The Yankee Dominion: A Map and World Building Project
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This is going to be part 1 of my ongoing final check of the world, filling in plot holes and trying to get a character of the world down. This is an exercise in trying to understand what happened here, and these are all suggestions so don’t assume they automatically need to be taken for granted.
Part 1 – Mexico and Central America
Part 1 – Mexico and Central America
Current canon has a Big Mexico that existed the Colombian Revolution under her own volition, separate from the efforts down south. Then in the early 1900s, we currently have a handwave that has Mexico fall apart. So, this part will attempt to establish a backstory for the revolution.
Mexico became independent thanks in part to the ‘black robes’ of the Jesuits who came back shortly after a similar OTL expulsion, and used their ties with both the peasants and the landowners to coordinate revolution Mexico became independent with all the mainland, minus Cuba. She quietly left the Colombians to their struggles, and withdrew from affairs south of Panama. Mexico does not escape the civil unrest that sweeps Latin America post-revolution, this is how Nicaragua and Costa Rica get free and remain free of their two large neighbors. This is all already written in my Colombian Revolution post.
Pre-Rev, Mexico looks like this:
What I wish to explore is how Mexico comes to fall apart. I think the answer lies in this established revolutionary era and geopolitics. Mexico faces unrest, and the two groups with the most power at the time were the generals and the ‘nationalist’ church and their liberal allies. What I am proposing is the church wins this conflict, which is why the warlord peninsula states remain free. These liberals get their constitution and weak republic. The problem is that for all their lofty goals the politicians that get elected care more about protecting their interests, strengthening their home power bases, toppling their enemies, and seizing total power. The central government is weak, and the provincials are strong, federal, and where most democracy is actually happening. Struggles and the threat of violence force the few democrats to remain to call in a caudillo they hope to control and prevent what happened to early Colombia.
What happens next should be something akin to the Porfirio government…but different. The new strong center clamps down on the regional governments, destroying the budding democracy there and leaving legacies for future rebels. Instead, the center becomes all-powerful. Like the Porfirio, the government industrializes Mexico via foreign investment, but this is balanced between a confident Colombia, America, and Europe. The financial rise of Colombia will coincide with more pressure on Mexico to comply with Bogota. Democracy still exists in the center, but with supreme power in the hands of a caudillo, parties are played against one another for his gain. The military isn’t really a institution of any value beyond the elite guard, since Mexico is on good terms with her one large neighbor, and the Caudillo government doesn’t want any rivals from the barracks.
So, we have two underlying problems: Colombia and America’s rise and demand for Mexican markets, and a center that is out of touch with the people and lacks the might to crush a true revolution. Surrounding these issues are minor issues like a powerful and wealthy Clergy, drought from water redistribution to plantations, a growing middle class with demands of democracy and liberal rights, a growing labor class with social demands, peripheral minority growth, and a world order that encourages imperial occupation of minor powers.
Mexico became independent thanks in part to the ‘black robes’ of the Jesuits who came back shortly after a similar OTL expulsion, and used their ties with both the peasants and the landowners to coordinate revolution Mexico became independent with all the mainland, minus Cuba. She quietly left the Colombians to their struggles, and withdrew from affairs south of Panama. Mexico does not escape the civil unrest that sweeps Latin America post-revolution, this is how Nicaragua and Costa Rica get free and remain free of their two large neighbors. This is all already written in my Colombian Revolution post.
Pre-Rev, Mexico looks like this:
What I wish to explore is how Mexico comes to fall apart. I think the answer lies in this established revolutionary era and geopolitics. Mexico faces unrest, and the two groups with the most power at the time were the generals and the ‘nationalist’ church and their liberal allies. What I am proposing is the church wins this conflict, which is why the warlord peninsula states remain free. These liberals get their constitution and weak republic. The problem is that for all their lofty goals the politicians that get elected care more about protecting their interests, strengthening their home power bases, toppling their enemies, and seizing total power. The central government is weak, and the provincials are strong, federal, and where most democracy is actually happening. Struggles and the threat of violence force the few democrats to remain to call in a caudillo they hope to control and prevent what happened to early Colombia.
What happens next should be something akin to the Porfirio government…but different. The new strong center clamps down on the regional governments, destroying the budding democracy there and leaving legacies for future rebels. Instead, the center becomes all-powerful. Like the Porfirio, the government industrializes Mexico via foreign investment, but this is balanced between a confident Colombia, America, and Europe. The financial rise of Colombia will coincide with more pressure on Mexico to comply with Bogota. Democracy still exists in the center, but with supreme power in the hands of a caudillo, parties are played against one another for his gain. The military isn’t really a institution of any value beyond the elite guard, since Mexico is on good terms with her one large neighbor, and the Caudillo government doesn’t want any rivals from the barracks.
So, we have two underlying problems: Colombia and America’s rise and demand for Mexican markets, and a center that is out of touch with the people and lacks the might to crush a true revolution. Surrounding these issues are minor issues like a powerful and wealthy Clergy, drought from water redistribution to plantations, a growing middle class with demands of democracy and liberal rights, a growing labor class with social demands, peripheral minority growth, and a world order that encourages imperial occupation of minor powers.
With all the dominos lined up, a single trigger will see the entire regime descend into chaos. What I’m proposing first is to push the Mexican Revolution forward a few years, so that it starts before the war. This is first a struggle over the central government, with local identities reasserting themselves as power bases, secessionist fronts, or self-organized defense regions. But they are all loyal to the central government. What should change is the arrival of a Centralist-Socialist government in Mexico City, one that forges ties with the Italians and their new Socialized Church. With the world at war, but not wanting to provoke the Reds to enter against said nation, arms start flowing in against the new government. But when war, fails, the provincials settle into roles as protectorates of one international power or another.
So here is where we get to the states. Tejas, Durango, Tabsco, and Sonora all make sense from a rebel-turned-secessionist point of view – especially if the Socialist government is a Southern radical in the vein of Zapata. California, Deseret, and Guatemala all make sense as peripheries that secede. Considering the domination of the Henequen haciendas and the castes in the region, Yucatan seems like an ideal state that would remain loyal to the central government via revolution. However, the geographic separation forces the establishment of a independent government.
This leaves three governments currently ‘out of time.’ Oaxaca regionalism doesn’t make sense in the context of a southern-based central government, and the separatist movement there is more a modern phenomenon. The Rio Grande remained loyal to the central government in OTL civil war, the conflict there is from the 19th century. Then finally we have the curious case of Colorado. The region lacks an identity in OTL around this period, and certainly wouldn’t remain unoccupied. So, I will suggest something radical – it becomes part of Sonora, forming a new Republic of Grand Sonora. Sonora after all is the center of anti-socialist liberalism during the revolution.
So, something like this post-revolution:
So here is where we get to the states. Tejas, Durango, Tabsco, and Sonora all make sense from a rebel-turned-secessionist point of view – especially if the Socialist government is a Southern radical in the vein of Zapata. California, Deseret, and Guatemala all make sense as peripheries that secede. Considering the domination of the Henequen haciendas and the castes in the region, Yucatan seems like an ideal state that would remain loyal to the central government via revolution. However, the geographic separation forces the establishment of a independent government.
This leaves three governments currently ‘out of time.’ Oaxaca regionalism doesn’t make sense in the context of a southern-based central government, and the separatist movement there is more a modern phenomenon. The Rio Grande remained loyal to the central government in OTL civil war, the conflict there is from the 19th century. Then finally we have the curious case of Colorado. The region lacks an identity in OTL around this period, and certainly wouldn’t remain unoccupied. So, I will suggest something radical – it becomes part of Sonora, forming a new Republic of Grand Sonora. Sonora after all is the center of anti-socialist liberalism during the revolution.
So, something like this post-revolution:
Central America in the modern era is therefore one of the Cold War battle-lines. Socialists in Mexico and Yucatan, American and Colombian backed Democrats and Authoritarians in the North and South, German backed Authoritarians in Tabasco – and all sides fighting for market penetration. Coups, guerrillas, and ‘preservations of order’ in the minor states seem like the order of the day. However, I don’t think the region should just remain the same. Therefore, here might be where Oaxaca becomes free via rebels, but also perhaps Tabasco falls and reunites the twin socialist governments. After all, it would be hard for the Germans to retain their southern ally this deep into the Americas. If Colorado gets free, it would be now via foreign intervention. The downfall of Italy and other multi-polar combatants in this more modern détente brings some stability to a region once plagued by internal strife. Maybe Mexico will hold elections, but voting now for the first time cannot change almost a century of Socialism and anti-clericalism. The idea is to get something a little 'different' from a usual divided Mexico.
So something like this at the end:
When concerning the rest of Central America and the Caribbean, just remember how the US treated this region in OTL. Now you have two overbearing powers, one to the north, one to the south. This is why we had Haiti an ally/puppet of the Dominion for a long time, it reflected American interests down south. Today, maybe there is free trade blocs going on between the various Central American states and the two powers who are on friendly terms.
So something like this at the end:
When concerning the rest of Central America and the Caribbean, just remember how the US treated this region in OTL. Now you have two overbearing powers, one to the north, one to the south. This is why we had Haiti an ally/puppet of the Dominion for a long time, it reflected American interests down south. Today, maybe there is free trade blocs going on between the various Central American states and the two powers who are on friendly terms.
ST15RM
Banned
I like it. I think we should keep Colorado as part of Sonora. I'm not sure why an authoritarian Tabasco would reunite with the socialists, except an invasion.This is going to be part 1 of my ongoing final check of the world, filling in plot holes and trying to get a character of the world down. This is an exercise in trying to understand what happened here, and these are all suggestions so don’t assume they automatically need to be taken for granted.
Part 1 – Mexico and Central America
Current canon has a Big Mexico that existed the Colombian Revolution under her own volition, separate from the efforts down south. Then in the early 1900s, we currently have a handwave that has Mexico fall apart. So, this part will attempt to establish a backstory for the revolution.
Mexico became independent thanks in part to the ‘black robes’ of the Jesuits who came back shortly after a similar OTL expulsion, and used their ties with both the peasants and the landowners to coordinate revolution Mexico became independent with all the mainland, minus Cuba. She quietly left the Colombians to their struggles, and withdrew from affairs south of Panama. Mexico does not escape the civil unrest that sweeps Latin America post-revolution, this is how Nicaragua and Costa Rica get free and remain free of their two large neighbors. This is all already written in my Colombian Revolution post.
Pre-Rev, Mexico looks like this:
What I wish to explore is how Mexico comes to fall apart. I think the answer lies in this established revolutionary era and geopolitics. Mexico faces unrest, and the two groups with the most power at the time were the generals and the ‘nationalist’ church and their liberal allies. What I am proposing is the church wins this conflict, which is why the warlord peninsula states remain free. These liberals get their constitution and weak republic. The problem is that for all their lofty goals the politicians that get elected care more about protecting their interests, strengthening their home power bases, toppling their enemies, and seizing total power. The central government is weak, and the provincials are strong, federal, and where most democracy is actually happening. Struggles and the threat of violence force the few democrats to remain to call in a caudillo they hope to control and prevent what happened to early Colombia.
What happens next should be something akin to the Porfirio government…but different. The new strong center clamps down on the regional governments, destroying the budding democracy there and leaving legacies for future rebels. Instead, the center becomes all-powerful. Like the Porfirio, the government industrializes Mexico via foreign investment, but this is balanced between a confident Colombia, America, and Europe. The financial rise of Colombia will coincide with more pressure on Mexico to comply with Bogota. Democracy still exists in the center, but with supreme power in the hands of a caudillo, parties are played against one another for his gain. The military isn’t really a institution of any value beyond the elite guard, since Mexico is on good terms with her one large neighbor, and the Caudillo government doesn’t want any rivals from the barracks.
So, we have two underlying problems: Colombia and America’s rise and demand for Mexican markets, and a center that is out of touch with the people and lacks the might to crush a true revolution. Surrounding these issues are minor issues like a powerful and wealthy Clergy, drought from water redistribution to plantations, a growing middle class with demands of democracy and liberal rights, a growing labor class with social demands, peripheral minority growth, and a world order that encourages imperial occupation of minor powers.
With all the dominos lined up, a single trigger will see the entire regime descend into chaos. What I’m proposing first is to push the Mexican Revolution forward a few years, so that it starts before the war. This is first a struggle over the central government, with local identities reasserting themselves as power bases, secessionist fronts, or self-organized defense regions. But they are all loyal to the central government. What should change is the arrival of a Centralist-Socialist government in Mexico City, one that forges ties with the Italians and their new Socialized Church. With the world at war, but not wanting to provoke the Reds to enter against said nation, arms start flowing in against the new government. But when war, fails, the provincials settle into roles as protectorates of one international power or another.
So here is where we get to the states. Tejas, Durango, Tabsco, and Sonora all make sense from a rebel-turned-secessionist point of view – especially if the Socialist government is a Southern radical in the vein of Zapata. California, Deseret, and Guatemala all make sense as peripheries that secede. Considering the domination of the Henequen haciendas and the castes in the region, Yucatan seems like an ideal state that would remain loyal to the central government via revolution. However, the geographic separation forces the establishment of a independent government.
This leaves three governments currently ‘out of time.’ Oaxaca regionalism doesn’t make sense in the context of a southern-based central government, and the separatist movement there is more a modern phenomenon. The Rio Grande remained loyal to the central government in OTL civil war, the conflict there is from the 19th century. Then finally we have the curious case of Colorado. The region lacks an identity in OTL around this period, and certainly wouldn’t remain unoccupied. So, I will suggest something radical – it becomes part of Sonora, forming a new Republic of Grand Sonora. Sonora after all is the center of anti-socialist liberalism during the revolution.
So, something like this post-revolution:
Central America in the modern era is therefore one of the Cold War battle-lines. Socialists in Mexico and Yucatan, American and Colombian backed Democrats and Authoritarians in the North and South, German backed Authoritarians in Tabasco – and all sides fighting for market penetration. Coups, guerrillas, and ‘preservations of order’ in the minor states seem like the order of the day. However, I don’t think the region should just remain the same. Therefore, here might be where Oaxaca becomes free via rebels, but also perhaps Tabasco falls and reunites the twin socialist governments. After all, it would be hard for the Germans to retain their southern ally this deep into the Americas. If Colorado gets free, it would be now via foreign intervention. The downfall of Italy and other multi-polar combatants in this more modern détente brings some stability to a region once plagued by internal strife. Maybe Mexico will hold elections, but voting now for the first time cannot change almost a century of Socialism and anti-clericalism. The idea is to get something a little 'different' from a usual divided Mexico.
So something like this at the end:
When concerning the rest of Central America and the Caribbean, just remember how the US treated this region in OTL. Now you have two overbearing powers, one to the north, one to the south. This is why we had Haiti an ally/puppet of the Dominion for a long time, it reflected American interests down south. Today, maybe there is free trade blocs going on between the various Central American states and the two powers who are on friendly terms.
Reason Bolded. Mexico has a hard time recognizing all the separatists as legitimate, so when alliances falter, she pounces.
ST15RM
Banned
In this case, I find it hard why Oaxaca would still be independent. I think this should be what should be the final Mexico.
What's next?
Sounds good then. Next is South America, since the region has generally been ignored in our world posts. Expect it this weekend. Though I won't cover every region, I think the canon for china/japan/east asia in general is already well defined for example.
ST15RM
Banned
I'm gonna develop New Guinea in the meantime.
There are two main languages in The Republic of New Guinea: German, and Pisin-Sprak, a German pidgin language that is used as a lingua franca.
The economy of New Guinea is better than OTL PNG (Papua New Guinea), and there is far less crime in the cities. Because of the beaches and profitable Bird-of-Paradise trade, German settlers are a sizable minority, mostly concentrated in the coasts. Most of these settlers speak the New Guinea dialect of German (known as Neu-Guinea Deutsch), which is closely related to Low Saxon and Prussian dialects in Metropolitan Germany. The majority of these settlers come from wealthy, even noble families. Thus, the German-speaking coastal areas are extremely wealthy, while the inland native areas are poorer and far more rural. The Republic still has strong ties to the Reich, and is a very popular tourist destination, with flights from Berlin and Hamburg to Humboldtstadt (OTL Jayapura) and Herbertshöhe (OTL Kokopo) happening almost everyday in the wintertime.
@Oryxslayer any suggestions?
There are two main languages in The Republic of New Guinea: German, and Pisin-Sprak, a German pidgin language that is used as a lingua franca.
The economy of New Guinea is better than OTL PNG (Papua New Guinea), and there is far less crime in the cities. Because of the beaches and profitable Bird-of-Paradise trade, German settlers are a sizable minority, mostly concentrated in the coasts. Most of these settlers speak the New Guinea dialect of German (known as Neu-Guinea Deutsch), which is closely related to Low Saxon and Prussian dialects in Metropolitan Germany. The majority of these settlers come from wealthy, even noble families. Thus, the German-speaking coastal areas are extremely wealthy, while the inland native areas are poorer and far more rural. The Republic still has strong ties to the Reich, and is a very popular tourist destination, with flights from Berlin and Hamburg to Humboldtstadt (OTL Jayapura) and Herbertshöhe (OTL Kokopo) happening almost everyday in the wintertime.
@Oryxslayer any suggestions?
ST15RM
Banned
PART ONE OF THE FLAGS OF NEW GUINEA
Federal flag of the Republic of New Guinea
Flag of Humboldtstadt Province
Flag of Vogelkopfstadt (OTL Manokwari) Province
Flag of Timika Province
Flag of Papua Province
Flag of Heilige Louis (OTL Daru) Province
Flag of Fierlstadt (OTL Lae) Province
Federal flag of the Republic of New Guinea
Flag of Humboldtstadt Province
Flag of Vogelkopfstadt (OTL Manokwari) Province
Flag of Timika Province
Flag of Papua Province
Flag of Heilige Louis (OTL Daru) Province
Flag of Fierlstadt (OTL Lae) Province
Wouldn't the White population be located in the highlands because of the tropical diseases found along the coast, or was medicine advanced enough by that time to sustain a large white population?
ST15RM
Banned
Well actually I probably didn't think this through, the actual reason of the larger amount of settlement is more... complicated.
For inspiration, I turn into this German
An example of such hats.
So, there are so many Germans in New Guinea because the Germans turned it into their Java.
Well, that's quite unfortunate for the natives. What were the crops grown by German colonists on plantations?
ST15RM
Banned
Mostly cash crops that could grow well in the tropics such as tobacco, cotton, sugar cane, bananas, coffee, palm oil and rubber. In the west, the Germans also had spice plantations, since the Moluccas (also known as the spice islands) were literally right next door. There were also a few tea plantations in the highlands, but since China was nearby, they didn't find a whole lot of success in that.
And couple that with a growing tourism industry in the splendid beaches? Yeah, you’ve got yourself a money-making machine.
This is part 2 of my ongoing final check of the world, filling in plot holes and trying to get a character of the world down. This is an exercise in trying to understand what happened here, and these are all suggestions so don’t assume they automatically need to be taken for granted.
Part 2 – South America
Also, when concerning Papua, there are people on the island even today in OTL who are as close to outside the political system one can get. It wouldn't be hard for a white government to rule the coasts and towns, while some highlands tribes are basically left to their own devices.
Part 2 – South America
We have thankfully already built a good South America with a viable backstory; the problem is all that lore is scattered. When maps were made, only pieces of it got in, so South America was always unchanged, despite its cast of nations. So, this should act as more a summery, but there will be ‘additions’ here and there.
South America gets free in the Colombian Revolution, which can be read about in my massive post on said revolution here. Post-Revolution, there is a power vacuum that comes to be filled by four unequal nations. Brazil follows a path similar to OTL, with Portugal coming over (this time fleeing a full Spanish occupation of the mainland) and then producing the Kingdom of Brazil post-Napoleon. Chile remained loosely loyalist and had a cadet monarchy of the Spanish Bourbons ruling Santiago. La Plata is a caudillo state in those early years, leading to the loss of Uruguay. When she finally stabilized into a presidential dictatorship, legitimacy was a precious resource thanks to the unruly provinces. La Plata didn’t dare contest the Chilean settlers and claims to the Patagonian south, over fear of an unpopular war.
Finally, there is Colombia. Colombia went through her own period of caudillo conflict, but emerged with everyone accepting that the de Miranda government had a right to their democracy. But like OTL’s North American presidential state, these early years were focused inwards for Colombia. It would take a few generations to fully test the constitution and presidential power, and get politicians to realize that despite their expansive powers, a coup wouldn’t succeed. Colombia finally comes into her own in the late 19th/early 20th century, investing outwards.
So the world is like this:
South America gets free in the Colombian Revolution, which can be read about in my massive post on said revolution here. Post-Revolution, there is a power vacuum that comes to be filled by four unequal nations. Brazil follows a path similar to OTL, with Portugal coming over (this time fleeing a full Spanish occupation of the mainland) and then producing the Kingdom of Brazil post-Napoleon. Chile remained loosely loyalist and had a cadet monarchy of the Spanish Bourbons ruling Santiago. La Plata is a caudillo state in those early years, leading to the loss of Uruguay. When she finally stabilized into a presidential dictatorship, legitimacy was a precious resource thanks to the unruly provinces. La Plata didn’t dare contest the Chilean settlers and claims to the Patagonian south, over fear of an unpopular war.
Finally, there is Colombia. Colombia went through her own period of caudillo conflict, but emerged with everyone accepting that the de Miranda government had a right to their democracy. But like OTL’s North American presidential state, these early years were focused inwards for Colombia. It would take a few generations to fully test the constitution and presidential power, and get politicians to realize that despite their expansive powers, a coup wouldn’t succeed. Colombia finally comes into her own in the late 19th/early 20th century, investing outwards.
So the world is like this:
The map starts like this:
South America is actually interesting in those postwar years. Brazil accepts the Portuguese royal exiles and their colonies. The flood of royals though does add a confusing network of power to the state, as Brazil herself is transitioning towards a constitutional republic, but the King has absolute authority over his Portuguese puppets – but its officially still the Portuguese royals with final say in that domain.
Chile also is also experimenting with limited constitutionalism; however, this radically changes following the postwar market collapse. Colombian investments dry up, exports to Europe slow, and unemployment rises. Someone gets elected with the ingenious idea that Colombia needs to be punished for her actions while she is down. After a bit of military Keynesianism to help the economy pick up, Chile invades Colombia. After a couple of years, Chile realizes how wrong she was. Chile is losing, and the government sues for peace knowing that Colombia will have a hard time marching down the mountains for a full occupation. They hand over financial concessions and maybe secretly a Pacific island for a military base. But the military doesn’t like this, and as they head to their barracks the generals are already scheming with the king to save the country from democracy. Its not long until the coup restores full royal power and turns to UK/Ger for aid to rebuild. Colombia now has fully become a presidential powerhouse, and is ready to compete on the global scale.
La Plata suffers from the same market collapse as Chile, but goes a different direction. We talked about this a couple months ago how the state seems ripe for a socialist revolution, and her is where it should happen. With Chile at war, and Brazil preoccupied/in financial distress, the people finally have enough of the right-wing caudillos and their hard line of social programs. People are not starving – La Plata is a food exporting country. People have an extreme excess of supply with nobody to sell to. The rural and urban workers are pissed, and a new caudillo, a red one, comes to power in La Plata.
It ends something like this:
South America is actually interesting in those postwar years. Brazil accepts the Portuguese royal exiles and their colonies. The flood of royals though does add a confusing network of power to the state, as Brazil herself is transitioning towards a constitutional republic, but the King has absolute authority over his Portuguese puppets – but its officially still the Portuguese royals with final say in that domain.
Chile also is also experimenting with limited constitutionalism; however, this radically changes following the postwar market collapse. Colombian investments dry up, exports to Europe slow, and unemployment rises. Someone gets elected with the ingenious idea that Colombia needs to be punished for her actions while she is down. After a bit of military Keynesianism to help the economy pick up, Chile invades Colombia. After a couple of years, Chile realizes how wrong she was. Chile is losing, and the government sues for peace knowing that Colombia will have a hard time marching down the mountains for a full occupation. They hand over financial concessions and maybe secretly a Pacific island for a military base. But the military doesn’t like this, and as they head to their barracks the generals are already scheming with the king to save the country from democracy. Its not long until the coup restores full royal power and turns to UK/Ger for aid to rebuild. Colombia now has fully become a presidential powerhouse, and is ready to compete on the global scale.
La Plata suffers from the same market collapse as Chile, but goes a different direction. We talked about this a couple months ago how the state seems ripe for a socialist revolution, and her is where it should happen. With Chile at war, and Brazil preoccupied/in financial distress, the people finally have enough of the right-wing caudillos and their hard line of social programs. People are not starving – La Plata is a food exporting country. People have an extreme excess of supply with nobody to sell to. The rural and urban workers are pissed, and a new caudillo, a red one, comes to power in La Plata.
It ends something like this:
The 20th century should therefore be seen as a period of South American power. Brazil, guided by the Portuguese, turns to anyone who promises to liberate Portugal. Colombia is now a world power, and is building Alliances against the UK/America – her regional rival. Chile cannot exact her revenge on Colombia, but La Plata is nearby. Chile and Brazil vs La Plata would occur almost naturally in the 60s/70s, but the battle isn’t as one sided as it seems. Colombia, the regional superpower, has every reason to aid the socialists – sometimes covertly, sometimes not. This is in addition to the bloc aid from Italy, versus the opposing aid from Germany and the UK/America. In La Plata’s mind, this is a war of national defense, so this war would e less a slaughter and more a guerrilla grind. Brazil might come to occupy Buenos Ares, but the countryside and the mountains are still held by armed rebels. As attrition builds up, the powers end up declaring victory, place a puppet in the capital, and head home. But that puppet falls in a few years, and La Plata endures.
The Platan War looks like this:
The 21st century brings new hope to the continent. Chile, facing disillusionment over the failed war, falls to popular protests that place the country in situation reminiscent of modern-day Spain. Brazils economy is growing, and is projected to soon rival Colombia - even as she frees what puppets hadn’t already revolted thanks to the Portuguese returning home. Colombia is one of the Cold War ‘winners’ and as such has the power to restore order across the globe. La Plata meanwhile should develop similar to OTL Vietnam – the socialist government isn’t going anywhere, but the economic system might. It has enough legitimacy to last the transition to Left-Authoritarian from Communist.
Modern day looks like this:
The Platan War looks like this:
The 21st century brings new hope to the continent. Chile, facing disillusionment over the failed war, falls to popular protests that place the country in situation reminiscent of modern-day Spain. Brazils economy is growing, and is projected to soon rival Colombia - even as she frees what puppets hadn’t already revolted thanks to the Portuguese returning home. Colombia is one of the Cold War ‘winners’ and as such has the power to restore order across the globe. La Plata meanwhile should develop similar to OTL Vietnam – the socialist government isn’t going anywhere, but the economic system might. It has enough legitimacy to last the transition to Left-Authoritarian from Communist.
Modern day looks like this:
Also, when concerning Papua, there are people on the island even today in OTL who are as close to outside the political system one can get. It wouldn't be hard for a white government to rule the coasts and towns, while some highlands tribes are basically left to their own devices.
ST15RM
Banned
That is for sure.
Perhaps a full understanding of my idea of N.G. should help you:
*Unofficial Part 3* - German New Guinea
So right now we have a semblance what happens to German New Guinea at its height. Here's how it got to that point:
The main difference between TTL and OTL NG isn't just the amount of land the Germans received, it's also the amount of money the Government chose to put into the colony.
So at first the Bismarck Archipelago is directly administered from Berlin and the Mainland (OTL called Kaiser-Wilhelmsland, but this can change ITTL) is made a protectorate simply due to its relative lack of settlement.
Thus:
IOTL a number of generally right-wing and pro-imperialist organizations pushed for Bismarck (who IMO should still be the first Chancellor of the Empire ITTL) to invest more money into the colony to create a great trade and plantation colony, but he denies their offer or just ignores them. ITTL he gives in and invests more money, and after half a century means that NG is already radically different than OTL.
The entire colony is now directly administered. Plantations are set up in the foothills of the highlands as well as the fertile river valleys. The coasts have built up into large trading centers and luxury resorts.
The main difference between TTL and OTL NG isn't just the amount of land the Germans received, it's also the amount of money the Government chose to put into the colony.
So at first the Bismarck Archipelago is directly administered from Berlin and the Mainland (OTL called Kaiser-Wilhelmsland, but this can change ITTL) is made a protectorate simply due to its relative lack of settlement.
Thus:
IOTL a number of generally right-wing and pro-imperialist organizations pushed for Bismarck (who IMO should still be the first Chancellor of the Empire ITTL) to invest more money into the colony to create a great trade and plantation colony, but he denies their offer or just ignores them. ITTL he gives in and invests more money, and after half a century means that NG is already radically different than OTL.
The entire colony is now directly administered. Plantations are set up in the foothills of the highlands as well as the fertile river valleys. The coasts have built up into large trading centers and luxury resorts.
The Germans hold onto the colony until the 1930s, when a native revolt happens in the plantations and highlands. At its maximum in '31 it controlled this area:
But it was quickly quashed after that. The governors decided to hold a referendum to see if the population of NG wanted independence in 1943, and a slim majority voted 'Yes'. However, there was a catch, the demands of the white settlers and plantation owners created the 'segregierten regierung' (segregated government) AKA New Guinea's Apartheid. This government was a totalitarian, segregated one-party state until 1975, with the election of Michael Somare and a new constitution allowing for equal rights, multiple parties and democracy.
But it was quickly quashed after that. The governors decided to hold a referendum to see if the population of NG wanted independence in 1943, and a slim majority voted 'Yes'. However, there was a catch, the demands of the white settlers and plantation owners created the 'segregierten regierung' (segregated government) AKA New Guinea's Apartheid. This government was a totalitarian, segregated one-party state until 1975, with the election of Michael Somare and a new constitution allowing for equal rights, multiple parties and democracy.
Sure? I'll have a read of the background information (they're German right?) and i'll make a list.