The Yankee Dominion: A Map and World Building Project

Discussion in 'Alternate History Maps and Graphics' started by Nazi Space Spy, May 12, 2018.

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  1. Oryxslayer Electoral Calculator

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    Compared to the 10mil of LA county on its own from OTL...is certainly smaller. BTW, I'm not gone either, I just had term papers and finals that will end tomorrow. So, is there anything particular the regulars here would like for me to work on? I'm thinking Ontario locals before more timeline work, but my plate is open so...
     
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  2. Gabingston Well-Known Member

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    What is California's approximate GDP Per Capita in OTL's U.S. Dollars?
     
  3. ST15RM Ich bin ein AH.commer!

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    I'd say between Guatemala and OTL Mexico's GDP, so maybe 80-90 billion USD. Not too bad.
     
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  4. Gabingston Well-Known Member

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    GDP Per Capita?
     
  5. ST15RM Ich bin ein AH.commer!

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    Well, I'm gonna think about population:
    NorCal is the same as OTL which is about 15 mil.
    SoCal has about 8 Mil (not including Baja)
    Baja has 4 Mil
    Let's say the LV metro (2 Mil) is halved, so Nevada about 2 mil
    So all together about 29 Million people live in the republic.

    So let's say the GDP per capita is about 3,000 OTL USD.
     
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  6. Gabingston Well-Known Member

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    That means that TTL California is poorer than OTL Guatemala or Bolivia. I'd assume that San Francisco looks less like this:
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    And more like this
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    How'd California end up so dang poor ITTL? I mean, I would've expected it to be like the Southern Cone in terms of GDP Per Capita (around 15,000 USD), even a bit wealthier than that (20-25,000).
     
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  7. ST15RM Ich bin ein AH.commer!

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    Well I mean California could probably be. southern come gdp. Again this can change. @Oryxslayer help?
     
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  8. Oryxslayer Electoral Calculator

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    Cali should probably have a GDP per capita somewhere in line with OTL South and Central American nations of a similar pop , maybe a little higher because well...that basically what Cali is TTL. For reference Mexico (much more pop) is 8.9K USD, Colombia 6.3K, Peru 6.5K, Chile 15.3, Argentina 14.4, Guatemala 4.4, and Brazil as the 'behemoth' has 9.8K. So yeah 12.5k-17.5K should probably be the band. Venezuela (Socialist Authoritarianism notwithstanding) which is probably a decent parallel (Oil, Agriculture) has 15K. One should remember that Cali has the Valley which is some of the worlds most fertile land. Its a resource that probably boosts the GDP but not state revenue and worker skills, since MNC's like OTL United Fruit are going to be all over those fields.

    On the other hand, I'm from the Bay Area so I have my biases.
     
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  9. ST15RM Ich bin ein AH.commer!

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    I’m assuming you mean OTLs Silicon Valley. I’m thinking that it would remain pastoral and suburban, perhaps the “valley of the hearts delight” nickname sticks. Probably the closest thing TTL to Silicon Valley might be the Vancouver-Seattle Metro. In regards to GDP i think you’re probably right, since I don’t think Cali would be a struggling nation.
     
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  10. Zyxoriv Jack of all trades, master of none.

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    A timeline might be possible if I like the idea I'm using it for enough.
     
  11. Gabingston Well-Known Member

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    Well, Venezuela had 15K.
     
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  12. Oryxslayer Electoral Calculator

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    No I meant the cemtral valley. I agree in regard to the Silicon Valley though.
     
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  13. ST15RM Ich bin ein AH.commer!

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    So, moving on to Texas (I'm not sure if we should go with Texas or Tejas at least for the Anglicized name).
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    1: Houston Province - Houston
    2: Pineland Province - Largavista (OTL Longview)
    3: Santa Anna Province - Santa Anna (OTL Dallas)
    4: Cerros Occidentales Province - Austin
    5: Espíritu Santo Province - Cuerpo Christo (OTL Corpus Christi)
    6: Rio Grande Province - Fuerte Tejas (OTL Brownsville)
    7: San Antonio Province - San Antonio
    8: Pecos Province - Del Rio
    9: El Paso Province - El Paso
    10: Albuquerque Province - Albuquerque
    11: Cerros Orientales Territory - San angelo
    12: Santa fe Territory - Santa Fe
     
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  14. Gabingston Well-Known Member

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    I can figure that East Texas was heavily settled by Anglos.
     
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    Any ideas on the demographics of Texas?
     
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  16. ST15RM Ich bin ein AH.commer!

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    That’s what I’m thinking. I’m gonna work out that later.
     
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    @Oryxslayer maybe you can help with this but here’s my idea:

    Eastern: lot of Cajuns and Anglos along the Gulf coast as well as urban areas. Most liberal part.
    Hill country: Rural. Anglo-Hispanic settlers throughout. Kinda Conservative(except for Austin)
    Southern: Mostly hispanics. Not a whole lotta immigration but there is some. Swing region.
    Trans-Pecos: Similar, although El Paso and Albuquerque are pretty liberal.
    Territories: Sparse, almost entirely hispanic, and conservative.
     
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    It's strange seeing Anglo Texans described as "Liberal" and Hispanics described as "Conservative", when in OTL it is the other way around (although Texas Hispanics vote about 40% Republican, which combined with low Hispanic turnout is why Texas is still a red state, although Beto came close to winning because Ted Cruz is pretty unpopular even in his home state. Greg Abbott won 42 percent of the Hispanic vote despite running against Lupe Valdez, a Hispanic candidate).
     
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    It's more the "Big cities are more liberal and rural areas are more conservative" rule. Keep in mind, I'm thinking about doing a Brazil analogue, with a left stronghold in power for years, until a massive corruption scandal breaks and the people rally against the establishment. Rampant and brutal police crackdowns are already the norm. And the far-right candidate Alex Jones is swept into power, despite his extreme views on homosexuality, mass shootings, et cetera plus his constant approval of the military and police.
     
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    I don't see Texas becoming Brazil, considering that there is a large Anglo population, and Anglo culture has tended to produce more stability and less corruption than Iberian cultures (Culture ≠ Race). If anything, it'd be a right-wing dominated country, considering that these are Southerners we're talking about, plus that the Hispanic population would be staunchly Catholic and conservative. It'd be more like Francoist Spain than Brazil. Speaking of that, how could Alex Jones' views on homosexuality be considered "extreme" in a staunchly Catholic and Evangelical country?
     
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