The Lucky Country: Protect and Survive in Australia
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Riain
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Well with a few million people killed in the nuclear strikes you would have less people hanging shit on you, you know, about the two heads and all.
PimpLenin
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The Exhibition Hall was only used for the opening of the first parliament; after that they used the Victorian Parliament House. While the Federal Parliament used the Victorian Parliament House, the Victorian Parliament used the Exhibition Hall.
Tasmania has not even heard news about the war yet, considering they didn’t get the telegraph until 1991.
Kidding…kidding…I have nothing against Tasmania. Never got to visit, so I can’t judge.
Tassie is just fine. No nukes or fallout to worry about.
I've long had a soft spot for Tas and now I know it"s because of a latent paranoia and desire to survive the apocalypse.
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PimpLenin
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The following is an excerpt from A Brief History of the Third World War (2014) produced by the Australian War Memorial in cooperation with the Royal Military College, Jervis Bay
The Battle of Cabramatta
Many of the civilians in Cabramatta were awakened by the sound of the two low-flying Chinook helicopters but did not bother to get out of bed to look. Things were different at Cabramatta High School. As the first Chinook landed on the school grounds, it immediately came under fire. SAS troops still managed to disembark from the Chinook and fought their way inside. The second Chinook landed at the back of the school. Those troops did not face any immediate resistance. Within the hour, the school was secured.
Elements of the 4th Brigade crossed Cabramatta Road from the Cabramatta Bowling Club and met heavier resistance than anticipated. They were stopped briefly at Boundry Lane, and again at Cumberland Street. The finally broke through and pushed towards Cabramatta High School after reinforcements from the 10/27 Royal South Australian Regiment moved up Broomfield Street.
Members of the 3rd Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment at Warwick Farm, 28 February 1984
South of Cabramatta Creek, the 3rd Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment and the 10/27 Battalion of the Royal South Australian Regiment met less resistance as they crossed the Hume Highway. Dozens of gang members threw down their arms and surrendered at the sight of hundreds of Diggers entering the suburb, supported by Leopard tanks. The heaviest resistance came at the Cabramatta Rugby Leagues Club, where the 10/27 was held up. The position finally fell after two Leopard tanks arrived on the scene, allowing the 10/27 to move up Bloomfield Street to assist the 4th Brigade.
The entire operation lasted a little over three hours. Of the estimated 350 gang members engaged, 57 were killed and 154 were wounded. The remaining 139 were taken prisoner. Australian military casualties numbered 35 killed and 95 wounded. The Battle of Cabramatta entered Digger lore forever as part of the history of World War III.
Breakdown of Casualties:
RAAF Wagga
Forest Hill, NSW
Prime Minister Bob Hawke was taking a walk around RAAF Wagga, getting some much needed fresh air, when he was approached by General Peter Gration, Chief of the General Staff.
“Mind if I walk with you, Prime Minister?”
“Of course, General. I read the initial report about the Cabramatta mission from this morning. I’m glad it is over and successful. To be honest, however, the casualties were higher than I expected.”
General Gration nodded.
“The gangs were better armed and disciplined than expected. Perhaps they just fought hard because they had nothing to lose.”
“Either way, General, it is over now. General O’Donnell believes he will have Sydney under control within a couple of days.”
Both men walked silently for a few moments, looking at some of the buildings that had been built during World War II.
“Prime Minister, General O’Donnell informed me of something that occurred at Holsworthy following the attack on the bikie compound.”
Bob Hawke stopped walking and looked at General Gration with a face of great concern.
“What happened?”
“Oh, nothing bad Prime Minister. Just unexpected. At first, General O’Donnell thought it would be a problem, but instead turned it into an asset. The day after the operation against the Gypsy Jokers, a group of about 100 civilians, armed with an assortment of rifles, march to Holsworthy and offered their services to General O’Donnell.”
“A civilian militia?”
General Gration shrugged his shoulders.
“Yes, but not just any civilians. Every one of them are prior service. Six of them were in the Indonesian mess back in the 60’s. Two dozen more, including their captain, were in Vietnam. The rest were part of the CMF.”
“So, how did O’Donnell make them an asset?”
“He put them to work, Prime Minister. They have been unloading and delivering supplies from Bankston Airport and Richmond to refugee camps all over the area. A handful have been doing security work. They are disciplined, eager to serve, and have done a good job.”
Bob Hawke cocked his head to one side and looked at General Gration.
“What are you proposing, General?”
“Prime Minister, we are soon going to have hundreds of thousands, perhaps over a million, of people sitting in camps around Australia with little to do. These people are homeless and feel powerless. Morale will be very low, and that can lead to unrest. I propose that we organise and put these people to work. They will be earning their keep and contribute. They will feel less like a refugee and more like a productive citizen again.”
Prime Minister Hawke, walking with his head down and hands in his pockets, nodded in agreement.
“I understand what you are saying, General. How do you plan to organise something like this?”
“Well, right now it is just an idea. I would think we would need to find out everyone’s skills first. Prior military, doctors, teachers, carpenters, construction workers, and such. Then we will have to find jobs for them. For example, doctors can help out in the hospitals and build small medical clinics, or teachers can being organizing classes at the camps to teach the children. Tradesmen can teach the teenagers skills. Once reconstruction begins, we can use these people. They will play a direct part in rebuilding their community.”
The Prime Minister resumed his stroll.
“What incentive will people have to do all of this work, besides a warm, fuzzy feeling?”
Once again, General Gration shrugged his shoulders.
“As first, we offer them long-term security, shelter, food, water, and medical care. Once the monetary problems are worked out, we can look into paying them. Another long-term incentive would be new housing at no cost. For example, a man works for two or three years rebuilding roads, he gets one of the newly built houses in a reconstructed area. As I said though, the exact details will have to be worked out.”
The Prime Minister stopped walking, smiled, and shook General Gration’s hand.
“I think it is a bloody brilliant idea. Get a team working on it. Get me the details. It it’s fair dinkum, I’ll sign off on it.”
The Battle of Cabramatta
Many of the civilians in Cabramatta were awakened by the sound of the two low-flying Chinook helicopters but did not bother to get out of bed to look. Things were different at Cabramatta High School. As the first Chinook landed on the school grounds, it immediately came under fire. SAS troops still managed to disembark from the Chinook and fought their way inside. The second Chinook landed at the back of the school. Those troops did not face any immediate resistance. Within the hour, the school was secured.
Elements of the 4th Brigade crossed Cabramatta Road from the Cabramatta Bowling Club and met heavier resistance than anticipated. They were stopped briefly at Boundry Lane, and again at Cumberland Street. The finally broke through and pushed towards Cabramatta High School after reinforcements from the 10/27 Royal South Australian Regiment moved up Broomfield Street.
Members of the 3rd Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment at Warwick Farm, 28 February 1984
South of Cabramatta Creek, the 3rd Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment and the 10/27 Battalion of the Royal South Australian Regiment met less resistance as they crossed the Hume Highway. Dozens of gang members threw down their arms and surrendered at the sight of hundreds of Diggers entering the suburb, supported by Leopard tanks. The heaviest resistance came at the Cabramatta Rugby Leagues Club, where the 10/27 was held up. The position finally fell after two Leopard tanks arrived on the scene, allowing the 10/27 to move up Bloomfield Street to assist the 4th Brigade.
The entire operation lasted a little over three hours. Of the estimated 350 gang members engaged, 57 were killed and 154 were wounded. The remaining 139 were taken prisoner. Australian military casualties numbered 35 killed and 95 wounded. The Battle of Cabramatta entered Digger lore forever as part of the history of World War III.
Breakdown of Casualties:
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29 February 1984 - 2:20 pmRAAF Wagga
Forest Hill, NSW
Prime Minister Bob Hawke was taking a walk around RAAF Wagga, getting some much needed fresh air, when he was approached by General Peter Gration, Chief of the General Staff.
“Mind if I walk with you, Prime Minister?”
“Of course, General. I read the initial report about the Cabramatta mission from this morning. I’m glad it is over and successful. To be honest, however, the casualties were higher than I expected.”
General Gration nodded.
“The gangs were better armed and disciplined than expected. Perhaps they just fought hard because they had nothing to lose.”
“Either way, General, it is over now. General O’Donnell believes he will have Sydney under control within a couple of days.”
Both men walked silently for a few moments, looking at some of the buildings that had been built during World War II.
“Prime Minister, General O’Donnell informed me of something that occurred at Holsworthy following the attack on the bikie compound.”
Bob Hawke stopped walking and looked at General Gration with a face of great concern.
“What happened?”
“Oh, nothing bad Prime Minister. Just unexpected. At first, General O’Donnell thought it would be a problem, but instead turned it into an asset. The day after the operation against the Gypsy Jokers, a group of about 100 civilians, armed with an assortment of rifles, march to Holsworthy and offered their services to General O’Donnell.”
“A civilian militia?”
General Gration shrugged his shoulders.
“Yes, but not just any civilians. Every one of them are prior service. Six of them were in the Indonesian mess back in the 60’s. Two dozen more, including their captain, were in Vietnam. The rest were part of the CMF.”
“So, how did O’Donnell make them an asset?”
“He put them to work, Prime Minister. They have been unloading and delivering supplies from Bankston Airport and Richmond to refugee camps all over the area. A handful have been doing security work. They are disciplined, eager to serve, and have done a good job.”
Bob Hawke cocked his head to one side and looked at General Gration.
“What are you proposing, General?”
“Prime Minister, we are soon going to have hundreds of thousands, perhaps over a million, of people sitting in camps around Australia with little to do. These people are homeless and feel powerless. Morale will be very low, and that can lead to unrest. I propose that we organise and put these people to work. They will be earning their keep and contribute. They will feel less like a refugee and more like a productive citizen again.”
Prime Minister Hawke, walking with his head down and hands in his pockets, nodded in agreement.
“I understand what you are saying, General. How do you plan to organise something like this?”
“Well, right now it is just an idea. I would think we would need to find out everyone’s skills first. Prior military, doctors, teachers, carpenters, construction workers, and such. Then we will have to find jobs for them. For example, doctors can help out in the hospitals and build small medical clinics, or teachers can being organizing classes at the camps to teach the children. Tradesmen can teach the teenagers skills. Once reconstruction begins, we can use these people. They will play a direct part in rebuilding their community.”
The Prime Minister resumed his stroll.
“What incentive will people have to do all of this work, besides a warm, fuzzy feeling?”
Once again, General Gration shrugged his shoulders.
“As first, we offer them long-term security, shelter, food, water, and medical care. Once the monetary problems are worked out, we can look into paying them. Another long-term incentive would be new housing at no cost. For example, a man works for two or three years rebuilding roads, he gets one of the newly built houses in a reconstructed area. As I said though, the exact details will have to be worked out.”
The Prime Minister stopped walking, smiled, and shook General Gration’s hand.
“I think it is a bloody brilliant idea. Get a team working on it. Get me the details. It it’s fair dinkum, I’ll sign off on it.”
That's actually a major problem in any country which does not have to fight daily with basic necessities. Even in 1984, with collapse of consumer society and the world market there will be a lot of people without jobs. They will have to have jobs, this is the era before Internet porn, taking selfies and playing FPS games take the aggression off people who have nothing to do. In 1980's it's possible for governments to organize some kind of work program, but I wonder if it would be possible for any Western government to do nowadays. It would violate principles of the Market which should not be violated. Trickle down effect from direct financial support to banks etc. might not have the desired effect. Of course there's selfies, porn and FPS games nowadays...
Dental hygiene, electricity, etc. etc.
We have 95% hydro power, or something like that.
I'd expect some of our major energy users would stop work since their markets would evaporate.
Everyone not involved in agriculture or public service industries could be conscripted to be sent to the mainland to help with the reconstruction efforts.
Dental hygiene? Well, we even collect the kelp that is an ingredient in toothpaste, though apparently that's made in Europe, so somewhat of a problem there.
PimpLenin
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1 March 1984 - 10:20 am
Vincentia, NSW
This is Mike Carlton broadcasting live from the sea-side community of Vincentia, New South Wales. As you can hear, several hundred people have gathered along this residential street, Elizabeth Drive, waiting to catch a glimpse of Prime Minister Bob Hawke as he passes through on his way to HMAS Creswell. They are all excited and in high spirits. Many are waving flags, and I see one woman with two small children holding a banner that says “Welcome Prime Minister.” I talked with some of the people here before this broadcast, and all expressed a desire to show Mr. Hawke their support in these trying times.
We know that the Prime Minister arrived at HMAS Albatross, a naval air station in the near-by town of Nowra about three quarters of an hour ago. We expect him to pass through at any moment. Mr. Hawke will be given a tour of HMAS Creswell, followed by an address to members of the Royal Australian Navy. We will broadcast his speech live….oh, wait. I hear sirens and the cheering is getting louder. Yes! Here comes the Prime Minister’s motorcade! Young children are jumping up and down waving, and their parents are waiving their flags. The Prime Minister’s car is now passing directly in front of me. I can see Mr. Hawke smiling and waiving to the crowd. Okay…he has continued further on down the street. People are still cheering. Let me see if I can get a comment from someone. Sir! Sir! I am Mike Carlton of the ABC. What made you want to come out here today to see the Prime Minister?
“I brought my kids with me to see history so they can say one day 'I was there.' I believe that Mr. Hawke has made the tough choices that has kept this country together after the attacks. I know times will be tough and I wanted the Prime Minister to know that we support him.”
Thank you sir. We will be broadcasting the Prime Minister’s speech live from HMAS Creswell starting at 12:45 pm. This is Mike Carlton, returning you to our studios in Shepparton.
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HMAS Creswell and Jervis Bay
HMAS Creswell and Jervis Bay
1 March 1984 - 12:45 pm
HMAS Creswell
Jervis Bay, Jervis Bay Territory
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is Mike Carlton reporting live from HMAS Creswell in Jervis Bay. We are waiting for Prime Minister Bob Hawke to appear and address the crews of the HMAS Canberra, Sydney, Perth, Hobart, and their support vessels HMAS Success and Supply. These are the crews and ships that will be setting sail this evening to various ports around the world in an effort to determine the world-wide effects of the nuclear attacks. The men are assembled on the parade ground of the base, known as the “quarterdeck.” Their families are in attendance as well. It is a beautiful sunny day here, with a brisk breeze blowing in from Jervis Bay. Off in the bay, there are a large number of warships in port. HMAS Creswell has become the main base on the east coast for the navy.
TEN-SHUN!
The Deputy Chief of the Naval Staff, Rear-Admiral Ian Richard, is about to speak.
“At ease. Officers, sailors, family, ladies and gentlemen. It is my privilege to introduce to you the Prime Minister of Australia, the Honourable Bob Hawke.”
APPLAUSE
Cheers and applause erupt as the Royal Australian Navy Band strikes up Waltzing Matilda
Ladies and gentlemen, you have just heard a speech by the Prime Minister, Bob Hawke. As you hear the band and the cheers from the crowd, the Prime Minister is going around, greeting dignitaries and officers. Now, he is talking to some of the crewmen and their families. This will conclude our broadcast from HMAS Creswell. We will now return to the studio in Shepparton.
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1 March 1984 - 7:00 pm
This is the news from the ABC.
Today, military forces entered the Sydney suburbs of Kingsgrove, Strathfield, and Greenacre as part of the effort to curb the violence that has gripped the area since the nuclear attacks. Lieutenant General Lawrence O’Donnell stated that he hopes to have a civilian government return to New South Wales as soon as possible.
Prime Minister Bob Hawke addressed the crews of six Royal Australian Navy vessels that are departing this evening from Jervis Bay to various locations around the world. This mission is to assess the world situation following the nuclear attacks of 22 February, and to make official contact with foreign governments; in particular the United Sates and the United Kingdom.
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Well, according to one of the updates, Wellington and Auckland were hit, and the New Zealand government is now at Christchurch.
Kuala Lumpur, Jakarta, and Sarabaya were also hit, accoring to a transmission from a RAAF base in Malaysia (here's the post: https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=9327467&postcount=269).
I'm also betting Singapore and Manila got hit, too.
Kuala Lumpur, Jakarta, and Sarabaya were also hit, accoring to a transmission from a RAAF base in Malaysia (here's the post: https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=9327467&postcount=269).
I'm also betting Singapore and Manila got hit, too.
As for the Philippines, what about the US military installations of Clark Air Base (USAF) and Subic Bay (USN)? As for Manila, it's not just that it's the Filipino national capital, but there's Ninoy Aquino International Airport. One of its runways is nearly 11,200 feet (~3414 m) long - loaded B-52s and KC-135s might use that airport as a dispersal base and an alternate landing site if Clark Air Base gets destroyed.
Besides, as for one of the Indonesian cities, it's Surabaya, rather than Sarabaya (The Indonesian Navy has a major base there).
It sounds like RAAF Butterworth (Penang, Malaysia) is still standing.
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PimpLenin
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The following is a letter delivered to Prime Minister Bob Hawke on 2 March 1984.
COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA
2 March 1984
Dear Prime Minister:
In regards to our recent conversation, please find following an initial outline and proposal of what will be designated as the Civilian Volunteer Force. Inspired by the American Civilian Conservation Corps during the Great Depression, the CVF will serve as a works program to begin reconstruction of our cities using the skills and talents of the refugees who have been displaced by the war. It will be administered by the military in cooperation with civilian authorities.
The first step that must be taken is to assess the work skills, experience, and knowledge of all refugees. Once this has been done, these individuals can be assigned their tasks for the reconstruction of Australia. Reconstruction can begin on the outer areas of the “blast zone” and over time work in towards ground zero.
Office of Reconstruction
The Civilian Volunteer Force should be administered at the federal level. It is proposed that the top administration officials be either a civilian with the Department of Defence, or by a general officer of one of the military branches as an equal member of the Chiefs of Staff.
CVF Divisions
It is recommend that the CVF be divided along the lines of a military unit, starting at a division level. For example, the CVF will have a Education Division, followed by Elementary, High School, and Trades Brigade, and then smaller units based on battalions, squadron, troop, section, and squad. Therefore, a group of science teachers at one school would be designated as such: Fairfield High School Science Crew, Fairfield/Smithfield Education Section, McMahon Education Troop, Sydney Education Squadron, New South Wales Education Battalion, High School Education Brigade, Division of Education.
There will be a rank structure along military lines, and each level will be commanded by someone of rank. Despite the military nature of this structure, there will not be military-level discipline. Due to the nature of the circumstances in which the project is being carried out, it is believed that a military-style structure would be most suitable for organisational reasons. This may very well be the largest works program ever devised, and the mobilsation of manpower on a military-like scale would be necessary.
The proposed divisions at this time are as follows:
Division of Education - Consists of elementary, high school, and trade teachers and administrators. Initially, they will be assigned to educational facilities at the various refugee centres. As schools are rebuilt or re-established in reconstruction areas, these volunteers can then be assigned to these locations.
Division of Health - Consists of medical personnel such as doctors, nurses, and emergency technicians. Like the educators, these individuals will be assigned to medical facilities at various refugee centres. As hospitals and medical clinics are re-built, these individuals will be transferred to these facilities.
Division of Security - Consists of former members of the Australian military or state police forces whose skills may not be needed in one of the other divisions. These individuals can be used to relieve the military of certain low-risk security duties. For example, providing security for a work crew in a reconstruction zone or in areas of the refugee camps.
Division of Construction - Consists of individuals who previously were employed in the residential or commercial industries. This will include those for infrastructure, such as roads and bridges. This will likely be the largest division within the CVF, and the one with the most work.
Division of Agriculture - These are those who can be trained in the farming and livestock industries. Australian farmers and herders will be encouraged to expand their operations with the help of those from the CVF. Government-sponsored crops can also be planted or livestock farms built on government-owned land and tended to by those of this division.
Division of Administration - This will consist of those professionals best suited for office work. This division will maintain all records of the CVF and be responsible for the procurement of all stores, supplies, and equipment needed by the CVF. This section will also be responsible for logistical matters. This division can be staffed by those who may not be suitable for physical work.
Division of Labour - Consists of those with no significant skills or trade and will be utilized as general clean-up crews and corpse disposal.
Incentives and Compensation
Short Term - Those who participate in the Civilian Volunteer Force will be given safe and secure shelter, hot nutritious meals daily, complete medical care, and educational services not only for the volunteer themselves, but their spouses and children.
Long Term - Those who remain a member of the CVF in good standing for three or more years (or a number of years to be determined later), will be eligible for free housing in one of the reconstructed areas, paid wages, and reduced-priced educational and medical services for themselves and their family.
Other - To encourage participation and to maintain high morale, it must be stressed that these volunteers should be proud of their work to rebuild their communities and their country. A sense of personal pride, and some control over their own lives should be noted. For some, it may serve as a “second chance” at life. For others, it will be an opportunity to learn new skills and better themselves. Overall, it will result in new communities with a population instilled with pride, self-worth, and a good work ethic in the post-war world.
As previously stated, this is only an initial proposal and is subject to revision and change based on input from yourself, the Cabinet, Parliament, and the Department of Defence.
Signed,
General Peter Courtney Gration
Chief of the General Staff
COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA
2 March 1984
Dear Prime Minister:
In regards to our recent conversation, please find following an initial outline and proposal of what will be designated as the Civilian Volunteer Force. Inspired by the American Civilian Conservation Corps during the Great Depression, the CVF will serve as a works program to begin reconstruction of our cities using the skills and talents of the refugees who have been displaced by the war. It will be administered by the military in cooperation with civilian authorities.
The first step that must be taken is to assess the work skills, experience, and knowledge of all refugees. Once this has been done, these individuals can be assigned their tasks for the reconstruction of Australia. Reconstruction can begin on the outer areas of the “blast zone” and over time work in towards ground zero.
Office of Reconstruction
The Civilian Volunteer Force should be administered at the federal level. It is proposed that the top administration officials be either a civilian with the Department of Defence, or by a general officer of one of the military branches as an equal member of the Chiefs of Staff.
CVF Divisions
It is recommend that the CVF be divided along the lines of a military unit, starting at a division level. For example, the CVF will have a Education Division, followed by Elementary, High School, and Trades Brigade, and then smaller units based on battalions, squadron, troop, section, and squad. Therefore, a group of science teachers at one school would be designated as such: Fairfield High School Science Crew, Fairfield/Smithfield Education Section, McMahon Education Troop, Sydney Education Squadron, New South Wales Education Battalion, High School Education Brigade, Division of Education.
There will be a rank structure along military lines, and each level will be commanded by someone of rank. Despite the military nature of this structure, there will not be military-level discipline. Due to the nature of the circumstances in which the project is being carried out, it is believed that a military-style structure would be most suitable for organisational reasons. This may very well be the largest works program ever devised, and the mobilsation of manpower on a military-like scale would be necessary.
The proposed divisions at this time are as follows:
Division of Education - Consists of elementary, high school, and trade teachers and administrators. Initially, they will be assigned to educational facilities at the various refugee centres. As schools are rebuilt or re-established in reconstruction areas, these volunteers can then be assigned to these locations.
Division of Health - Consists of medical personnel such as doctors, nurses, and emergency technicians. Like the educators, these individuals will be assigned to medical facilities at various refugee centres. As hospitals and medical clinics are re-built, these individuals will be transferred to these facilities.
Division of Security - Consists of former members of the Australian military or state police forces whose skills may not be needed in one of the other divisions. These individuals can be used to relieve the military of certain low-risk security duties. For example, providing security for a work crew in a reconstruction zone or in areas of the refugee camps.
Division of Construction - Consists of individuals who previously were employed in the residential or commercial industries. This will include those for infrastructure, such as roads and bridges. This will likely be the largest division within the CVF, and the one with the most work.
Division of Agriculture - These are those who can be trained in the farming and livestock industries. Australian farmers and herders will be encouraged to expand their operations with the help of those from the CVF. Government-sponsored crops can also be planted or livestock farms built on government-owned land and tended to by those of this division.
Division of Administration - This will consist of those professionals best suited for office work. This division will maintain all records of the CVF and be responsible for the procurement of all stores, supplies, and equipment needed by the CVF. This section will also be responsible for logistical matters. This division can be staffed by those who may not be suitable for physical work.
Division of Labour - Consists of those with no significant skills or trade and will be utilized as general clean-up crews and corpse disposal.
Incentives and Compensation
Short Term - Those who participate in the Civilian Volunteer Force will be given safe and secure shelter, hot nutritious meals daily, complete medical care, and educational services not only for the volunteer themselves, but their spouses and children.
Long Term - Those who remain a member of the CVF in good standing for three or more years (or a number of years to be determined later), will be eligible for free housing in one of the reconstructed areas, paid wages, and reduced-priced educational and medical services for themselves and their family.
Other - To encourage participation and to maintain high morale, it must be stressed that these volunteers should be proud of their work to rebuild their communities and their country. A sense of personal pride, and some control over their own lives should be noted. For some, it may serve as a “second chance” at life. For others, it will be an opportunity to learn new skills and better themselves. Overall, it will result in new communities with a population instilled with pride, self-worth, and a good work ethic in the post-war world.
As previously stated, this is only an initial proposal and is subject to revision and change based on input from yourself, the Cabinet, Parliament, and the Department of Defence.
Signed,
General Peter Courtney Gration
Chief of the General Staff
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Just another dialectical note, from what I've seen of Commonwealth militaries this is more likely to be "Ten-SHUN!" as in "attention".
I stand to be corrected as always
One of the issues with the CVF will be how will it fit in with people who aren't refugees, or with people who are refugees but then aren't. A couple of examples - an unemployed person from Hobart (not hit) - will that person be conscripted into the CVF? Kind of makes sense since they aren't useful where they are, but are you going to force them into the CVF at gunpoint if they don't want to move to NSW and live in a camp? Also, say you've been in a camp for a couple of months, you're an electrician. You're doing good work in the reconstruction of Sydney. You get a job offer in Hobart, are you allowed to go? Or are you now a member of the CVF underclass, basically a government serf?
I think these kind of societal tensions would be interesting to explore, a bit of grimness in what has been a pretty cheery story so far (for a P&S story).
I think these kind of societal tensions would be interesting to explore, a bit of grimness in what has been a pretty cheery story so far (for a P&S story).
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PimpLenin
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Sounds good to me! I made the changes.
No one is going to be forced into the CVF, and if you join you are free to go. However, if you don’t participate, you don’t get the perks. You’ll still get shelter, food, etc. but it won’t be as “nice” as those in the CVF. It’s like an airplane; you’ll all get to the same place but those in first class sure are having a nicer ride than those in the back. Also, if you leave before you put all of time in, you lose your shot at the long-term benefits. However, I understand what you are saying and it can be something to explore in future updates.
Would it though get advanced in terms of the telegraph because of the nukes?
A few semi-random thoughts...
With Melbourne spared Australia's aerospace industry is actually rather well off. GAF and CAC's main production sites at Fisherman's Bend haven't been hit while at least one of Qantas's heavy maintenance facilities has survived.
At the time GAF was producing the Nomad light transport... not the safest aircraft in it's class but in the aftermath of a nuclear war you can't be choosy.
CAC had built Macchi 326s through he 1970s... not sure if they'd be in a position to build more post-war. But more importantly they had experience building jet engines (license built Atar and Viper turbojets for the Mirage and Macchi during the 1960s and 70s) and substantial design experience... they pretty much totally reworked the F-86 when hoiking an Avon engine in and also a series of design studies for supersonic trainers through the late 1960s and early 1970s (CA-31 and AA-107).
I could well see Australia become a dominant player in the aviation industry once the actual post-war recovery starts hitting in the mid-to-late 1990s.
With Melbourne spared Australia's aerospace industry is actually rather well off. GAF and CAC's main production sites at Fisherman's Bend haven't been hit while at least one of Qantas's heavy maintenance facilities has survived.
At the time GAF was producing the Nomad light transport... not the safest aircraft in it's class but in the aftermath of a nuclear war you can't be choosy.
CAC had built Macchi 326s through he 1970s... not sure if they'd be in a position to build more post-war. But more importantly they had experience building jet engines (license built Atar and Viper turbojets for the Mirage and Macchi during the 1960s and 70s) and substantial design experience... they pretty much totally reworked the F-86 when hoiking an Avon engine in and also a series of design studies for supersonic trainers through the late 1960s and early 1970s (CA-31 and AA-107).
I could well see Australia become a dominant player in the aviation industry once the actual post-war recovery starts hitting in the mid-to-late 1990s.