Hey folks, this is another "What if the USSR won the Cold War" thread. I know there have been many of those over the years, but the latest is like a year old and I think the standart of alternatehistory.com has improved since then (more scientific discussions, and many new well-read people). However that could also just be my personal impression.
Anyway, what is the most realistic scenario for a soviet victory in the cold war? The world doesn't have to go red in the 20th century and the USSR doesn't have to be the most powerfull nation economically and militarily. However many more nations have to become socialist and the socialist camp (unofficially led by the USSR) has to be more powerfull than the capitalist one, making an effective anti-communist alliance impossible. Wheater the capitalist camp collapses completely as a hegemonic bloc (with NATO dissolving and some capitalist nations beginning to lean towards the USSR for practical reasons), or the remaining few capitalist nations continue to pose futile opposition to world socialism, doesn't matter. Socialism continues to spread in the third world and the communist parties become increasingly popular in the industrial capitalist countries. All signs indicate that the future belongs to socialism, and the ever growing socialist camp only waits for the ultimate victory of the world revolution.
Furthermore, the socialist camp has to survive to this very day, and has to remain more powerfull than any remaining capitalist alliance. The POD has to be after 9. of May, 1945. And before someone claims now that "the USSR was destined to fall from the very beginning", I don't buy into that. Some limited market reforms are allowed in this scenario, however the USSR has to remain socialist. Apart from that, everything is allowed, including Cybersyn, no Sino-Soviet split and a soviet moon landing.
How would the world look like? How would the geopollitical situation develope? What would culture be like within and out of the socialist camp? How long could the USSR remain the most powerfull/influential nation?
Bonus points if the cold war remains cold.
Double bonus points if it's a positive scenario
(and it could definetly be one. I'm reffering to my post in the "North Korea is best Korea" scenario https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/ahc-north-korea-is-best-korea.487717/. And if I can make North Korea a prosperous socialist democracy, a shining beacon of leftist thought, you can certainly make a soviet victory positive ).
Anyway, what is the most realistic scenario for a soviet victory in the cold war? The world doesn't have to go red in the 20th century and the USSR doesn't have to be the most powerfull nation economically and militarily. However many more nations have to become socialist and the socialist camp (unofficially led by the USSR) has to be more powerfull than the capitalist one, making an effective anti-communist alliance impossible. Wheater the capitalist camp collapses completely as a hegemonic bloc (with NATO dissolving and some capitalist nations beginning to lean towards the USSR for practical reasons), or the remaining few capitalist nations continue to pose futile opposition to world socialism, doesn't matter. Socialism continues to spread in the third world and the communist parties become increasingly popular in the industrial capitalist countries. All signs indicate that the future belongs to socialism, and the ever growing socialist camp only waits for the ultimate victory of the world revolution.
Furthermore, the socialist camp has to survive to this very day, and has to remain more powerfull than any remaining capitalist alliance. The POD has to be after 9. of May, 1945. And before someone claims now that "the USSR was destined to fall from the very beginning", I don't buy into that. Some limited market reforms are allowed in this scenario, however the USSR has to remain socialist. Apart from that, everything is allowed, including Cybersyn, no Sino-Soviet split and a soviet moon landing.
How would the world look like? How would the geopollitical situation develope? What would culture be like within and out of the socialist camp? How long could the USSR remain the most powerfull/influential nation?
Bonus points if the cold war remains cold.
Double bonus points if it's a positive scenario
(and it could definetly be one. I'm reffering to my post in the "North Korea is best Korea" scenario https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/ahc-north-korea-is-best-korea.487717/. And if I can make North Korea a prosperous socialist democracy, a shining beacon of leftist thought, you can certainly make a soviet victory positive ).
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