The Great Turk returns - Alternate resurging Ottomans (1747-1947)

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Have the ottomans anything to win doing that? In otl, the russian emperor of the time was a hardcore legitimist, and so went out of his way in his self proclamed rol as the Gendarme of Europe. Unless the current Ottoman emperor has a similar ideological inclination, I dont see him doing the same unless there something to win geopoliticaly.
Simple to keep the balance of power the ottomans cant allow france to become unchallenged as they will fall not if but when. The ottomans can't even take Vienna, do they seriously want a nation carving up europe with puppet states to live. Nappy wants the holy see support conquer ottos simple. The ottos succeeded because europe was not united, united europe means the ottos will die.

The ottomans are muslim, brown (racism) and turkish no one in europe really actually likes them so its natural target.
 
Simple to keep the balance of power the ottomans cant allow france to become unchallenged as they will fall not if but when. The ottomans can't even take Vienna, do they seriously want a nation carving up europe with puppet states to live. Nappy wants the holy see support conquer ottos simple. The ottos succeeded because europe was not united, united europe means the ottos will die.

The ottomans are muslim, brown (racism) and turkish no one in europe really actually likes them so its natural target.
I agree on the idea that the ottomans need a balance of powers that alievates pressure from them, but I dont see the Ottomans expending their precious resources on saving the same europeans that in the next two minutes are gonna start conspiring to divide them. For great wars like this is best to enter in the last minute and dictate the peace ala USA. Russia style is different as their way into great wars is getting invaded quite profoundly into their territory and either collapse or punch back all the way into theirs enemy capital.
 
I agree on the idea that the ottomans need a balance of powers that alievates pressure from them, but I dont see the Ottomans expending their precious resources on saving the same europeans that in the next two minutes are gonna start conspiring to divide them.
thats the point the ottomans don't need to enter yet allow Europe to bleed, but they cant let the nappy win. The ottomans need to invest more than russia because they aren't Russia. Russia at the end was the most powerful Continental power in europe no one would challange them thats why prussia got so much. Porte is not that at end they will not be the Europe leading power so they have to show there part. Also europe will always be against the ottomans no matter what.
For great wars like this is best to enter in the last minute and dictate the peace ala USA.
They cant it was the russian armies marching into Paris that won the war i doubt the ottoman armies will march into paris they are not good enough. Also Britain is still strong, and Both Russia, and Austria will be lol no. For the ottomans to dictate peace they need to have there armies in western europe, in France, Germany and the Austrian empire (not in conquring but what the russians did when they marched to France) then ottos have the strongest hand as its there armies that hold the keys.
Russia style is different as their way into great wars is getting invaded quite profoundly into their territory and either collapse or punch back all the way into theirs enemy capital.
Zaragoza it make all the cities fortresses. Also fight the battles in Austria make all the battle be fought there cause max damage.
 
thats the point the ottomans don't need to enter yet allow Europe to bleed, but they cant let the nappy win. The ottomans need to invest more than russia because they aren't Russia. Russia at the end was the most powerful Continental power in europe no one would challange them thats why prussia got so much. Porte is not that at end they will not be the Europe leading power so they have to show there part. Also europe will always be against the ottomans no matter what.

They cant it was the russian armies marching into Paris that won the war i doubt the ottoman armies will march into paris they are not good enough. Also Britain is still strong, and Both Russia, and Austria will be lol no. For the ottomans to dictate peace they need to have there armies in western europe, in France, Germany and the Austrian empire (not in conquring but what the russians did when they marched to France) then ottos have the strongest hand as its there armies that hold the keys.

Zaragoza it make all the cities fortresses. Also fight the battles in Austria make all the battle be fought there cause max damage.
A few updates before, the Ottomans cede a lot to Austria to garantee their collaboration against Nappy IIRC. Maybe if ottomans troops get quite into Austria to "help" they could get their stuff back or interfere in the Hungarian crown against the Habsburgs. Or help out Prussia, the best european ally for the Ottomans in the near future.
 
A few updates before, the Ottomans cede a lot to Austria to garantee their collaboration against Nappy IIRC. Maybe if ottomans troops get quite into Austria to "help" they could get their stuff back or interfere in the Hungarian crown against the Habsburgs. Or help out Prussia, the best european ally for the Ottomans in the near future.
Prussia not yet they russia as their natural allie. The ottomans can do this by joining the coalition placing the armies in austria specially hungary and when austria peace out, seize it not much austria can do. They didn't secede land only two vassals banat and Transylvania. It would be in ottoman interest to be seen as the 'champions of thr Hungarians'. Ottomans dont need to really make the move during the war they can do it in the peace depending how pasha decides. But doing what russia did to finland here but instead finland is hungary and russia is ottos is possible.

Poland is a wildcard being an elected monarchy i guarantee nappy will defeat them and place a relative on there throne with an 'election'
 
Prussia not yet they russia as their natural allie. The ottomans can do this by joining the coalition placing the armies in austria specially hungary and when austria peace out, seize it not much austria can do. They didn't secede land only two vassals banat and Transylvania. It would be in ottoman interest to be seen as the 'champions of thr Hungarians'. Ottomans dont need to really make the move during the war they can do it in the peace depending how pasha decides. But doing what russia did to finland here but instead finland is hungary and russia is ottos is possible.

Poland is a wildcard being an elected monarchy i guarantee nappy will defeat them and place a relative on there throne with an 'election'
Maybe Nappy spooks the polish nobles into accepting a strong Monarchy after the Nappy's defeat. That could help Poland enough.
 
Maybe Nappy spooks the polish nobles into accepting a strong Monarchy after the Nappy's defeat. That could help Poland enough.
Right thing to do. However that implies poland exist the problem here poland has alot of reasons to side with nappy, also he can literally put who he wants on that throne means poland might side with france. 3 of the 5 would want to kill poland, britain won't care and might support as that means less land for them in the west. Ottomans will be against this but poland is a enemy of enemy is my friend type friend. Austria, russia, and prussia would most likely offer generous terms to the Ottomans in exchange for poland.
 
Dangers for the Royal Navy - 1808

The British had secured the Seas by 1805 and they were not to be challenged by any navy. There was one factor that still bothered the British Government. The Ottomans still had a large modern Navy with experienced men leading them. However, they were neutral and not pro-British in the war against France. In London, the admiralty, the King and the Parliament were considering a raid on the Sea of Marmara where the Ottoman Fleet is stationed. As almost anyone even regent of King George III, Prince George, agreed the plans were still not at the table yet. The dangerous part was how narrow the Straits are between the Sea of Marmara and the Aegean. A British Attack would be noticed and alarm the Ottoman Navy, even before the British Navy pass Malta. Another, maybe bigger problems were the forts on the Gallipoli Peninsula and Canakkale. The Forts were strengthened and expanded during the reign of Mahmud I. Sultan Osman III and Mehmed V had built new forts along the straits. There was zero chance the Ottoman Fortresses would not notice the British raid. The Plan to deal with these forts had to come up. Lord Arthur Wellesley suggested landing troops between 18,000 and 33,000 to occupy the important fortresses while the Fleet keeps sailing to the Sea of Marmara and take out the Ottoman Navy as much as possible. When the Ottoman Navy is destroyed, the Royal Navy will return back the straits and aid the Army who would have taken over the fortresses. The conquest of the Strait defenses were utmost important to force the Ottomans to accept British Terms. If Selim III fails to secure the Sea of Marmara, Istanbul is likely to starve as Anatolian Wheat and cattle supplies can not enter the city of almost a million. In result, Selim III has either accept an alliance with the British or risk being deposed by the starving Istanbul population. The plans were on the table but the idea to execute it was not there yet. The risk of a failure and forcing the neutral Ottomans towards the French was also there. With the French intervention in Spain and deposing Carlos IV, the British had different worries. Fernando VII fled to Lisbon where the Royal Navy and a British expedition Force would support his reconquest. General Arthur Wellesley changed his views and prefered to fight the French in Iberia first. If the Iberian campaign does not take too long then a pre emptive raid on the Sea of Marmara is not out of option anymore.



Russo-Turkish Treaty of Varna - 1808

Alexander I of Russia had continued his fathers plans to reconquer the Baltics. The Baltic Campaign started with a Russian Force storming Narva and crumbling Swedish defenses. The Swedes had no interest to fight a new war with Russia and preferred to return to pre-1787 borders if it meant a lasting peace. Alexander I had laid his eyes on Finland as well to completely secure the Baltics and St. Petersburg for the Russians. Russian expansion did not stop here either. The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was defeated in one campaign in Lithuania and reduced to a Polish Kingdom from Thorn to Lviv. The success of the Russians did not go unnoticed in Istanbul as well. Selim III as well as other government officials were least to say unhappy with Russian expansion West and decided to bring the ambassadors to Varna and to discuss the terms of the situation of Eastern Europe. Austria was invited as well as to prevent them from feeling kept out. The terms of the Varna Conference were:

  • The Remainder of Poland-Lithuania will become a Polish Kingdom led by King Stanislaw III, recognised by all attendants of the conference
  • The Kingdom of Poland will be a Russian Protectorate
  • Russia can not have more than 15,000 troops in the Kingdom of Poland unless a foreign power threatens Russian sovereignty West or South of Poland
  • Austria will incorporate Transylvania to the Austrian Empire but the ruling prince have to be a Hungarian or Romanian
  • The Austrians can not have more than 18,000 troops in Transylvania unless a foreign power threatens the sovereignty of the Austrian Empire
  • The Danubian Principalities of Wallachia and Moldova are in a personal union under Ottoman Protection
  • The Ottomans can not have more than 18,000 troops in the Danubian Principalities unless a foreign power threatens the sovereignty of the Ottoman Empire
  • The Ottoman Empire can not have more than 18,000 troops in the Crimean Khanate unless a foreign power threatens the sovereignty of the Crimean Khanate
  • Swedish Neutrality will be guaranteed by this treaty
  • Sweden can not have more than 30,000 troops in Finland unless a foreign power threatens the sovereignty of the Kingdom of Sweden
  • Freedom of Trade between the signatory states guaranteed
  • The Nations attending the Varna Conference agree not to join France or the United Kingdom of Britain and Ireland against any of the attending states

The treaty was signed. Selim III saved Poland from being absorbed by Russia or later by the Austrians and French led Prussia. Poland did not gain too much back from the Russians but was also put under Russian Protection. Many Ottoman Pasha’s were not pleased with a stronger Russia and abandoning Poland to a potential enemy. But Sultan Selim knew that the state was in no position to fight for Poland again like 20 years ago when the Ottoman State fought for the Persian Sovereignty. But Poland being placed under Russian Protection can have two possible outcome. Either the Russians take over the state entirely in later times or Poland remains a wild card that keeps the relationship between Russia, Austria and France tense. This ‘defeat’ was not taken lightly in Istanbul.



End of the Serb Rebellions - 1808

Ferhad Pasha had fought its way through Herzegovina and reduced the rebels to pockets of some hundreds of men. In Cetinje, Ferhad Pasha linked up with Hafiz Murad Pasha and moved East to crush the rebellion of Karadorde. The Prince-Bishop of Montenegro fled Herzegovina to Austria and then to Rome. The Herzegovina rebellion was over and costed over 1,879 people's lives. Total losses were over 5,000 on both Ottoman and Rebel sides. Herzegovina was returned to the Bosnian Ayans and order was restored. Although Herzegovina was brought back under Ottoman control it did not stop the purges led by the Ayans who wanted revenge from the Peasant class. Ferhad Pasha was ordered to keep the situation under control to avert friction between the Christian peasants and Muslim Landowners. His department prevented any kind of government control in this far corner of the Empire. The situation in Herzegovina was under control but tensions were still high. And the chances of a new rebellion are not against odds.

In Belgrade, Milos Obrenovic had sided with Hadzi Mustafa Pasha after being ousted by Karadorde in the Belgrade Pashaluk. Karadorde managed to reconquer lost territories in Bosnia and in some parts and even came in conflict with the Prince Bishop in Bosnia. With the odds turning against Karadorde, his conquests were reduced within two months and Karadorde was captured by the Bosnian Pasha and sent with a large escort to Istanbul. In Istanbul, the Rumeli Military Qadi’s will decide what the punishment for Karadorde will be. With the leaders of the Rebellions gone and the rebellions reduced to small pockets on the hills, the Ottomans have largely secured the Northern and Western Balkans.


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Alemdar Mustafa Pasha relieves Belgrade, 1807
 
sweden lost or is this the russian plan?
also isn't that treaty a bit lenient the ottomans barely got anything out of it.
Also another Russo-turkish war needs to be coming, i don't see russia getting all this now stopping. So Ottoman will allie with nappy for a bit.
 
sweden lost or is this the russian plan?
also isn't that treaty a bit lenient the ottomans barely got anything out of it.
Also another Russo-turkish war needs to be coming, i don't see russia getting all this now stopping. So Ottoman will allie with nappy for a bit.

Sweden gave up Estonia and Livonia per treaty after losing Narva to the Russians. The risk of war with Russia was high.

The Ottomans did not get much other than Polish Independence under Russian Protection. But even that, it is not taken lightly by the Government Officials. It is seen as weakness.

Another Russian War... you are more of an enthousiast of war vs Russia than Patrona Halil. The guy tried to escape Istanbul by starting a Military Expedition vs Russia.
 
Whats interesting and should be taken into account is britian top territorial expansion aim in europe will be a base in the Mediterranean, they need a land they use as a base. Naturally with Britian in Spain Gibraltar should become british as spain needs Britian Britian can literally just sieze it now. Im guessing @Koprulu Mustafa Pasha ruling getting ride of British Gibraltar he doesn't want britian to habe spanish land. This is interesting as there can't be a accepted peace without britain getting something in the Mediterranean. The only none spanish lands that would be possible is malta thats unlikely now, corsica maybe i can see that being possible, Sardinia or Sicily there big but britian will want a an island in the Mediterranean. Its going to br interesting britain will want land in the Mediterranean which means either spain or italy will give something up. Or they steal malta, crete, Cyprus away from the ottos.

I've got an idea of the relations post nappy will be prussia russia this is being ignored both nations like each other alot. Britain and austria. Austria will support britain ambition in the Mediterranean, and UK will want italy to be Austrian in exchange which expect for france no has a problem with. Maybe a restored bourbon france and ottomans to check Habsburg and british ambition. One of the original ideas the author had was a united Netherlands that has to be pro british as france can easily start shit in there. Sorry to keep bringing this up but that means the Dutch could offer south africa to the UK to stop belgium from breaking away. Spanish empire that i have no idea or spain in general. Prussia will not be as big in this world that was thanks to russia being BFFS they pushed for big prussia. @Koprulu Mustafa Pasha can you give a opinion on this without telling any or your plans would this make sense or anyone else.

Got a question about population with poland kinda fucked is there a migration of poles coming into the empire as the empire most likely seen as the friend and welcoming. Also how russified will they baltics be? As no southern ports means the baltics are more important. So the russians will make turning this land russian there main goal.
 
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Whats interesting and should be taken into account is britian top territorial expansion aim in europe will be a base in the Mediterranean, they need a land they use as a base. Naturally with Britian in Spain Gibraltar should become british as spain needs Britian Britian can literally just sieze it now. Im guessing @Koprulu Mustafa Pasha ruling getting ride of British Gibraltar he doesn't want britian to habe spanish land. This is interesting as there can't be a accepted peace without britain getting something in the Mediterranean. The only none spanish lands that would be possible is malta thats unlikely now, corsica maybe i can see that being possible, Sardinia or Sicily there big but britian will want a an island in the Mediterranean. Its going to br interesting britain will want land in the Mediterranean which means either spain or italy will give something up. Or they steal malta, crete, Cyprus away from the ottos.

I've got an idea of the relations post nappy will be prussia russia this is being ignored both nations like each other alot. Britain and austria. Austria will support britain ambition in the Mediterranean, and UK will want italy to be Austrian in exchange which expect for france no has a problem with. Maybe a restored bourbon france and ottomans to check Habsburg and british ambition. One of the original ideas the author had was a united Netherlands that has to be pro british as france can easily start shit in there. Sorry to keep bringing this up but that means the Dutch could offer south africa to the UK to stop belgium from breaking away. Spanish empire that i have no idea or spain in general. Prussia will not be as big in this world that was thanks to russia being BFFS they pushed for big prussia. @Koprulu Mustafa Pasha can you give a opinion on this without telling any or your plans would this make sense or anyone else.

Got a question about population with poland kinda fucked is there a migration of poles coming into the empire as the empire most likely seen as the friend and welcoming. Also how russified will they baltics be? As no southern ports means the baltics are more important. So the russians will make turning this land russian there main goal.

Spain, although being invaded by France, has no intent to give up Gibraltar. It is utmost important to keep it. Britain can not turn against Spain considering this is an opportunity to turn everyone against France. But they do want their position in the Mediterranean. An option for them is to lease a coastal city, island or peninsula. Gibraltar, Ceuta, Djerba, Malta, Oran and Menorca are an option. But that depends on what the other rulers want. Large islands like Sicily and Sardinia are not desired. It will upset European States while also make it harder to control. Crete and Cyprus are optional but only war makes it possible to get those islands.

Eastern European relations are complicated. Everybody mistrusts everybody. Prussia and Russia are in a difficult situation because Russia guaranteed Polish Independence under Russian protection. This means Russian borders have expanded to the Carpathian mountains even if it is Polish controled. And Russian Protection means Prussia cannot get desired Polish Lands. If French domination ends in Europe then Prussia needs compensation elsewhere.

European Balance would be quite... interesting. Everybody would still mistrust everybody but still would work together. However, some nations would be closer to each other. If a Bourbon restoration would happen, France would look for new potential allies. Spain as a fellow Bourbon state is given but Russia or the Ottoman Empire are optional as well. Depends on their relations with other European Powers. So... Prussia-Russia relationship will not be the same as OTL but not hostile either. The existence of Poland makes it hard to resemble to OTL. France will not be as agressive as pre-1815 but still try to rival Russia and Britain. Spain depends on how their 19th century era goes by. The Ottomans try to keep away from European problems as long as it does not threaten their interest. Poland for example is for them an example to keep European Powers away from getting closer, in this case Russia and Prussia.

I have no plans on South Africs yet... but it might not stay Dutch after all... however I can't tell you what it is going to be. Because I really don't know :/

Poland isn't necessarily doomed. It is still a Polish Kingdom but with much more Russian influence than ever. If Russian Influence grows, the odds of a hostile Polish population could result to rebellions with all things follow by.

The difference between the Baltics and the Crimea OTL is that the Baltics were loyal even after Russian conquered it and there was coorporation between German Elites and the Russians. There was no such thing in the Crimea. However, ITL there may be more Russians moving to the Baltics although there is a chance that more Russians will move to the colonies in the Americas (Alaska, Seattle/Pavlovgrad etc). We'll see...
 

Spanish Civil War - 1808


As soon as Napoleon invaded Spain, he ordered Carlos IV and Fernando VII to join him. Carlos IV was no longer king and abdicated in favor of his son Fernando. But Napoleon considered it as a great chance to replace the Bourbon Rulers with his brother Joseph. Fernando however, fled to Cadiz in hope to meet with the Royal Navy. Even if there was a small chance to repel the French Invaders, Fernando gave that up. Regardless of him fleeing Madrid, the people still considered Fernando VII as their King. Spain was thus divided and entered a Civil War. The people met with hostility to their new King but quickly turned neutral and started to like the new King. It was only the existence of the French Troops that was seen as an occupation. In Catalonia, King Joseph was favored. Fernando did not give up his rights for the throne however. His arrival to Cadiz was followed by a loyalty by the Spanish Navy, most likely to keep the Royal Navy from attacking. In Cadiz, Arthur Wellesley met with Fernando and plans were made to fight the French to drive them out. For that to happen, Fernando has to move to Lisbon as Cadiz was not safe from French Land Forces while Lisbon could easily be reached. Fernando demanded his Navy to set sail to Portugal as well and moved to Portugal with an Army of loyalists. Fernando’s Army was at best 60,000 men strong. The French had an Army of 200,000 men in Iberia. If the British do not bring enough men Fernando has no chance to regain the Spanish Throne. With his arrival in Portugal, it made the Portuguese uneasy with a large Spanish Army near Lisbon. With British Guarantees, the Portuguese were kept under control from getting suspicious. The problem became bigger as the French marched to Lisbon rather than Cadiz which forced Fernando VII to move to Porto in the North. The Portuguese Royal Family left Lisbon for Brazil. A same offer was made for Fernando by envoys from Cuba. Not willing to leave Iberia or in his opinion “being a hostage to his American Governors”, Fernando remained in Porto in hope for British arrival in Iberia. The risk of being captured by the French was still possible. As far as Napoleon considered, Joseph was King now and Fernando has no chance of regaining the throne. In London, the preparations were ready and the expedition had started to Iberia. Arthur Wellesley managed to get in contact with various governors and commanders to join Fernando. Suddenly, Fernando’s Support rose from 60,000 men to 250,000 men. The French Army of 200,000 men and Joseph’s Spanish loyalists of 110,000 men were still too big. Arthur Wellesley had a Force of 40,000 men and landed in Lisbon. From there, the Peninsular War officially started. With the Colonies officially proclaiming loyalty to Fernando VII, Fernando could still flee to a new home.



The Spanish in the Pacific - 1808

Since the days of Spanish Colonization of the Philippines, the Spanish created a route to the Americas with Asian Trade goods, the Manilla Galleons. The Ships were sailing from the brightest day to the most stormy weathers. In one of those stormy weathers in 1803, a Spanish escort to the Americas got of the route and ended up to nearby islands. Although the Spanish knew about the existence of the Hawaiian Islands, they did not do much with those Islands as it was not important. But the risk of Ships getting lost in storms and ending up to nearby islands with no supplies or nearby Spanish posts, the Hawaiian Islands gained interest of the governor of Manilla. Using Hawaii as a base for the Spanish Patrol Fleet. While the Escort to the Americas, the Santiago, returned to the Philippines again, the captain of the fleet informed the governor of the situation of Hawaii. With its King ruling there, the islands can easily be turned into a Spanish Vassal. With the British also settling in Australia and growing influence in the Pacific, a more aggressive Spanish activity in the Pacific between the Philippines and Spanish America is required. It would be a matter of time until the Russians meddle in the region as well. And thus started the Spanish Mission of three frigates from Manilla to Hawaii, supported with 120 soldiers, 15 cavalry units and 5 cannons aided by 12 missionaries. During the Arrival, the Spanish envoy wished to build a Naval Base in the Kingdom. Although the envoy was shown as peaceful, the Spanish Expedition did look for any information to use against the Hawaiians. When King Kamehameha kindly refused, the Spanish returned to their ships and started to bomb the islands. The expedition forces landed on the island and faced the Hawaiians. The differences in the battle came to light as the Hawaiian Forces had to deal with a more modern Spanish Forces. The Spanish had secured the beach, killing 239 Hawaiian soldiers while losing none. However, the situation became a bigger problem as more Hawaiian troops came to the beach. Around 4,000 soldiers were marching towards 135 men on the beach. The Captain of the expedition immediately called for a retreat back the fleet. The Spanish had gotten their information on the islands. The second time would be enough to make them accept Spanish Sovereignty. But the British presence is problematic. If the British do come in contact with the Hawaiians then the likeliness of taking over these islands become impossible. An island visited by British Missionaries is hardly impossible to meet the same people again. A second expedition with 1,300 infantry, 200 cavalry and 20 howitzers from Manilla would set sail with 8 frigates.




Literacy in the Muslim World - 1809

The Muslim world has problems with literacy among the populace. Printing press was introduced less than a century ago. In the Ottoman Empire, the most literate city would be Istanbul the capital. With less than a third of the population being able to read and write. The countryside is not any better for the Ottomans either with having less than a tenth of the populace to read or write. Selim III encountered the problem while he was in his tour in the Balkans. But the problem was bigger than he could deal with. With so many people living in the Empire, speaking different languages, what could he do to improve the literacy? In a Firman, Selim ordered the Sufi Orders and the Churches to improve the literacy of their religious base. Within the Empire, an average of 9% was literate. The opening of several universities like in Belgrade and Sarajevo it would not immediately help the population get literate but only keep the division between the elite and the poor class bigger. The remainder of the Muslim Nations were not much better off. Persia had a literacy of 12%, with Tabriz being its most literate city with less than a quarter of the population. The Shiite clergy in the countryside of Persia being the biggest factor why Persian Peasants were more literate than Ottoman peasants as well as not having too much ethnicities. The problem in Persia was different. The Turkmen and Persian Clergy were teaching in their own languages. Even if it was not intentionally, there was some kind of rivalry between the Persian and Turkmen Mullahs. Another better example was the Crimean Khanate. The Crimean Khanate had an average literacy of 29%, with Akhtiar having less than two fifths of the population being literate. The small population of around 8 million and more active government campaigns helped the small Khanate becoming the most literate Muslim State by 1809. As such, looking more to the West and their Ottoman Protector, Shahin I Giray desired to built a University having both Western and Turkic-Islamic influences. The influence from the West with regards to Liberalism and Nationalism would enter through the Crimean Khanate and Ottoman Empire and spread towards the rest of the Muslim World.


Average Literacy in the Islamic World by 1809:

  • Ottoman Empire: 9%
  • Persia: 12%
  • Crimean Khanate: 29%
  • Turkistan Khanate: 13%
  • Durrani Afghanistan: 14%
  • Morocco: 7%
  • Mughal Empire: 16%
  • Tripoli: 4%
  • Tunis: 14%
  • Algeria: 8%
  • Mali: 7%
  • Johore: 17%
  • Aceh: 11%
  • Brunei: 9%
  • Mysore: 13%
  • Hyderabad: 16%
  • Zanzibar: 8%
  • Bornu: 5%


Marriage of Prince Hyder Ali of Mysore and Fahriye Sultan - 1809


As the Indian Wars ended in an Persian-Company Victory, India was finally experiencing peace again. At request of Selim III, Mysore remained neutral in the war as much as possible only to face skirmishers with both the Marathas and EIC units. To Selim III there was more important matters to talk about. Tipu Sultans oldest son and heir, Hyder Ali (28) to be married to former Sultan Murad V daughter Fahriye Sultan (19). The marriage would be pure political. Selim had no possibility to aid Mysore if it ever was under threat by the EIC due to the rebellion. Much to his surprise, the Persians did better than he could expect. In a way to ensure Ottoman Influence in Southern India and to show that the Ottomans would not give up on their regional ally, a marriage was proposed. Apart from the marriage of Mohammed II who was the ruler of the Ottoman neighbour Persia and to ease the centuries long tension between the Sunni Ottomans and Shiite Safavids. The marriage with Hyder Ali was totally new as Mysore would still be an ally without such marriage. Selim III suggested it as to bring Islamic Rulers closer to each other. It would not be a surprise that Shahin I Giray would marry his youngest Sister Ayse Khatun to the heir of Ismail IV of Persia, Shahzada Ahmed. With many Females in the Ottoman Dynasty more marriages were considered. Regardless, the marriage between the heir of Tipu Sultan and the daughter of Murad V opened a new era for various Muslim States. It brought Muslim Powers closer to each other.



First Ottoman Joint stock Company - 1809

As soon as the Ottomans got rid of capitulations made to the French due to the revolution and to the British when the British were isolated, Ottoman Merchants could finally have a fair concurrence with European Merchants. Although opportunities were made, some merchants decided to strengthen themselves to concurrence by starting a company. Taking example of British, Dutch and French companies to trade, the first company was a trade company started by 23 Greek, 14 Armenian, 9 Jewish, 7 Turkish and 4 Egyptian merchants. Taking the EIC as an example in structure as much as Ottoman Law allowed them to. The Company would have its own trade fleet and stay stronger against European Concurrents. With Europe being warthorn, the alliance of Merchants had an opportunity. The Company started by offering their trade ships to carry cargo for merchants, in other words, to hire their ships to merchants going to foreign countries, becoming one of the first cargo companies. The problem was to find investors. To find people to sell their stocks to was another problem. As the problems became more serious, Sehzade Mahmud learned about the founding of the company and bought 12,5% of the stocks of the new company, even though he did not know much of stocks. With the creation of the Istanbul Trade League, a first stock exchange was opened as well, being supported by Dutch and French merchants living in Istanbul. And with Sehzade Mahmud buying the unknown stocks, some merchants as well as landowners got confidence as well. The Company started and the hardest part was over. A small yet first Ottoman Company was created. In decades of time it would grow. In a few years, it would start to trade with any nation that had ties with the Ottoman state, bringing Istanbul closer to their friends on the other side of the world.
 
Fantastic. Maybe Fernando could flee to Mexico city if things go wrong and we end with a Brazil like Empire of Spanish America. If the Philipins stay with Spain longer, I hope that the ottomans get to do something to protect the rights of the moro people. I dont mean annexation, I mean more like diplomatic preasure.
 
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