That she was obedient towards him, she never tried to defy his wishes even though his claim to Bohemia and Hungary (and without those kingdoms Ferdinand would be powerless against Charles) came through her.
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That she was obedient towards him, she never tried to defy his wishes even though his claim to Bohemia and Hungary (and without those kingdoms Ferdinand would be powerless against Charles) came through her.
As they were married and he respected her, she had no reason for doing differently. Still Ferdinand received all the Austrian lands when he married Anna, so he was not exactly powerless. Consenting to her brother’s guardians to decide of her life when she is already a widow with two small children is not the same thing
Not to mention Anna and Ferdinand clearly must have gotten along well, they had 15 children after all....
What are Austrian lands compared to Burgundy and Spain? If Ferdinand had not received Bohemia and royal Hungary, he'd need to obey Charles without any independent politicking from him. Anna made an impression of very weak-willed woman, so she'd stay the same here.
Well that were your ideas about it. Ferdinand would be able to pursue his own politics independently from Charles if he wished as soon he was adult enough for doing it (again he inherited Bohemia and Hungary when he was 23 years old and was in Germany from less than 10 years at that time) and Anna was married for all her adult life to a man who she clearly respected and who protected her and their children so she had no reason to oppose him (as that would damage also her position and the one of their children).
So from where he could gather money and men if he didn't have Bohemia and his share of Hungary?
Austrian lands were poor, right, but is NOT like he would fight against his brother. Plus he would still be the Imperial vicar of his brother and able to do a lot of his own
Against whom? German princes? Probably yes, but if Louis somehow survived, Ferdinand wouldn't be counted among major European monarchs.
Yes, Ferdinand would not be among major sovereigns without Louis’ death (well unless he was still able to get elected as successor of Charles, who was quite easy, and Maria brought the Netherlands to his his son Maximilian)
I doubt that he'd be elected and I doubt that Maria would receive Burgundian inheritance.
He would be elected as the prince electors wanted prevent any risk of having Charles’ spanish son as next Emperor and wanted Ferdinand‘s powers to govern the Empire derived from being Charles’ elected successor (and I can not see things changing here). Maria was the most likely heir of the Netherlands until Mary Tudor‘s ascension to the English crown, so butterfly that and her line will receive Netherlands
Why was she most likely heir? Did Charles hate his son enough to deny him richest lands in Europe?
Because Charles was first Burgundian then anything else, while Philip was fully Spanish and
cared little for Netherlands (also is not like Philip would need them or suffer for their loss with the riches of the Spanish Empire at his disposal). What Charles wanted was leaving Netherland to someone of his blood who would care for them and Philip was not that person.
But still, even if Louis survived, Philip would need them (as IOTL) to incite Mary Tudor to marry him. You'd need to kill off Mary Tudor to have Maria & Maximilian get the Burgundian Inheritance.
No need to kill her. Edward can survive, being effective in excluding Mary from succession or Philip can be already remarried once Mary is Queen.
Either way, you'd need to have butterflies (not only knock-offs) involved.
Yes but stopping the chain of events who brought to Philip and Mary‘s wedding with a POD in 1526 is among the easier things to do... Also I can have Maria married to Francis I‘s youngest son (with Burgundy as dowry as was planned), Charles dying as OTL just after marrying her and she remarrying quickly to Maximilian...
To that one from Francis's sons who killed himself bc of fighting by pillows belonging to sick persons?
Yes. Charles V had offered to him the choice between his daughter Maria with Burgundy as dowry or his niece Anna with Milan in the last peace treaty or that period. He choose Anna and died before marrying her, but having him choose Maria, marrying her and dying in a stupid way (including the OTL one) would not require too much work or be too implausible
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But this Burgundy he'd receive was Franche-Comte, not whole Burgundian Inheritance.