WI: Islam encourages artistic expression

[Nivek]

If the earliest muslim invaders identified more with Queen zenobia and Mawia and see their raids as continuation of the same conflict maybe they had different views on arts ?

Dunno how is related?

 

[Monk78]

Dunno how is related?

arab nationalism rather than a religious creed

 

[Nivek]

arab nationalism rather than a religious creed

No in topic and why care?

 

[Monk78]

No in topic and why care?

artistic expressions if they are centered only around cultural /ethnic identity may be more appealing to a society deeply steeped in tribal traditions

 

[Nivek]

Perhaps but still is something would be very niche... again if muslim where more successful against the romans, the syriac jundist could push it, yet again persia was more artistic that ERE and took a while for miniatures to come back

artistic expressions if they are centered only around cultural /ethnic identity may be more appealing to a society deeply steeped in tribal traditions

 

[snassni2]

From what I know, poetry was very popular in the muslim world. There were even "poetry battles".

 

[Nivek]

From what I know, poetry was very popular in the muslim world. There were even "poetry battles".

Yeah and mushawaw that is like spoken chained words

That is why is malik

 

[piratedude]

But don't you think that having no controversy over the role of music and dance and instead an outright universal approval would have a tangible effect?

Well if images and the like aren't specifically called out its not unlikely that there would still be an iconoclastic movement within islam that could precipitate conflict and possibly even full blown schism, much like what happened in eastern Christianity (though that conflict was helped along by political factors)

 

[Gloss]

Well if images and the like aren't specifically called out its not unlikely that there would still be an iconoclastic movement within islam that could precipitate conflict and possibly even full blown schism, much like what happened in eastern Christianity (though that conflict was helped along by political factors)

Why is iconoclasm something that would inherently arise? As opposed to say to the idea that there will be always some people that would want to draw things or create certain kinds of art, which would, according to this theory, create conflict in a society that is essentially already iconoclastic?

 

[Nivek]

Well if images and the like aren't specifically called out its not unlikely that there would still be an iconoclastic movement within islam that could precipitate conflict and possibly even full blown schism, much like what happened in eastern Christianity (though that conflict was helped along by political factors)

Why is iconoclasm something that would inherently arise? As opposed to say to the idea that there will be always some people that would want to draw things or create certain kinds of art, which would, according to this theory, create conflict in a society that is essentially already iconoclastic?

He wanted a weaker islam so europe could rule then?

 

[piratedude]

Why is iconoclasm something that would inherently arise? As opposed to say to the idea that there will be always some people that would want to draw things or create certain kinds of art, which would, according to this theory, create conflict in a society that is essentially already iconoclastic?

I just see it as a natural strain of thought that occurs in Abrahamic religions

 

[Nivek]

I just see it as a natural strain of thought that occurs in Abrahamic religions

Islam got it... Divisions always where political