Worst Written Alternate Timelines In Media

Don’t know if it counts as badly written as it’s more satire, but the monument art “CSA” is not good alternate history. Especially since it’s agreed the south never wanted to invade the north to make it confederate territory. Plus a regressive tax on those who don’t own slaves? That’s just dumb. Plus while there were rebels who wanted a tropical southern empire, I doubt any army could rule a land mass stretching from Barrow to Buenos Aires full of people who hate your guts especially with a more powerful Canada.

But as satire I find it good.

Also those crappy Spike TV what if shows were godawful.
Unconvincing thing about Ward Moore 's Bring the Jubilee.
 
“In real life”
The clean Wehrmacht should belong here but the monumental reveal in season 3 demonstrated that the show runners understood writing
neither the Wehrmacht nor ordinary Germans were clean, it was earth all along
For how not to do this: settler societies. Despite calls for change, the original storyline is intact. Sometimes with the ugly “no genocide, but here’s our excuse” ‘dying-race’ arc. Australia I’m looking at you. You managed to write yourself out of that ANZAC myth hole: the poor writing here is just pathetic.
 
The Freedoms Rangers series of books by Keith Andrews. The first book is actually pretty well written and thought out and I enjoyed it a fair amount. The sequels to it as the series progress get worse and worse as well as much shorter leading to a rushing of very implausible leaps of logic and even plot. Even taking into account that there are time machines involved, it gets very weird and hard to follow pretty fast as the first book was a fairly serious novel and it digresses into snarky over simplified novellas.
 
Ooh, right, The Big One where the US commits nuclear genocide against Nazi Germany and actual mutants start threatening the world.
 
In the "sequel"/reboot, North Korea throws off Communism in the 1970s and becomes a capitalist superpower because the Digital Revolution takes place there instead of in California's Silicon Valley. Thus, North Korea becomes the most economically powerful country in the world. Eventually it invades and occupies an impoverished pariah United States that defaulted on its debt to North Korea,
To quote the Zero Punctuation review of that game: ‘Guys, if you want the villain to be China, make the villain China’.
 
A repost from 2019:

The Grasshopper Lies Heavy. Yes, you read that right. Someone decided to make a alternate history novel and slap the name of the in-universe book from Man in the High Castle on the cover.

This is the literal description for it on Amazon.

"1966 -- a century after the Confederate States of America won the Civil War -- the Cold War rages.

The Soviets control the west coast. The British have The Colonies. The Confederacy is a powder keg in the middle.

A terrorist attack in dystopian Atlanta lights the fuse.

A Captain in the KKK grows disillusioned with his country. A widow who won’t grieve grows disillusioned with herself. A slave working at a weapons factory reaches his limits. A British invasion of Black Panthers. A Russian spy hides in plain sight. A President cashes in his chips.

The Grasshopper Lies Heavy tells the story of an America on the brink- of war, of identity, of starting over",



There is one more. The Fuhrer's Daughter.

Yep, you read that right. But don't be deceived. It's not about Adolf Hitler's daughter. It's about the daughter of the Fuhrer of German-occupied United States. What happened to the Fuhrer of the actual German Reich? That's simple. For that, they threw out the title of Fuhrer and replaced it with the Kaiser.

Yes, seriously.

I know that probably doesn't mean much for most of you, but it drives me around the bend. Here's the link if you want to check it out.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M2V3QZ6/ref=series_dp_rw_ca_1


In Homefront, North Korea (or rather, a Korea peacefully reunited by the North) becomes a superpower and invades and occupies the United States. You can imagine the liberties taken with plausibility.

I'm not going to lie, I actually like Homefront 1. Yes, it's stupid, but it's stupid in a 'so bad it's good' kinda way.
 
Another one that I haven't read, but have seen a summary of is Joe Steele by Turtledove. It basically makes it so that Stalin was always going to turn out evil. If Stalin had been born in California like in this story he'd be completely different. Even if he did have traits that would make him a crappy person its not like he'd become evil dictator president. There were lots of directions to go. Hell, you read about Stalin's early days in the communist party and he sounds more like a mob boss than a politician. That'd be a fun alternate history. Stalin as a gangster in the 20's. Heck, have all the world war two dictators end up in the US where Stalin is a criminal, Hitler is an architecht and Mussolini is an actor or something fun like that.
 
Another one that I haven't read, but have seen a summary of is Joe Steele by Turtledove. It basically makes it so that Stalin was always going to turn out evil. If Stalin had been born in California like in this story he'd be completely different. Even if he did have traits that would make him a crappy person its not like he'd become evil dictator president. There were lots of directions to go. Hell, you read about Stalin's early days in the communist party and he sounds more like a mob boss than a politician. That'd be a fun alternate history. Stalin as a gangster in the 20's. Heck, have all the world war two dictators end up in the US where Stalin is a criminal, Hitler is an architecht and Mussolini is an actor or something fun like that.

What's worse in my opinion is that Leon Trotsky is basically a Joseph Stalin expy. You have someone whose ideology was dedicated to spreading Communism around the world, and yet, you have him basically filling Stalin's shoes, with the only difference being that he and Steele hate each other.
 

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Another one that I haven't read, but have seen a summary of is Joe Steele by Turtledove. It basically makes it so that Stalin was always going to turn out evil.
The majority of Turtledove’s stories are cut and pastes of real history with the identities changed to suit his story.

“Wizard of what if”? More like “master of ctrl-c, ctrl-v”
 
Another one that I haven't read, but have seen a summary of is Joe Steele by Turtledove. It basically makes it so that Stalin was always going to turn out evil. If Stalin had been born in California like in this story he'd be completely different. Even if he did have traits that would make him a crappy person its not like he'd become evil dictator president. There were lots of directions to go. Hell, you read about Stalin's early days in the communist party and he sounds more like a mob boss than a politician. That'd be a fun alternate history. Stalin as a gangster in the 20's. Heck, have all the world war two dictators end up in the US where Stalin is a criminal, Hitler is an architecht and Mussolini is an actor or something fun like that.
There was a great thread going a couple months back on Stalin-as-mobster in the US :)
I think Mussolini would go back to being an editor and publisher, later branching into radio and television and creating an early multimedia conglomerate... (MTV - Mussolini Television? :p)
 
Most of TL-191, but in particular American Empire and Settling Accounts. Not because they're irredeemable drek, but because they're just so fucking disappointing.

Pretty much everything by Robert Conroy is thinly sketched "I want the US to fight the Nazis alone, the Nazis start off with a few wins to look scary, then GLORIOUS 'MURICA single-handedly saves the day!!!" nationalist masturbation. Even when the enemy is Imperial Germany, Conroy always contrives to make them Nazis before the end of the book.
 
Stars and Stripes Forever certainly springs to mind.
Oh is that the one where Ironclads cross the Atlantic (without sinking) and trounce the 'wooden hulled' RN repeatedly

Every land battle is won because of Gatling guns (I guess the Royal Artillery Regiment had taken the war off)

Harrison went the Hollywood route - don't let historical facts get in the way of a story
 

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Oh is that the one where Ironclads cross the Atlantic (without sinking) and trounce the 'wooden hulled' RN repeatedly

Every land battle is won because of Gatling guns (I guess the Royal Artillery Regiment had taken the war off)

Harrison went the Hollywood route - don't let historical facts get in the way of a story
My favourite part of it all is the original premise. The confederates manage to get the British into the War (richmond’s wet dream) and then abandon it all because of what is essentially a friendly-fire incident?
 
My favourite part of it all is the original premise. The confederates manage to get the British into the War (richmond’s wet dream) and then abandon it all because of what is essentially a friendly-fire incident?
Oh we have made a navigational blunder and attacked the wrong city - oh well lets sack it anyway - insert monocle, twist moustache, make evil laugh

His other books were good - this trilogy was just appallingly bad.
 

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Oh we have made a navigational blunder and attacked the wrong city - oh well lets sack it anyway - insert monocle, twist moustache, make evil laugh
Even then, at the price of British intervention, you’d bite your lip and make only the most formal of protests (whilst planning to arrange damages after the War) to ensure the British stay on your side, surely?

The whole sacking the city and world’s premier navy ‘getting lost’ is the usual American casual anti-British nonsense, but the attitude of the confederates broke it for me.
 
Oh is that the one where Ironclads cross the Atlantic (without sinking) and trounce the 'wooden hulled' RN repeatedly

Every land battle is won because of Gatling guns (I guess the Royal Artillery Regiment had taken the war off)

Harrison went the Hollywood route - don't let historical facts get in the way of a story

My favourite part of it all is the original premise. The confederates manage to get the British into the War (richmond’s wet dream) and then abandon it all because of what is essentially a friendly-fire incident?

The only book I have physically thrown away, got about 50 pages in.
 
My own writing?

Seriously, I wanna say the newer version of 'a disturbance of fate', bring the jubilee, newt Gingrich's pearl harbor books, the csa mockumentary, 1901, Dukakis and the aliens, the war of '07, Hamilton, the league of extraordinary gentlemen movie.
 
Most of TL-191, but in particular American Empire and Settling Accounts. Not because they're irredeemable drek, but because they're just so fucking disappointing.
Yeah, pretty much.

Like: while CSA survival until 1914 is unrealistic, it has definite narrative potential. But it gets completely messed up in favour of parallelism to the max.
 
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