Alternate Electoral Maps
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President Pinckney's reputation had been damaged after he ordered the navy to sink French and British ships. However, he had enough voters, but his proposal to declare war on Britain and France was shot down in the Senate. President Pinckney also has said that he will not run in 1812, claiming he wants the ensuing war to be in the hands of his successors.
George Washington (Federalist) 1789-1796
John Adams (Federalist) 1796-1804
Charles Pinckney (Federalist) 1804-1812
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President Pinckney's reputation had been damaged after he ordered the navy to sink French and British ships. However, he had enough voters, but his proposal to declare war on Britain and France was shot down in the Senate. President Pinckney also has said that he will not run in 1812, claiming he wants the ensuing war to be in the hands of his successors.
George Washington (Federalist) 1789-1796
John Adams (Federalist) 1796-1804
Charles Pinckney (Federalist) 1804-1812
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Governing Parties of Europe and Her Neighborhood, 2017
POD: No large-scale emigration of religious and political minorities to the US => Longer Wars of Religion => Clusterf*ck of Balkanization.
Light gray - Nonpartisan. Includes the Aegean League, Malta, the Principality of Rügen, and the Barbary Emirate.
Purple - Protestant theocracy. Includes Amish, Mennonite, Puritan, Conservative Lutheran, Calvinist, and *Mormon (the nutcases in North Jutland are the equivalent of the Danish Mormon colony in Utah) sects. Territory includes Waldensia, the Amish State, Gammelsvenskland, Hutterland, the Calvinist Republic, Northern Scotland, Eastern Ireland, the Russian Mennonite Commonwealth, and much of Northern Europe.
Dark blue - Protestant Christian Democrats. Includes the Cévennes, Friesland, East Prussia, Wales, Kernow, and parts of Germany and Transylvania.
Light blue - Catholic Christian Democrats. Includes Spain, Sardinia, Croatia, Istria, Moravia, Ruthenia, Slovakia, Wallonie, Free Eire, Poland, Latgale, and Lithuania.
Dark green - Muslim Democrats. Includes Bosnia, Sandzak, and the Ottoman Turkish Sultanate.
Brown - Orthodox Christian Democrats. Includes Greece Bulgaria, Ukraine, Byelorussia, and Pomoria.
Yellow - Conservative and centrist neoliberals. Includes Portugal, Latvia, Iceland, Albania, Corsica, Valdosta, Cechy, most of Switzerland and North Italy, Dobrogea, and numerous Baltic and German states.
Red - Social democrats (generally more libertarian leaning than in OTL). Includes Italy, Skopje, the French Republic, the Principality of Northumbria, and much of Scandinavia.
Pink - Utopian socialists. Most of these collapsed into other ideologies, making peace with either neoliberals, social democrats, or Christian Democrats; only the Pyrenean Association survives.
Light green - Green parties. Includes Tras-os-Montes, South Tyrol, Slovenia, and Scotland.
Dark Red - Revolutionary socialists. Currently only Crimea and Bavaria.
Olive - National conservatives (between the UK Tories and PiS) . Includes Hungary, Russia, England, and Monaco (which gobbled up much of southern France).
Dark gray - Fascists and other far-right parties. Includes Vendee, Austria, and Alsace.
POD: No large-scale emigration of religious and political minorities to the US => Longer Wars of Religion => Clusterf*ck of Balkanization.
Light gray - Nonpartisan. Includes the Aegean League, Malta, the Principality of Rügen, and the Barbary Emirate.
Purple - Protestant theocracy. Includes Amish, Mennonite, Puritan, Conservative Lutheran, Calvinist, and *Mormon (the nutcases in North Jutland are the equivalent of the Danish Mormon colony in Utah) sects. Territory includes Waldensia, the Amish State, Gammelsvenskland, Hutterland, the Calvinist Republic, Northern Scotland, Eastern Ireland, the Russian Mennonite Commonwealth, and much of Northern Europe.
Dark blue - Protestant Christian Democrats. Includes the Cévennes, Friesland, East Prussia, Wales, Kernow, and parts of Germany and Transylvania.
Light blue - Catholic Christian Democrats. Includes Spain, Sardinia, Croatia, Istria, Moravia, Ruthenia, Slovakia, Wallonie, Free Eire, Poland, Latgale, and Lithuania.
Dark green - Muslim Democrats. Includes Bosnia, Sandzak, and the Ottoman Turkish Sultanate.
Brown - Orthodox Christian Democrats. Includes Greece Bulgaria, Ukraine, Byelorussia, and Pomoria.
Yellow - Conservative and centrist neoliberals. Includes Portugal, Latvia, Iceland, Albania, Corsica, Valdosta, Cechy, most of Switzerland and North Italy, Dobrogea, and numerous Baltic and German states.
Red - Social democrats (generally more libertarian leaning than in OTL). Includes Italy, Skopje, the French Republic, the Principality of Northumbria, and much of Scandinavia.
Pink - Utopian socialists. Most of these collapsed into other ideologies, making peace with either neoliberals, social democrats, or Christian Democrats; only the Pyrenean Association survives.
Light green - Green parties. Includes Tras-os-Montes, South Tyrol, Slovenia, and Scotland.
Dark Red - Revolutionary socialists. Currently only Crimea and Bavaria.
Olive - National conservatives (between the UK Tories and PiS) . Includes Hungary, Russia, England, and Monaco (which gobbled up much of southern France).
Dark gray - Fascists and other far-right parties. Includes Vendee, Austria, and Alsace.
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This was the beginning of the end of the Federalists. People in the Federalist Party were split over tensions which had just recently boiled over when the Navy sunk multiple French and British ships. President DeWitt Clinton was a truce to this split. He had no views about the incident, instead leaving it up to the generals. He refused to run for a 2nd term, saying "My party won't last long." After his term, he left the Federalists, and quit politics.
George Washington (Federalist) 1789-1796
John Adams (Federalist) 1796-1804
Charles Pinckney (Federalist) 1804-1812
DeWitt Clinton (Federalist) 1812-1816
1792
1796
1800
1804
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1812
This was the beginning of the end of the Federalists. People in the Federalist Party were split over tensions which had just recently boiled over when the Navy sunk multiple French and British ships. President DeWitt Clinton was a truce to this split. He had no views about the incident, instead leaving it up to the generals. He refused to run for a 2nd term, saying "My party won't last long." After his term, he left the Federalists, and quit politics.
George Washington (Federalist) 1789-1796
John Adams (Federalist) 1796-1804
Charles Pinckney (Federalist) 1804-1812
DeWitt Clinton (Federalist) 1812-1816
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Tensions boil over again after President Clinton's term is over. The Federalists split up under President Monroe, the first Democratic-Republican leader, and the British invade Michigan, culminating in a battle in Detroit, which the British won. The French and Spanish invade the South, but the Americans hold back, and, several weeks before the 1820 election, President Monroe announces that he'll run in 1820.
George Washington (Federalist) 1789-1796
John Adams (Federalist) 1796-1804
Charles Pinckney (Federalist) 1804-1812
DeWitt Clinton (Federalist) 1812-1816
James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) 1816-18??
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Tensions boil over again after President Clinton's term is over. The Federalists split up under President Monroe, the first Democratic-Republican leader, and the British invade Michigan, culminating in a battle in Detroit, which the British won. The French and Spanish invade the South, but the Americans hold back, and, several weeks before the 1820 election, President Monroe announces that he'll run in 1820.
George Washington (Federalist) 1789-1796
John Adams (Federalist) 1796-1804
Charles Pinckney (Federalist) 1804-1812
DeWitt Clinton (Federalist) 1812-1816
James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) 1816-18??
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The 1820 election was a very turbulent election, with a tie between a group of Federalists who hadn't picked a leader, since, recently, the party had fell. The House of Representatives picked Monroe, with Van Buren being blamed for the tie. President Monroe declined to run in 1824.
George Washington (Federalist) 1789-1796
John Adams (Federalist) 1796-1804
Charles Pinckney (Federalist) 1804-1812
DeWitt Clinton (Federalist) 1812-1816
James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) 1816-1824
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The 1820 election was a very turbulent election, with a tie between a group of Federalists who hadn't picked a leader, since, recently, the party had fell. The House of Representatives picked Monroe, with Van Buren being blamed for the tie. President Monroe declined to run in 1824.
George Washington (Federalist) 1789-1796
John Adams (Federalist) 1796-1804
Charles Pinckney (Federalist) 1804-1812
DeWitt Clinton (Federalist) 1812-1816
James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) 1816-1824
You have the colors inverted.
6th Party System (2024-2056)
All Democratic All But 1 Democratic All But 2 Democratic All but 3 Democratic
Tossup
All but 3 Republican All But 2 Republican All But 1 Republican All Republican
6th Party System (2024-2056)
All Democratic All But 1 Democratic All But 2 Democratic All but 3 Democratic
Tossup
All but 3 Republican All But 2 Republican All But 1 Republican All Republican
Presidents
47. Senator Ted Cruz (D-TX) / Representative Rocky De Fuente (D-CA)
def. Senator Elizabeth Warren (R-MA) / Senator Cory Booker (R-NJ)
Cruz/de Fuente (D/330 EV)
Warren/Booker (R/208 EV)
2028 COMING SOON
Why is Ted Cruz now a Democrat? Why are Elizabeth Warren and Cory Booker now Republicans? What's even going on? It looks interesting, but can we have some context please?
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This election, was so chaotic because they had no people to oppose, since the Federalists became defunct under Monroe. The House of Representatives chose Crawford, after days of deliberation. President Crawford declined to run in 1828, because he didn't want to be in another chaotic election.
George Washington (Federalist) 1789-1796
John Adams (Federalist) 1796-1804
Charles Pinckney (Federalist) 1804-1812
DeWitt Clinton (Federalist) 1812-1816
James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) 1816-1824
William H. Crawford (Democratic-Republican) 1824-1828
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This election, was so chaotic because they had no people to oppose, since the Federalists became defunct under Monroe. The House of Representatives chose Crawford, after days of deliberation. President Crawford declined to run in 1828, because he didn't want to be in another chaotic election.
George Washington (Federalist) 1789-1796
John Adams (Federalist) 1796-1804
Charles Pinckney (Federalist) 1804-1812
DeWitt Clinton (Federalist) 1812-1816
James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) 1816-1824
William H. Crawford (Democratic-Republican) 1824-1828
Following the downfall of the Democratic Party after the disastrous 2056 elections, the Republican Party came to effectively dominate the politics of the United States. However, the end of the Democrats created political chaos, leading to the rise of numerous leftist and anti-Republican movements.
One of such movements was the Labour Party. Envisioned as a coalition by Intermountain West politicians (both Democrats and Republicans), the Libertarians, moderate leftists, workers' rights alliances and other small groups which weren't okay with the New Establishment, Labour Party eventually replaced the Democratic Party, even as numerous so-called Democratic remnants (referred to as "Liberal Parties") tried to rise. Thus, the term Ninth Party System was coined. The System began in 2056 and ended in 2092 following the War Distress and realignment of voting blocs. The Labour Party was dominant in the Intermountain West (with the exception of Arizona and New Mexico) and very powerful in the Midwest, while the Republican Party dominated the East Coast. "Liberal Parties", on the other hand, held practically unchallenged control of Hawaii and Puerto Rico, and would come to control most of the "Island States" by 2084.
Republicans - 343 EV, 39%
New Democrats - 122 EV, 27%
America First - 54 EV, 14%
Democrats - 13 EV, 19%
Mormon Independence - 6 EV, 1%
The Election of 2032 was a disaster. As both parties started moving in a more Centrist direction after the election of Lisa Murkowski, the America First and New Democratic Parties were founded. Both were anti-establishment. The New Democrats were mainly Democratic Socialists while America First was mainly made up of racists. The Democratic Party did a lot worse than expected, winning less electoral votes than the New Democrats. The Republicans, however, began attracting Moderates and Centrists with their new anti-racism message. This election would see the Democratic Party collapse soon after. Utah, afraid of all 4 parties, voted for the 3rd time for the Mormon Independence Party.
The reason is the 6th system makes the Dems and Reps to switch sides on the issues.
It's happened before, but I don't see how two very different parties suddenly just switch sides. With the Republicans and Democrats it took at least 50 years after the Civil War.
Actually, that's kind of a myth. Their core purposes were still the same. The Republicans were the party of Big Business, the Democrats the populists criticising business's excesses. The policies they advocated were just changed because of the changing times. Jackson advocated small government because it was the populist message at the time (the National Bank was disliked by small farmers). You can see that same criticism of big finance today in today's Democrats. If there's any true inversion, it's with the New Democrats and Democrats becoming the party of the middle-class.
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The Democratic-Republicans, had split into 2 parties, the Democrats, and the National Republicans. This happened due to internal bickering, since they didn't prepare for the Federalists to crumble, which caused the results of the 1824 election. President Adams decides to not run, in 1832.
George Washington (Federalist) 1789-1796
John Adams (Federalist) 1796-1804
Charles Pinckney (Federalist) 1804-1812
DeWitt Clinton (Federalist) 1812-1816
James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) 1816-1824
William H. Crawford (Democratic-Republican) 1824-1828
John Quincy Adams (National Republican) 1828-1832
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The Democratic-Republicans, had split into 2 parties, the Democrats, and the National Republicans. This happened due to internal bickering, since they didn't prepare for the Federalists to crumble, which caused the results of the 1824 election. President Adams decides to not run, in 1832.
George Washington (Federalist) 1789-1796
John Adams (Federalist) 1796-1804
Charles Pinckney (Federalist) 1804-1812
DeWitt Clinton (Federalist) 1812-1816
James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) 1816-1824
William H. Crawford (Democratic-Republican) 1824-1828
John Quincy Adams (National Republican) 1828-1832
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The Democratic-Republicans, had split into 2 parties, the Democrats, and the National Republicans. This happened due to internal bickering, since they didn't prepare for the Federalists to crumble, which caused the results of the 1824 election. President Adams decides to not run, in 1832.
George Washington (Federalist) 1789-1796
John Adams (Federalist) 1796-1804
Charles Pinckney (Federalist) 1804-1812
DeWitt Clinton (Federalist) 1812-1816
James Monroe (Democratic-Republican) 1816-1824
William H. Crawford (Democratic-Republican) 1824-1828
John Quincy Adams (National Republican) 1828-1832
B-but you... you just switched them around!
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