A Mali Empire where they don’t end up turning into a wank and end up colonizing Brazil
Well in mine they were wanked but they didnt get any new world coloniesA Mali Empire where they don’t end up turning into a wank and end up colonizing Brazil
Or we could go with the other important Indian maritime culture that nobody ever seems to talk about, Gujarat! Seriously did you know Vasco De Gama was guided on his famous voyage by sailors from the place? Its also really interesting as not only is it one of the strongholds of the Zoroastrian Parsi Community but also Jainism and I can’t remember the last time any even brought up that religion up in alt history.I'll take a page of everyone who mentioned the Cholas and also go against them and say the Pandyas
I like them much more and they were just as influential
I dobut also Jainism and I can’t remember the last time any even brought up that religion up in alt history.
Is it Tonga time? I think it is Tonga time!Perhaps the Tongan "Empire"? With it at least maintaining its position beyond 1500 (rather than starting to decline) so when the Europeans reach that part of the Pacific in the early 17th C some form of wider unified society across a number of island groups?
Actually the northern Yuan especially, even in games like EU4 they just call it “Mongolia” despite it being the last vestiges of the Great Yuan that lasted for hundreds of years after being expelled from ChinaThe rump Mongol khanates (yes, including the Yuan) certainly need more love.
Do you have a link to thatWell in mine they were wanked but they didnt get any new world colonies
Then again nobody did
Its my signature TL, Flower of AlysDo you have a link to that
Latin Empire is pretty underrated. Everyone loves the Byzantines, and then there's a minority of people who got sick of Byzantophilia so will write about the Ottomans, but never the Latin Empire. This is despite many opportunities for the Latin Empire itself to survive or even be restored after its collapse and the link between the Latin Empire and many important families in Western Europe.
without forgetting also that the crusaders who occupied the Rhomania, maintained as much as possible the habits and customs of the imperial court and administration in Constantinople and at a local level, a mixed class was seen forming from marriages between Latins and "Greeks" ( the Gasmoulis ) with very interesting future implications, Boniface of Monferrato himself could count on a very large network of local ties, previously built by his family members ( just remember that Andronicus was not the only pretender to the imperial purple in 1181, his niece Maria was also there and her husband Ranieri ( Boniface's older brother ) who was killed immediately after the arrival of Andronicus in the city, the same Latin empire had several times had the possibility of getting rid of an enemy on its borders ( in particular towards the Epirus ) but only its chronic shortage of manpower prevented its success ( a problem that gripped any existing Crusader state, as well as their fragmentation ), finally the Komnenos themselves and the subsequent Paleologos were increasingly introducing traditions of "Frankish" origin, so much so that in some cases they ended up admiring the customs ( see Manuel who in his father's intentions was to become a sort of prince of Outremer ) or of Theodore I who he ended up inheriting Monferrato and after a few years he completely assimilated that when he returned to visit his father Andronicus II in Constantinople, he was considered by everyone to have become 100% Latin
On that note, one potential alternate history I could see is a "No Ottomans" scenario in which a rump Rhomania in Thrace/Macedonia/Western Anatolia and the aforementioned Frankokratia Remnants develop separate national identities in which Rhomania maintains a Rhomaioi identity while something like the revival of Hellenic identity in modern Greece IOTL occurs in the duchies you mentioned.without forgetting also the other states derived from the 4th Crusade, such as the Duchies of Athens and Achaea ( which lasted for another 200 years, remaining important players in Greek politics, in particular Achaea, which had developed the largest number of supporters among its Rhomanoi population, leading to the creation of a very interesting local identity )
On that note, one potential alternate history I could see is a "No Ottomans" scenario in which a rump Rhomania in Thrace/Macedonia/Western Anatolia and the aforementioned Frankokratia Remnants develop separate national identities in which Rhomania maintains a Rhomaioi identity while something like the revival of Hellenic identity in modern Greece IOTL occurs in the duchies you mentioned.
The rump Mongol khanates (yes, including the Yuan) certainly need more love.
That was personal man.... Are we gonna have Ponniyan Selvan III 😂I'll take a page of everyone who mentioned the Cholas and also go against them and say the Pandyas
I like them much more and they were just as influential