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In the long run the Genoese need to be permanently neutralised.
Yes; hopefully, the Navy stayed loyal as well.
In the long run the Genoese need to be permanently neutralised.
Aren't they lacking the first? and isn't the second undercut by the bureaucracy and so unhappy?
Rome’s intervention swiftly tipped the balance of power back into the hands of the coalition. Firstly, by saving Candar. After using Sinope as a launch pad to brutally sacking Trebizond, ransoming its royal family in aftermath of the unexpected attack and eliminating its presence in the current war (and ruining all the work in the past century to build up the country above a third rate power), Romania began to concentrate her forces on the remainder of Candarid territory to defend. [/SIZE][/FONT]
Most certainly,like the Ottomans,and unlike the Ottomans where a large portion of their state is in Anatolia,most Roman territory currently is in Greece.And unlike the Ottomans,who had to be ferried by the Genoese across the Bosporus,the Romans have their own navy.If the worst comes, the Romans can retreat behind the Aegean no?
A lot of Romans will see Timur as the second coming of Attila.
I have a feeling that Timur's coming may be a blessing in disguise.If he ravage much of Anatolia,the Turks are going to insulate much of the damage from the Romans.By the time Timur kicks the bucket,Anatolia will probably be ripe for reconquest.
Yes and?
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On the phone right now, so I can't exactly do that but I can give a rough description.Mehmet Beg is more f#$ked than Constantine XI.
By the way,please show us the map.
Thank you!Nice, nice. And at least Romans are not in the first line of Timurid impact.
Gracias!Squee, this is awesome!
Oh they would. But like, its a big trading city, its on the coast, its rich, doesn't have much of a navy, and its got money. That's a nice, juicy cash infusion for Romania right there.Wouldn't Trebizond actually try to weasel out of it? They could switch alliances, keep coast (it's better to have Greek Orthodox state with significant Turkish minority as a neighbor, than other way around... right?) and attack Germiyan, decreasing Turkish influence even further. As a grain of salt, they'd be forced into nominal vassalage- why waste Roman resources though?
Yeah but that'd be kinda painful for them. Anatolia is rich- even if what they have right now isn't much.If the worst comes, the Romans can retreat behind the Aegean no?
Good ideas.Or potentially the third - we do have the Ilkhanate don't forget.
Frankly, they may see his rise, and likely collapse as a boon. Timur wants to be Lord of Asia or somesuch - then he will probably attempt to conquer Germiyan, potentially be rebuffed at cost, and focus on the rest of the Steppe peoples.
Afterwards the Romans come along, take Germiyan - and then pay Timur tribute until he stops being a problem
Or implode the place and cause it to be full of dozens of little petty emirs who want to conquer all in sight, effectively re creating the situation at the end of the 1200s.I have a feeling that Timur's coming may be a blessing in disguise.If he ravage much of Anatolia,the Turks are going to insulate much of the damage from the Romans.By the time Timur kicks the bucket,Anatolia will probably be ripe for reconquest.
Now I don't want to sound depressing but historically, Timur cut through Anatolia in about 2 years without much resistance. That's not going to change in this timeline at the moment.Great update! I assume Timur is going to want the title of Ghazi in this timeline as well so he'll have a whole lot of Turk to cut through before he reaches the Romans.
That last one just wouldn't be fun.From Soverihn's comments that Timur won't be a deus ex machina to crush the Turks, I somehow doubt that Romans will end unscathed by Timur. Or he might bypass Anatolia entirely.
Yeah, sorry about that...I cannot help it, but I took offense by your answer. If it wasn't clear I thought that unhappy soldiers wouldn't be effective against a rebellion, maybe even joining it (because of the lack of money).
Let me rephrase your (kinda rude) answer: "Read the following update and find out ".
moving on...
Romans won't be left unscathed by Timur, but he will do such a number on Anatolia that they can get most of it if they play a smart and patient game (and that's assuming he will remained confined to Asia, the romans as of now don't over-rely on their asian possessions and won't have the time to get dependant on their new conquests after this war).
Nah son, Timur is coming.Even then, there's a lot of Beyliks (and Trebizond and Georgia) between Timur and Rhomania, they won't necessarily have to reach Rhomania.
So who is the mother of Constantine XI?That has never been resolved.How old is Constantine XI and who has he married,did he have any children?How old are they?Did Constantine XI have any siblings?Who did they marry?
I'd still imagine there will be some kind of Anakara battle.As for petty Emirates,that's a good thing.The more fragmented the Turks become,the better for the Romans.Or implode the place and cause it to be full of dozens of little petty emirs who want to conquer all in sight, effectively re creating the situation at the end of the 1200s.
Now I don't want to sound depressing but historically, Timur cut through Anatolia in about 2 years without much resistance. That's not going to change in this timeline at the moment.
So who is the mother of Constantine XI?That has never been resolved.How old is Constantine XI and who has he married,did he have any children?How old are they?Did Constantine XI have any siblings?Who did they marry?
True on all accounts. Hmm, I foresee the conquest of Anatolia being much like Russia's conquest of Siberia.I'd still imagine there will be some kind of Anakara battle.As for petty Emirates,that's a good thing.The more fragmented the Turks become,the better for the Romans.