getting the flashbacks,it's so good to smell Abit of Pax Atomica again
I promise America won't get much crazier. However, all of this happened OTL, and I'm not about to make America some unrealistic goody two-shoes.
Yeah I know, can't wait to see whats next on the agenda.
Non-racist America vs its racist allies. Dealing with the mess they made of the world? Not fun for anyone