Europe and Eastern Asia are entirely red, save for the UK and maybe mainland Japan. The Soviet Union could very easily handle a war on two fronts; something Germany couldn't handle. The war may end a year or two later but that's because the Soviets are busy bee lining to Nanking and Paris.
What if the US stays out of world war two and the Japanese invade Siberia instead of Manchuria
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The Beer Hall Putsch was in 1923. The Allies certainly wouldn't abide Hitler's coup and even if they did then this Germany would collapse in on itself. I doubt it would have the means nor the support (it was a coup, not an election) to begin WW2 and by 1939 the German economy was on the verge of total collapse -- that would be 1929 in this TL, right after the Great Depression.
Edit: Also, obligatory apologies for the double-post.
If that coup was successful, we would see the British and the French march right into Berlin and take out the NSDAP.
Alex Sherman Cadriella
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But someone tweeted what happened after the performance.:
It is all relative. IOTL Hitler sought to increase living standards, that significantly delayed militarisation.
ITTL Hitler takes power far earlier and large-scale industrialisation starts from the beginning, much like Stalin did IOTL.
In 1932, southern Germany have been building upp for nearly 7 years, have an offensive army above the million. In their attack against the Czechs, they are helped by Hungaryan, Croatia, Slovenian armies and a Slovak rebellion.
Having taken control of Czech industry and gained a new allie (Slovakia), 1933 Romania is even less of a problem.
Only in TTL 1936, where Hitler have been in power for nearly 13 years(longer than the 3rd Reich existed IOTL), does united Germany reachs IOTL 1940 military level.
TTL 1937: Central Powers armies are the size of IOTL european axis armies in 1941 and 1942.
TTL 1938: Industry of France, Belgium and Holland is quickly absorbed into the general war effort.
Industrial production is enhanced even further by that, reaches the level of 1944 axis by the end of the year.
While TTL Germany have taken large losses, it have faced no Kursk-type event yet.
As a result, military and industrial capacities of the central powers continue to grow further.
TTL 1939: Central Power´s military strenght, technological advance and industrial power reaches a level unseen by IOTL european axis.
Britain only reachs IOTL 1942-1943 level.
Sovietic large-scale industrialisation and technological advance have been delayed by several years.
Thus, even if Red army has reached IOTL 1942 strenght(and far better battle experience), it cannot grow much beyond that level.
Garrison
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Sorry but 1923 is not 1933. In 1923 Germany fell into hyperinflation, it was broke on level far beyond the economic mess it was in a decade later, which Hitler's rearmament plans made far worse. Also in 1923 there is no appeasement, France sent troops into the Ruhr at the start of 1923 over reparation payments, they will march to Berlin if Hitler is talking about revenge and retaking Alsace-Lorraine, which he will because Hitler doesn't do subtle. Of course this assumes that the coup can succeed in 1923, which it almost certainly can't. In 933 The Nazi Party had a degree of political legitimacy and there was a cadre of political, military, and business leaders willing to support putting him in office. That coalition of interests doesn't exist in 1923, there is no way Hitler's ramshackle band of supporters will be allowed to take power by the German army, never mind the Entente, which is still intensely hostile to Germany at this time.