WI: 9/11 was done by Neo-Nazis?

It would be weirdly interesting if German Neo-Nazis did such an attack. Like, descendants of actual Nazis who were secretly brought up in the ideology. Most alt-right people wouldn't have the guts to do a suicide attack, but an actual Nazi fanatic probably would ram a plane into a building just to go to Valhalla.
 
Al-Qaeda's strategic goal in 9/11 was to draw American military power into the Middle East and help pave the way for the establishment of a new caliphate, both by radicalizing the Middle East's Muslims against the West and by deposing various secular dictatorships in the region.

What would be the strategic goal that neo-Nazis would be trying to achieve by means of a similar attack? I'd expect it would have to involve provoking anti-white retaliatory violence by black Americans (or whichever other minorities the neo-Nazis ultimately wanted to destroy)?

Why then did al-Qaeda hit the towers at the time they did, rather than a few hours later when they could have got a much bigger body count?
Probably the long haul big aircraft take off early in the morning. I not sure the operation was that well planned.
They achieved their goal with what they did and got the reaction they wanted. The numbers killed were not important after that.
The towers collapsing was more important than the numbers killed.
 
Al-Qaeda's strategic goal in 9/11 was to draw American military power into the Middle East and help pave the way for the establishment of a new caliphate, both by radicalizing the Middle East's Muslims against the West and by deposing various secular dictatorships in the region.

What would be the strategic goal that neo-Nazis would be trying to achieve by means of a similar attack? I'd expect it would have to involve provoking anti-white retaliatory violence by black Americans (or whichever other minorities the neo-Nazis ultimately wanted to destroy)?

Why then did al-Qaeda hit the towers at the time they did, rather than a few hours later when they could have got a much bigger body count?

Supposedly because the early airline flights would have been less full making the passengers easier to control by a handful of men equipped with box cutters.
 
It would be weirdly interesting if German Neo-Nazis did such an attack. Like, descendants of actual Nazis who were secretly brought up in the ideology. Most alt-right people wouldn't have the guts to do a suicide attack, but an actual Nazi fanatic probably would ram a plane into a building just to go to Valhalla.
Sounds like the Golden Eye plot.
 
What if events of September 11th,2001 occurred identically to OTL except the terrorists were american white supremacists and Far-right groups applauded and claimed responsibility for the acts? How would the government and populace respond? What would the culture be like?
The Manson Family
 

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A 9/11 esque attack is unlikely but there is Leo Fulton and Erica Chase's plot to blow up the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM) using a fertilizer bomb and the assassination plot to kill Jesse Jackson and Steven Spielberg all of which was planned in 2002. Just imagine the double digit amounts of people being killed had it been successful if a donut attendant hadn't spotted Fulton's counterfeit $20 bill it would trigger a national backlash against white nationalism and neo-Nazism leading the United States government to crack down on these types of groups.
 
Actually, "The Sum of All Fears" featured a nuclear terrorist attack on the Super Bowl by middle eastern terrorists. In the film version (after 9/11), the perpetrators were changed to neo-Nazis (former East Germans, IIRC). The president was in attendance in both versions. The weapon, BTW, was a Soviet warhead "lost" after the USSR's collapse.
I think he was referring to "Debt of Honour" where after a second US Japanese war (over Saipan of all places) the airline pilot father of a dead Japanese fighter pilot Kamikazi's a 747 into the Capitol Building.
 
What if events of September 11th,2001 occurred identically to OTL except the terrorists were american white supremacists and Far-right groups applauded and claimed responsibility for the acts? How would the government and populace respond? What would the culture be like?
Maybe Charles Manson developes an unhealthy obsession with the buildings during the 70es in prison and gives orders to followers as part of ,Helter Skelter'. Manson family members OTL cooperated with Aryan prison gangs in violant actions outside or joined them.
 
Hmmm. Presumably these Neo Nazis don’t have too many obvious tattooed that would make them considered suspicious and have their luggage searched? I feel attacking the United Nations might be seen as more appealing. There is the issue though of how I don’t think Neo-Nazis have a history of suicide attacks. Attacks where they go out shooting or get behind barricades or surrender? Maybe. Anyways, I assume these guys will need a day job as they don’t have foreign backing to pay for everything. Things like the Oklahoma City Bombing were probably more cost efficient. A big thing you would have to handle if you wanted Neo-Nazis, rather than some other group who did terrorism against occupied buildings rather than beating people in back alleys, is the sense of patriotism. Blowing up buildings that you see as having the history of your country or showing off your superiority to the world may make some hesitate. Plus unlike with Al Qaeda, Neo-Nazis would presumably have more emotional attachments and leak information. That is another thing, of course. Wasn’t it that, like around the time of Norman Rockwell and the American Nazi Party, that half the membership were FBI informants or spies?
 
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Norman's art might have had a slight reactionary overtone at times, but I think the Rockwell you're looking for is George Lincoln!
Ahhhh, right. Lincoln Rockwell. Yah, Norman was always fairly anti-racist with his art, quitting from his magazine employer when they declined art involving people with darker skin pigments too often.
 
A big thing you would have to handle if you wanted Neo-Nazis, rather than some other group who did terrorism against occupied buildings rather than beating people in back alleys, is the sense of patriotism. Blowing up buildings that you see as having the history of your country or showing off your superiority to the world may make some hesitate. Plus unlike with Al Qaeda, Neo-Nazis would presumably have more emotional attachments and leak information.

Neo-Nazis have a rather one-track mind, so it would be fairly simple to spin the WTC as being "monuments to degenerate Judeo-Bolshevik Finance Capitalism infesting the purity of White America with insidious Zionist Globalism". Hell, New York City being the cosmopolitan multicultural melting pot that it is, with its various minority groups (particularly with its large Jewish community), it not being the target of Neo-Nazi terror attacks would be implausible.
 
Neo-Nazis have a rather one-track mind, so it would be fairly simple to spin the WTC as being "monuments to degenerate Judeo-Bolshevik Finance Capitalism infesting the purity of White America with insidious Zionist Globalism". Hell, New York City being the cosmopolitan multicultural melting pot that it is, with its various minority groups (particularly with its large Jewish community), it not being the target of Neo-Nazi terror attacks would be implausible.
A couple truck bombs in minority areas might be seen as working better than killing themselves destroying buildings for office workers, given their assumptions about most minorities minorities being less intelligent than whites.
 
Rushing into houses of worship and spraying everyone in there with automatic fire even in the face of armed guards is one thing, doing the human missile thing from Independence Day with One and Two World Trade Center as the Mothership is quite another. Aside from better targets out there for there ire like the United Nations, the World Bank, the New York Stock Exachange building, Yeshiva University, and the New York Times, those folks are much more likely to use semi trailers worth of explosives in parking garages, or if they are going the whole James Cameron/Michael Bay route, usurping Boeing airliners via remote control and crashing them into targets that way, or trying to and failing hilariously. Kamikazes they are not.
 
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