WI: An Scythian Kingdom was established

Archaeological research into the existence of the Amazons is only a recent phenomena. For years the Amazons were thought of as a purely mythological phenomena with little backing in scientific evidence. It was not until quite recently (within the mid-90's) that excavations in the Altai mountain range of Mongolia, that actual hard evidence surfaced which could possible relate to the Amazons (the research is continually on-going, please visit the Center for the Study of Eurasian Nomads for more information and current excavations). In 1993, Natalia Polosmak set out for the Ukok Plateau, precariously located where four countries, China, Russia, Kazikstan, and Mongolia, meet. Polosmak and her team of archaeologists set out to unearth a kurgan, a burial structure of an ancient peoples known as the Pazyryk. When the excavation of the kurgan concluded, Polosomak and her team had found the remains of an ancient Pazyryk woman. The unearthed Pazyryk woman was tall, 5'7", deliberately mummified, had elaborate tattoo's on her amazingly well preserved skin, was surrounded by numerous burial goods including an extremely long feathered head piece, and was buried in a coffin carved from an entire larch tree. The find was dated to around the 5th century BC, around the time of Herodotus.



(Migration map of the Scythians from the Altai Mountain region)
Polosomak's find is commonly referred to as the 'Siberian ice maiden', and is only one find of many which has added to a continuum of information about the Eurasian nomads since the time of ancient Greece. Following Polosomak's discovery, other unearthed kurgans have had similar finds, mummified bodies with elaborate tattoos, some buried with horses, and in some instances, women and men buried with weapons, which obviously were not for ornamental purposes. Some of the mummified bodies show signs of being bow-legged, indicative of a life led on horseback. Other bodies show wear from battle wounds or similar disputes. Such finds indicate several things, that life within the Eurasian steppes during the 5th century was difficult, and that the tribe to which the ice-maiden belonged was nomadic, traveled a great deal, and held the status of women greatly.

Although further evidence remains to be found, theories have circulated that the ice maiden and her tribe were in fact a part of a nomadic tribe known as the Scythians. The Scythians settled into the northern part of modern day Turkey and the Black Sea region during the 7th century BC and continued their occupation of that territory well into the 5th century BC. The Scythians had an extensive artistic tradition, and a knowledge of the equestrian arts. Similarities do exist between the artistic style and lifestyles of the ice maiden, and the Scythian peoples. According to numerous sources, the Scythians originally came from the Altai mountain region of Eurasia.

According to Herodotus the Scythians incorporated the Amazons into their tribe. According to Greek myth the Amazons existed as a completely autonomous tribe. The obvious questions thus follow: were the Amazons actually Scythian women who fought alongside the men, were they a branch off the original Scythian tribe who chose to live by the tenets ascribed to them by classical Greek myth, or did they just exist as an extended myth influenced by the high status the Scythians attributed to women? These questions cannot be entirely ascertained from present archaeological evidence. Certainly the Scythians held the status of women to a high degree, and burials have been found where women show actual signs of being in battle or of leading a tough life, but were these women the actual Amazons of Greek mythology?


So what If...the Sauromate tribes of the Sycthians could have sparked an earleir Feminist revolutionin 5th century B.C.? All the Scythian Women would need is an highly Intelegent/Charasmatic leader to help them set up on Civilization. How could the Sauromate cvilizations hold off the Persians,Macedonians and countless others and what effect would have on today's women? Please feel free to disscuss.
 
For Straha

Consider that perhaps one reason why there was never a more advanced Scythian kingdome was because they used cannabis extensively in their ceremonies. This could also account for their tatoos,
"I got what? Another Tatoo!, Oh amn what's my wife going to say?"
 
even so, i know respected intellectuals who use cannibas...
anyway
the celts also held women in high esteem, maybe in a world where both the celts and the amazons are prevalent women will be treated better. i am not too sure how much an amazon queendom would affect history, don't know the era too well, but...

i think it'd be cool
 
Phaeton said:
Interesting.....Cannibals i had know idea

CANNABIS...NOT CANNIBALS!!! :eek: The Scythians used marijuana...apparently they would pile cannabis leaves on fires, erect a tent over them, and gather underneath to inhale the smoke during some of their religious ceremonies.

Now, the Scythians were apparently head hunters (according to historical accounts, anyway), and supposedly made drinking cups from the skulls of their defeated enemies. But I don't believe they were actually CANNIBALS in that I have seen no accounts that they actually consumed the flesh of their enemies.
 
So does anyone think it's possible for maybe an Amazonic group to emerge and rech supremecy in the Scythian groups?
 
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