I never said Germany wouldn't get bogged down in North Africa like IOTL. Same thing might go for Greece.Not dragging Germany into Greece or North Africa will have a major effect on W.W. II if it still goes the same way.
I never said Germany wouldn't get bogged down in North Africa like IOTL. Same thing might go for Greece.Not dragging Germany into Greece or North Africa will have a major effect on W.W. II if it still goes the same way.
There's around 190,000 Italians under arms in the Royal Italian Army - 155,000 in Ethiopia, 20,000 in Libya, 10,000 in Somalia and 5,000 in Eritrea by 1938.
This is excluding Albania which the Italians invade in 1939, shortly before World War 2 begins. Any other questions?Thank you, that helps put things in perspective.
Thank you, that helps put things in perspective.
There's around 190,000 Italians under arms in the Royal Italian Army - 155,000 in Ethiopia, 20,000 in Libya, 10,000 in Somalia and 5,000 in Eritrea by 1938.
I'm guessing here but the reserves number around 100,000 soldiers with a large amount of men and material going towards putting down the Ethiopian resistance, although much of these troops are colonial but the Italian Royal Army in Italy is growing as Italian settlers in Eritrea, Somalia and Libya being sent to Italy. Please correct me if anything seems wrong.That leaves none in Italy itself, what are the reserves.
It is quite overstretched, isn't it? It's not the best thing for their future (an understatement) and I'd say a sizeable amount of their budget is going towards either attempting to develop Ethiopia or supporting the Italian presence in Ethiopia.Really sounds like the Italian army is overstretched far more than o.t.l. Not a good thing for their future, how much money is going to support them that would go o.t.l. navy and airforce instead.
Doubt it, they had issues OTL. Here, with a another quagmire showing they aren't invincible and sucking down troops and such?Will they have enough troops free to invade greece later?
Depends, who knows? Mussolini might make the same mistake of invading Greece even with his troops stretched thin across the supposed Italian Empire or he might just not get involved in World War 2.Doubt it, they had issues OTL. Here, with a another quagmire showing they aren't invincible and sucking down troops and such?
Heck, for all we know, he's doing one of those big triumphant parades the fascists love, and a veteran of Ethiopa, sick at how many buddies died for "Il Duce", puts a slug in his chest.Depends, who knows? Mussolini might make the same mistake of invading Greece even with his troops stretched thin across the supposed Italian Empire or he might just not get involved in World War 2.
Haha, who knows? Quite a few soldiers of the Italian occupational forces are tired of attempting pacification in Ethiopia and many colonial soldiers (mostly Eritrean) have deserted to the Ethiopian Patriots whilst a fairly large number of Italian settlers are pissed at the ineptitude of the colonial administration. Despite establishing better infrastructure and industries in the population centers of Ethiopia, Nasi's administration isn't very successful at their pacification of Ethiopia and its only starting to show results in the Shewan province where relentless Italian pummeling and propaganda of the Patriots has taken its toll but there's still many Shewan Patriots who continue the fight. As for a veteran of Ethiopia assassinating Mussolini . . . anything could happen!Heck, for all we know, he's doing one of those big triumphant parades the fascists love, and a veteran of Ethiopa, sick at how many buddies died for "Il Duce", puts a slug in his chest.
I mean....
They might be successful, considering he's in no position to invade Greece in the first place.I wonder... what if Mussolini did try invading Greece and the weakened state of his army led to the Greeks pushing him out of Albania completely?
Have you ever heard of Zerai Deres? He was an Eritrean that was brought to Italy to translate for Amharic nobles that had been deported to Italy in the aftermath of OTL's Yekatit 12 massacre and when he was found praying in front of the stolen Monument to the Lion of Judah, he knelt and prayed - Italian police attempted to stop him but he pulled out a sword and wounded several officers before being stopped by gunfire. He was then sent to a mental ward by the Italian government and stayed there until he died, in 1945 as he was portrayed as a hero in Ethiopian and Eritrean folklore alike - I have plans for him in my ATL.Heck, for all we know, he's doing one of those big triumphant parades the fascists love, and a veteran of Ethiopa, sick at how many buddies died for "Il Duce", puts a slug in his chest.
I mean....
There are quite a few pro-Ethiopia and/or pan-Africanist Africans throughout the European colonial empires as a result of the successfulness of the Ethiopian Patriots, some having been inspired.I mean, OTL Japan's conquests is what allowed natives to start seeing Europeans as beatable resulting in the anti-colonial movements in Asia and Africa, I'm guessing this time round the Ethiopian Resistance is going to have a much more tangible result with it being so close to home and so accessible.
Also wouldn't the battle hardened Italian forces in Ethiopia be withdrawn/redeployed to the North once the war starts? That might increase the Italian threat compared to OTL...
https://abyssiniancrisis.wordpress.com/2015/11/20/abyssinian-armored-field-force/Out of curiosity: what is the OTL source of the picture with African soldiers posing with CV 33 tankettes?
That's where you found it alright, but that's still an alternate history site. What I'm asking is where and when in OTL the picture was taken.