What if Yeltsin saw that Putin would be a tyrant? Would he still have appointed Putin?
WI: Yeltsin sees Putin for what he truly is
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Given Yeltsin's health would he even had been able to "stand up" to Putin after appointing him?
Between Putin's appointment as PM and Yeltsin's resignation are only 5-6 months
Between Putin's appointment as PM and Yeltsin's resignation are only 5-6 months
The whole point of the Putin appointment was to ensure a successor who wouldn't send "The Family" to jail.
By the end Yeltsin-or rather the Family since Yeltsin himself was non compos mentis much of the time-didn't care about anything else.
By the end Yeltsin-or rather the Family since Yeltsin himself was non compos mentis much of the time-didn't care about anything else.
Well 1 Yeltsin wasn't exactly conducive to democracy as he gave in to the oligarchs and watched Russia plundered by not just them but himself as well.
Putin while not conducive to democracy ( that is such a vague term, as the term democracy means jack crap, unless it's your democracy ) was like Reagan and Andrew Jackson, Russia was falling apart, Mafi, oligarchs, the military, national pride at very low levels. Putin did some questionable things to hold the nation together, ( and still does by supporting certain people ), however his gambles have paid off to a large extent as he has forced Russia back on the world stage, he is shrewd, calculating, and a russian patriot, and oligarch who in good russian tradition has robbed the treasury, ensured his own power while still giving a nod to democracy just enough to keep the image somewhat intact among the people.
Best thing would have been to take what he had and not ran again and turns it over to new blood.
All this said there are much less savory people than Putin
Russia had a chance at a more democratic system for about 3 months, but the leadership simply want there
Putin while not conducive to democracy ( that is such a vague term, as the term democracy means jack crap, unless it's your democracy ) was like Reagan and Andrew Jackson, Russia was falling apart, Mafi, oligarchs, the military, national pride at very low levels. Putin did some questionable things to hold the nation together, ( and still does by supporting certain people ), however his gambles have paid off to a large extent as he has forced Russia back on the world stage, he is shrewd, calculating, and a russian patriot, and oligarch who in good russian tradition has robbed the treasury, ensured his own power while still giving a nod to democracy just enough to keep the image somewhat intact among the people.
Best thing would have been to take what he had and not ran again and turns it over to new blood.
All this said there are much less savory people than Putin
Russia had a chance at a more democratic system for about 3 months, but the leadership simply want there
The Parliament shot first (and spoiled my plans for a Sunday evening pint.
).Pesigalam
Banned
Impossible. Voldemort Putler's mastery of the Dark Arts is so great he can cloud the judgment of even the most hardened warriors fighting for the side of Good and Democracy. Don't you know that the Leader of the Free World and Liberator of Iraq, the illustrious Bush the Second was unable to tell the truth even as he stared into Putler's eyes?
Really, Putin-the-Darkest-One's power to camouflage his true intentions is second only to Darth Jar-Jar Binks.
And now that Putin controls Murca, his plans for global domination are almost complete and definitely unstoppable...
Why were American-Russia relations good in the Yeltsin era but bad in the Putin era?
James G
Gone Fishin'
They weren't good. Chechnya, Kosovo, Norwegian Rocket Incident, spies and a lot more.
Wesley Clarke did his best to start WWIII with the Russians in 1999 when Russian SFOR units seized the airport at Pristina before the US could invade and install an Albanian "government" in Kosovo.
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Yeltsin was too busy being drunk to do anything like, you know, doing something about Islamic extremists having taken over areas of the country. If he didn't do anything about, he sure wouldn't do anything of importance in foreign affairs.
Insider
Banned
Strong handed. Check.
Brings economy to working order (more or less). Check.
Independent from the west. Check
Doesn't persecute Old Guard unless they oppose him. Check
Result Yeltsin retires earlier, leaving Putin as his designated successor.
In the 1990s Russia was too weak to flex it's muscles. It's hard to influence world events when your economy is collapsing, you're barely staving off separatist revolts, and disputes between the various branches of government end in blows.
During the Putin era Russia largely solved those problems, and gained a big advantage from high oil prices. Thus, they were able to flex their muscles and pursue their agenda.
Hunter W.
Banned
Just think the 1990's in the Russian Federation was basically going through more or less a economic depression unemployment and poverty just were out of proportion, debt exploded and really the Military just lost its former Soviet clout, there was even the idea of suspending elections in 1996 and Boris Yeltsin being the constitutional dictator.