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--- pods:native_americans [2021/08/14 17:47] – [Native American cultural and political PODs] petike
+++ pods:native_americans [2024/05/04 15:12] (current) – [Native American cultural and political PODs] petike
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-===== Native American PODs =====
+====== Points of Divergence: Native Americans ======
 This is an article listing various points of divergence related to Native American cultures, i.e. the native, pre-Columbian cultures of the Americas (from the Arctic to Tierra del Fuego).
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   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=244110|Llama cavalry ?]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=280479|Llama survives in Mexico post-Pleistocene]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/llama-herding-in-north-america.514054/|Llama herding in North America]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=175723|Challenge: Tame the American Bison]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=266561|WI the American Bison was domesticated ?]]**
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   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=191552|Ideas about more developed medieval era Amerindian civilizations]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=307876|Discussion on a more advanced native civilisation in the Pacific Northwest]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/indigenous-powerhouse-in-the-pacific-northwest.77894/|Discussion on an indigenous powerhouse in the Pacific Northwest]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/haida.74844/|Making the Haida more powerful]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=191552|Amerindian Middle Ages]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-the-navajo-and-apache-dont-move-to-the-american-southwest.473086/|WI: The Navajo and Apache don't move to the American Southwest]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/where-else-could-the-navajo-have-gone.480503/|Where else could the Navajo have gone?]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-no-sioux-on-the-plains.471816/|WI: No Sioux on the Plains]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/where-else-could-the-sioux-have-gone.478791/|Where else could the Sioux have gone ?]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/ahc-sioux-indian-wank.342769/|Sioux-wank]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=244215|Pre-Columbian New World naval powers: When, who, where, and how ?]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=314731|Challenge: Pre-Columbian discovery of the Old World by the Native Americans]]**
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   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=27084|Challenge: The Aztec and Inca empires survive]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/pc-wi-surviving-muisca-civilization.443593/|WI: Surviving Muisca civilization]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-champlain-befriends-iroqouis-instead-of-huron-and-algonquins.406257/|WI Champlain befriends Iroqouis instead of Huron and Algonquins?]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-founding-of-huronia-a-thought-project.397512/|The Wendat (Huron) found their own realm of Wendake]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-a-comanche-genghis-khan.422973/|WI: A Comanche Genghis Khan]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-no-sioux-on-the-plains.471816/|WI: No Sioux on the Plains]]**
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   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=302718|How could the Iroquois survive to become a US state ?]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/ahc-surviving-native-american-countries.473316/|Challenge: Surviving Native American countries]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/haida-what-could-have-been.97769/|The Haida become expansionist]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/challenge-with-a-pod-after-1750-jewish-settlers-and-natives-in-the-pacific-northwest-create-many-small-and-medium-businesses-based-on-fisheries.553282/|Challenge: With a POD after 1750, Jewish settlers and natives in the Pacific Northwest create many small and medium businesses based on fisheries]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/challenge-successful-sioux-nation-survives-to-modern-day.457970/|Challenge: Successful Sioux Nation Survives to Modern Day (POD after 1775 AD)]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=287213|Native Americans as landlords for white settlers]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=260977|Plausible size of an "Indian Barrier State" established on the Great Lakes, as per OTL British plan ?]]**
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   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=254287|WI: "Indian Territory" further east]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/ahc-native-american-regiment-in-a-us-north-american-millitary.459186/|Challenge: Native American Regiment in a US/North American millitary]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-no-us-conflicts-with-the-sioux-or-cheyenne-during-the-acw.289194/|WI: No US conflicts with the Sioux or Cheyenne during the ACW]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=323036|WI: Larger and more successful Sioux Uprising in 1862]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/challenge-successful-sioux-nation-survives-to-modern-day.457970/|Challenge: Successful Sioux Nation Survives to Modern Day]]**
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   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-six-nations-of-1775-isot-to-1142.472310/|WI Six Nations of 1775 ISOT to 1142?]]**
-  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-native-americans-to-1350s-europe.462766/|25 million Native Americans from 2019 ISOTed (with immunity and some modern tech) to Europe in 1350 AD ([post-Black Death]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-native-americans-to-1350s-europe.462766/|25 million Native Americans from 2019 ISOTed (with immunity and some modern tech) to Europe in 1350 AD (post-Black Death)]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-an-asb-where-native-americans-land-on-europe.456487/|3000 rafts and canoes with Native Americans arrive in Europe in 1429 AD]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/1518-great-plains-isoted-to-2018.450706/|1518 Great Plains ISOTed to 2018]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-sioux-and-huns-switch-places.436667/|The Sioux of 1855 and Huns of 432 swap places]]**
+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-ghost-dance-works.453808/|WI: The Ghost Dance works]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-the-navajo-nation-gets-isot-to-1836.363079/|The Navajo Nation gets ISOT to 1836]]**
   * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/an-isot-2019-mississippi-riverside-region-in-1500-bce.469042/|An ISOT: 2019 Mississippi riverside region in 1500 BCE]]**
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 ==== Notable timelines ====
-There have been a fair few Native American timelines, major and minor, throughout AH.com's history and the history of the online AH community in general. Here's a (mostly) alphabetically sorted list of some notable timelines.
+**[[timelines:amerindians|Native American Timelines]]**
-  * //**[[timelines:Anahuatlacanco - The Land Between the Waters, Land of the Nahuatlaca|Anahuatlacanco: The Land Between the Waters, Land of the Nahuatlaca]]**// by [[offtopic:sa_id_mohammed|Cuāuhtemōc]]
+There have been a fair few Native American timelines, major and minor, throughout AH.com's history and the history of the online AH community in general. Here's a link to a list of some notable timelines.
-  * //**[[timelines:Bronze Age New World]]**// by [[offtopic:Doug M.|Doug Muir]] (originally developed at [[offtopic:soc.history.what-if]])
-  * //**[[timelines:Bronze Age New World 2.0]]**// by [[offtopic:Hnau]]
-  * //**[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=237901|Bronze Age New World : Empires of the Steppe]]**// by [[offtopic:ChugachMtnBlues]]
-  * //**[[timelines:Bronze Age New World Alaska]]**// by [[offtopic:ChugachMtnBlues]]
-  * //**[[timelines:Children of the Sun]]**// by [[offtopic:othyrsyde]]
-  * //**[[timelines:land of turkey and deer|The Count of Years (Land of Turkey and Deer)]]**// by [[offtopic:9 Fanged Hummingbird]]
-  * //**[[timelines:Deganawatha - The Haudenosaunee Imperium|Deganawatha: The Haudenosaunee Imperium]]**// by [[offtopic:Prime Minister]]
-  * //**[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=344640|Empires on the Ohio]]**// by [[offtopic:General Finley]]
-  * //**[[timelines:The Guns of the Tawantinsuya|Guns of the Tawantinsuya]]**// by [[offtopic:robertp6165]]
-  * //**[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=134879|Horses of Turtle Island]]**// by [[offtopic:Domoviye]]
-  * //**[[timelines:Land of Salmon and Totems]]**// by [[offtopic:King of Malta]]
-  * //**[[timelines:Lands of Bronze and Llamas|Lands of Bronze and Fire]]**// by [[offtopic:Huehuecoyotl]]
-  * //**[[timelines:Lands of Ice and Mice|Lands of Ice and Mice: An Alternate History of Thule]]**// by [[offtopic:DValdron]] and [[offtopic:DirtyCommie]]
-  * //**[[timelines:Mississippi Rice]]**// by [[offtopic:tormsen]]
-  * //**[[timelines:Pecari Rex Equus Regina - American Domesticates|Pecari Rex, Equus Regina: American Domesticates]]**// by [[offtopic:twovultures]]
-  * //**[[timelines:Swords of the Iroquois]]**// by [[offtopic:smjb]]
-  * //**[[timelines:Amerindian Arbalists]]**// by [[offtopic:Petike]]
-  * //**[[timelines:The Westward Wind]]**// by [[offtopic:Petike]]
-  * //**[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/guns-germs-and-good-intentions-american-indian-reservations-isoted-to-1418.453468/|2018 Indian reservations ISOTed to 1418 AD]]**// by [[offtopic:TheScottishMongol]]
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 **[[resources:language help - native american languages|Useful resources about Native American languages]]**
-**[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-up-and-coming-ah-com-pre-columbian-cabal.477871/|The Up-and-Coming AH.com Pre-Columbian Cabal]]** - Main discussion thread for enthusiasts of pre-Columbian Native American alternate history.
+**[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/pre-columbian-native-american-cultures-pods-and-alternate-histories-discussion.517251/|Pre-Columbian Native American cultures, PODs and alternate histories discussion]]** - Main discussion thread for enthusiasts of pre-Columbian Native American alternate history. An older iteration can also be found [[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-up-and-coming-ah-com-pre-columbian-cabal.477871/|here]].
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