To be fair, the European Union does arguably have cross-language advantages to many of its potential replacements, which might make it a more likely choice than one might think at first glance.EU? My eyes!
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Lovely. Fallout from a Smedley coup? But no, that would make the start of the era 1933, not 1929...
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Hot damn, that's awesome. Is there a TL somewhere to go with that map? I'm curious how the "warlord" states are set-up. Especially the Upper Midwest under Bob LaFollette.
Well, yeah. It's a notorious OTLism, however. The textbook example would be the EU from "Fatherland", which even has the same flag as the EU of OTL...
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I always saw that as a somewhat anvilicious deliberate comparison rather than convergence.
Absolutely gorgeous, and incredibly awe-inpiring...
...but for this detail.That's awesome. Amelia Earhart as warlord of Seattle. That's feminism for ya.
Because, you see, she lived in Kansas, Iowa, Minnesota, California, Massachusetts, pretty much everywhere but Seattle.
Maj Gen Benjamin F. Cheatham Jr- the guy who turned Fort Lewis from a nowhere post into one of the best Army facilities west of the Mississippi. Why not him? (Oh, yeah, it's impossible to find a picture of him. Sorry.)
If you still want aviation pioneers, why not The Man Himself, William Boeing? Or The Man Himself's second-in-command, Philip G. Johnson (served as Boeing Airplane Company's president for much of the 20s and 30s)?
You could've taken the guy who invented disposable diapers and Pringles. You could've had half the Eisenhower brothers (and probably the other half if cards were played correctly). You could have even taken one of our better politicians.
But no. 'Seattle' ends up led by someone who never lived here, wouldn't have any reason to move here, isn't even associated with the place, and wouldn't have been a particularly good leader when compared to other contemporaries. Blast it all.
Still a really pretty map, though.
My thoughts here, A) only a British author could possibly cook up something like that B) that gives the EU way too much credit...
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My thoughts here, A) only a British author could possibly cook up something like that B) that gives the EU way too much credit...
Well from our perspective 'Someone on the Continent trying to rule us' is number 1) on the evil shit list and leads to a moral equivalency between e.g. William the Conqueror, the Spanish Armada, Napoleon, Hitler and the EU... It doesn't really matter how successful they were at it.
I would add the Celts, Anglo-Saxons and Vikings into that chain for the sake of historical completeness...
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If we're talking about British views on both facism and the EU, can I mention the Daily Mails views on the BUF and Mosley?
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It's funny how the Vikings get romanticised. The Celts and Anglo-Saxons don't count because they ARE us. The Normans are borderline there - it's OK to boast of Norman ancestry if you're posh, but if you're common then William the Bastard is as much a Bastard as the rest.I would add the Celts, Anglo-Saxons and Vikings into that chain for the sake of historical completeness...
But anyway - not to distract a map thread with non map posts.
I think everyone loves Vikings because they remind the rest of other the Scanidinavia was interesting before they unleashed Ikea.
I don't accept this internal borders for India. Too many strike me as anachronistic. Otherwise, interesting idea and execution.
It goes to show you, that if you want your country to have any authority over Britain, your entire ethnic group has to pack up and move there.
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