So what wand could be waved to magic up Rice with Japan occupation of Burma and Thailand unfriendly?Ultimately it was a British responsibility.
Ships go around both countries. There were alternative sources of food available to the British such as Australia or New Zealand. They decided that armaments and the means to produce them were more important.So what wand could be waved to magic up Rice with Japan occupation of Burma and Thailand unfriendly?
Just admit that the British didn't cause that intentionally, then explain how they could have done better, with a War on and Japan sinking ships as they desired in the Indian Ocean.
By this measure the 40,000 deaths during the Blitz were a British responsibility because they couldn't prevent Germany dropping bombs on them.Ultimately it was a British responsibility.
Churchill to Wavell (Oct 1943):Ships go around both countries. There were alternative sources of food available to the British such as Australia or New Zealand. They decided that armaments and the means to produce them were more important.
I am starting to get really quite sick of seeing these assertions about Britain's role in the Bengal Famine, especially when sources are practically never used by the people making them.Rather it was British responsibility to make sure their own people did not starve. Something they failed badly at.
I guess if a status quo ending is achieved it will either return to normal (considered a european war) or only in europe it will stay the same (ie the german colonies are still split and the ottoman are perhaps still broken up) but i would think the freikorps can still sprink up if let say the colonies are still taken and the german still had to pay reparations (i dunno will it lead to a socialist movement like in otl but if russia still fell to communism then i dunno) and as for austria hungary? Its quite complicated actually maybe they still split up but i dunno
Well maybe sorta like what happened with the portugal and the pink areas but true the german army will stay at full strength and the freikorps is unlikely to spring up but i do still wonder what will be public reactions will be? Seeing the german colonies got ripped away and no gains from it whatsoeverWith status quo peace, presumably the German army stays at prewar strength, so I don't see how you get Freikorps.
If Germany still loses her colonies and has to pay reparations and let the OE be carved up, then she has pulled out of all her conquests and got less than nothing in return. Why would she agree to that short of total defeat?
If A/H still "splits" then it wll be a very different kind of split from OTL. The Reich will presumbly absorb at least the German/majority areas.
The bengal famine was not genocide but an example of utter British incompetence.I am starting to get really quite sick of seeing these assertions about Britain's role in the Bengal Famine, especially when sources are practically never used by the people making them.
Like most countries, the British Empire was not spotless, but the Bengal Famine is not good evidence of 'genocide' or supposed tyranny.
I don’t think anyone here is suggesting that the famine was handled well or competently or even that Churchill wasn’t racist.The bengal famine was not genocide but an example of utter British incompetence.
1.Rice stocks were seized from Khulna, barisal and Medinipur districts .These areas were expected to have surplus paddy and rice stocks.The official figure of seized foodstuffs was quite low but corrupt British officials took far more rice than official number and destroyed it.
2.Idiotic British warfare "scorched earth" policies led to seizure of almost all rural means of transportation including fishing boats,normal boats used for travelling,bicycles ,bullock carts ,etc.
3.So,with confiscation of fishing boats, fishermen could not fish and their source of livelihood was taken away through draconian measures like this.Rice growers,artisans ,migrant labourers , buyers, sellers.none could travel, Entire economy of rural bengal was destroyed through this one step.
4.The British army and British colonial adminstration made no step to distribute rations or foodstuffs.
5.Rich and Indians connected with British interests were prioritised instead of rural and urban poor.
6.British colonial authorities seized rice stocks from merchants and built insufficient AA defenses for Calcutta which lead to widespread insecurity.
7.Churchills cabinet of war forbidded rice imports inspite of appeals by Linlithgow,Amery and auchincleck and wavell.
8. Along with the famine,the British refused help to the epidemic stricken rural areas and sought to spray insectisides only around military bases.
9.even the cloth produced by bengal was given to the British army.Not a single stich was left for the ppl of Bengal.
The only British member of the colonial adminstration who did good work was Archibald wavell.
And,We cant forget Churchill's racist remarks ,can we ?
Again, sources are much appreciated, and in this context I'd argue needed when so many claims are being thrown around.The bengal famine was not genocide but an example of utter British incompetence.
Assigned by Churchill, with one of his main tasks being to bring the famine under control. This to the point of Churchill telling him 'Every effort must be made, even by the diversion of shipping urgently needed for war purposes, to deal with local shortages'.The only British member of the colonial adminstration who did good work was Archibald wavell.
No he didn't. British shipping was stretched to breaking point by the war. Assuming that the shipping if it was available would have been able to navigate Bay of Bengal, infested with Japanese submarines, it would have had to come at the cost of greatly hampering the Allied war effort. Where shipping and supplies could be found (just one example is 150,000 tons of Iraqi barley and Australian wheat Churchill agreed should be sent In August 1943) they were used to relieve the famine.7.Churchills cabinet of war forbidded rice imports inspite of appeals by Linlithgow,Amery and auchincleck and wavell
Ah, the old Mr Tharoor approach of quote mining and ignoring context. The remarks you refer to are mainly paraphrases (sometimes of questionable accuracy) from Amery's diary, where Churchill would often discuss what aid could be sent in the same meetings he made them. But I apologize, I'm forgetting Churchill has to be held to the standard of sainthood, and only his faults remembered.And,We cant forget Churchill's racist remarks ,can we ?
i do still wonder what will be public reactions will be? Seeing the german colonies got ripped away and no gains from it whatsoever
Peaceful in some places, violent in others. In general, probably worse in former Hungarian territory than former AustrianAs for A/H will the split be like a yugoslavia like split? (A very violent one) or will it be a czechslovakia type split? (Which is peacefull) and will the allies object to germany absorpsing the german majority area?