Provided his OTL wife doesn't get her hooks into him firstThe eldest daughter of Joanna of England can marry Ferdinand I of Portugal instead.
Provided his OTL wife doesn't get her hooks into him firstThe eldest daughter of Joanna of England can marry Ferdinand I of Portugal instead.
John's easy. Just keep Blanche alive longer. Edmund I'm not so sure about...Another change this causes - besides England not being involved in Castile - is that the whole OTL house of York is butterflied and both Edmund of Langley and John of Gaunt will need different wives.
My thread on the topic from some time ago:
https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-edward-iiis-daughter-joan-survives.478588/
IIRC, Edward III tried to have Edmund matched with Margaret of Flanders, but this was unsuccessful. Perhaps the negotiations could prove successful ITTL? Margaret's marriage to Philip of Burgundy was after the POD, if memory serves, so it's technically possible.John's easy. Just keep Blanche alive longer. Edmund I'm not so sure about...
John of Portugal's ascension to the throne is likely butterflied away, considering that the events that led to it are very tightly tied to Trastámaran Castile, which I think we all agree is less likely to exist here. This has genuinely enormous longterm consequences for the Iberian peninsula and the world, considering that John is arguably Portugal's greatest king and set the stage for the kingdom to become a world power.Maybe one of Joan's daughters can marry John of Portugal instead of Phillippa of Lancaster?
I think Ferdinand had a prestigious foreign match that he threw away in OTL because he was infatuated with Leonor Teles? He may end up doing the same in ATL.The eldest daughter of Joanna of England can marry Ferdinand I of Portugal instead.
Unlikely. Her grandma made it clear that she'd disinherit Marguerite if the marriage took place IIRCIIRC, Edward III tried to have Edmund matched with Margaret of Flanders, but this was unsuccessful. Perhaps the negotiations could prove successful ITTL? Margaret's marriage to Philip of Burgundy was after the POD, if memory serves, so it's technically possible.
Jeanne de Penthièvre tried for a match between her daughter and one of Edward III's sons OTL, even sent the dowager comtesse d'Angoulême to England for some months, but the price was Edward dropping his support for Jean de Montfort and Ed refused to bite. Given that Jean V's sister was in England practically her whole life and she wasn't considered for one of Ed's sons, so whether that would go through is debatable.Maybe Brittany, if Edward III wants another anti-French match?
Who's available?Maybe Brittany, if Edward III wants another anti-French match?
Marie of Blois, OTL Duchess of Anjou was born 1340/45, meaning she would suit either John or Edmund age-wise, but that requires Edward III to drop his support for the Montforts. Or, if he doesn't, Joan of Brittany, John IV's sister would also work, age-wise.Who's available?
I wonder...all are interesting choicesMarie of Blois, OTL Duchess of Anjou was born 1340/45, meaning she would suit either John or Edmund age-wise, but that requires Edward III to drop his support for the Montforts. Or, if he doesn't, Joan of Brittany, John IV's sister would also work, age-wise.
Possibly Joan of Burgundy, (b.1344)
With Blanche and Elizabeth de Clare/Eleanor de Bohun off the market, English heiresses are a bit harder to come by.
As stated above though, Edward III was keen to marry one of his sons to Margaret of Flanders, so she's another possible bride for either Edmund or John.I wonder...all are interesting choices
True...As stated above though, Edward III was keen to marry one of his sons to Margaret of Flanders, so she's another possible bride for either Edmund or John.
Another possible match for Edmund is Joanna of Auvergne-Burgundy.Marie of Blois, OTL Duchess of Anjou was born 1340/45, meaning she would suit either John or Edmund age-wise, but that requires Edward III to drop his support for the Montforts. Or, if he doesn't, Joan of Brittany, John IV's sister would also work, age-wise.
Possibly Joan of Burgundy, (b.1344)
With Blanche and Elizabeth de Clare/Eleanor de Bohun off the market, English heiresses are a bit harder to come by.
As stated above though, Edward III was keen to marry one of his sons to Margaret of Flanders, so she's another possible bride for either Edmund or John.
Unlikely. Her grandma made it clear that she'd disinherit Marguerite if the marriage took place IIRC
Not that many heiresses up for grabs at this pointAnother option would be Blanche or Marguerite de Bourbon (OTL queen of Castile and dame d'Albret). The former would be sister-in-law to the dauphin while the dame d'Albret married the guy originally intended for Isabella of Woodstock. Otherwise, an English heiress for York is not too unlikely