Stupid Luck and Happenstance, Thread III

Really enjoyed reading about Ben's work here. Hopefully Kiki knows a huge blown up copy of the first significant picture that observatory takes is going up in the study or living room, though.
 

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Lambs are cute but a nice lambrack marinated in orange juice, thyme and olive oil, nicely browned and finished in the oven with a herb and cheese crust... pink in the middle with a sauce of red wine, a bit tomato concentrate, sugar, mustard and cream...
 
Lambs are cute but a nice lambrack marinated in orange juice, thyme and olive oil, nicely browned and finished in the oven with a herb and cheese crust... pink in the middle with a sauce of red wine, a bit tomato concentrate, sugar, mustard and cream...
Just don't try Lamburger Helper. It's underwhelming.
 

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It‘s a bit past lunch time here so another favorite. Make a lamb burger. Bums as you like 200g minced lamb together with chili, chilantro, cumin, pepper salt and egg for each patty and a spread made of 1/3 each feta, cream cheese and joghurt (4% fat minimum), mint, lemon peel and juice, chives, garlic, olive oil and cayenne pepper. Combine and enjoy.
 
Gays should be just as discriminated ITTL as they were IOTL in the United States , it was IOTL June 22nd, 1969 when Judy Garland died that you had the Stonewall Uprising that sparked the Gay Rights Movement in the United States.
 
Gays should be just as discriminated ITTL as they were IOTL in the United States , it was IOTL June 22nd, 1969 when Judy Garland died that you had the Stonewall Uprising that sparked the Gay Rights Movement in the United States.

They seem to be more discriminated against ITTL...

In the US anyway - Germany seems about the same as OTL.

If we're going by a similar trajectory to OTL, it'll have been legalised in Scandinavia and the UK by now.
 
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They seem to be more discriminated against ITTL..
That is a good point but I don't see how much more oppressed the LBGTQ community could be compared to IOTL which included losing jobs, not being allowed to openly cohabiting with their partner, not being allowed to inherit money and property even if they are willed them, and don't forget being involuntary committed and medicated against their will in mental institutions.
 
That is a good point but I don't see how much more oppressed the LBGTQ community could be compared to IOTL which included losing jobs, not being allowed to openly cohabiting with their partner, not being allowed to inherit money and property even if they are willed them, and don't forget being involuntary committed and medicated against their will in mental institutions.

Fair point. It would be hard to get worse than OTL.

I suppose it's that from what we've seen, they seem to be more puritanical in general, plus kinda more proactive in the whole thing? Like, as an example, in Britain in the 60s before legalisation:

Wikipedia: Homosexuals were prosecuted and tabloid newspapers covered the court proceedings. By 1960, however, the police demonstrated little enthusiasm for prosecuting homosexual relations. There was an inclination to "turn a blind eye" to homosexuality, because there was a feeling that the legal code violated basic liberties.

It was a similar thing in Ireland in the 80s - it was still technically illegal, and anti-gay crime was pretty bloody nasty given that they couldn't go to the police, but in turn there wasn't really any enthusiasm for actively seeking gay people out and it was known who in various circles was gay. America seems more rabid than that ITTL, from the bit we've seen.
 
They seem to be more discriminated against ITTL...

In the US anyway - Germany seems about the same as OTL.

If we're going by a similar trajectory to OTL, it'll have been legalised in Scandinavia and the UK by now.

This rather unlikely, because atl-Germany never had the liberalism of the weimar republic, then the oppresion of the nazi-germany, following the two different Germany's with rather different ideas of why and how history happened.


Essentially 175 was not enforced reliably before ww1.
So it is likely that at some point a spd-government would have just stopped the enforcement all together.

And at some point the" de facto status" would have changed into the "de jure status", most likely by changing the definition to only encompass non-adults or something along those lines.
 
This rather unlikely, because atl-Germany never had the liberalism of the weimar republic, then the oppresion of the nazi-germany, following the two different Germany's with rather different ideas of why and how history happened.


Essentially 175 was not enforced reliably before ww1.
So it is likely that at some point a spd-government would have just stopped the enforcement all together.

And at some point the" de facto status" would have changed into the "de jure status", most likely by changing the definition to only encompass non-adults or something along those lines.

Hmmm... Really?

I'll admit that I was making inferences. Like, I thought part of the reason the Bonn Republic was so conservative in its early days was because it was trying to (as much as possible) harken back to the 'good old days' before Weimar and the Nazis, so assumed that a surviving Kaiserreich would be on the conservative-ish side, but...that makes more sense, TBH.
 
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Hopefully Kiki was able to give Nella and Nan a tour of the ship before shoving off.
Kiki should also realize that she is going to be the public face of the mission and a lot of her time is going to be spent on diplomacy and publicity so Kiki should just accept it.
There is of course going to be plenty of medical problems to address and some time off on shore leave which should get Kiki off of her internal depression feedback loop.

Ben is being smart in trying to get the locals involved with the new observatory as the improving economy of the area will mean that the younger people will stay.
There is going to be a need to eliminate as much of the potential light pollution as possible around the observatory.
Ben is going to get a lot of offers for Visiting Professorships because he owns the land that has the observatory and that must be worth something.
 
All it took to make Kiki look forward to actually marrying Ben was being ordered to sea for a year. Pity that it probably reinforced her deep-seated fears that she won't be allowed to marry him.
 
Part 115, Chapter 1911
Chapter One Thousand Nine Hundred Eleven



2nd July 1969

Potsdam

“It is an impressive feat” Louis Ferdinand said looking at the magazine cover which featured Benjamin standing among several University Department Heads and members of the Local Government in Bavaria at the dedication of the Argelander Observatory inside the magazine was a similar photograph with fewer people, but before the massive primary mirror that was at the heart of the telescope that the Observatory was being built around. “I am sure that Professor Hirsch must be proud of you.”

“He is, he just wonders exactly what I intend to do with the Doctorate” Ben replied glumly, “He thinks that I ought to go on to a Professorship like he did.”

“That might be a waste of your time” Louis said, “After this, you might be in high demand as a Project Director. Especially after this telescope first sees light.”

“That will be a year from now” Ben said, “One more thing that I have to wait for.”

Part of the reason that Louis had invited Benjamin Hirsch to his office was that he had wanted to see how the boy was fairing after Kristina had been called away on assignment. That had put their plans on hold until she got back. According to Louis’ source aboard the SMS Prinzessin Antonia Marie, Kristina was taking this turn of events slightly worse than Benjamin. He had understood that she had been ambivalent about the prospect of marriage. Yet apparently, she hadn’t been planning on backing out of it. Louis could only imagine what the two of them would have to say if they ever learned the truth about what had happened, that Louis himself had requested Kiki’s latest posting months earlier after she had asked the Medical Director at the University Hospital in Halle to begin disciplinary proceedings against her. That was due to her having missed two shifts because she had volunteered to come to Berlin to assist in the response to the deadly mass shooting that had occurred on the 30th of June 1967. Louis had felt that Kristina needed a reminder of how the world really worked as opposed to her idealistic perspective. The same perspective that caused her to blame herself when she inevitably came up short of her ideals. Months spent on a hospital ship where she would need to make do with whatever resources happened to be aboard had seemed like good experience for her.

Nearly two years later, Louis had discovered that there were several unforeseen consequences of that request, not the least of which was that the marriage plans that been put on hold. Then there were the tabloids which were having a field day with this. Headlines to the tune of Heartbreak in the House of Hohenzollern followed by articles about how Kristina and Benjamin had been childhood sweethearts and just when they were about to ride off into the sunset, a heartless system, which had little regard to personal feelings, had cruelly separated them. If they ever caught wind about what had truly happened, then Louis would have a major public relations problem, and that paled in comparison to what his daughter would have to say.

“Kristina will be back soon enough” Louis said, “And there is no reason why we cannot arrange for you to see her while she in the Caroline Islands or Taiwan.”

“Really?” Ben asked, brightening at the prospect of that.



Fort Drum, New York

All things have a beginning, middle, and an end. For Ritchie, the end started when Jules Mullens requested a transfer back to the 82nd Airborne with the promise of a cushy logistics slot. The tightknit team that had been together for years suddenly didn’t seem quite so tight because that had started a slow exodus as everyone started looking at what would await them after they were no longer in the Green Beret. Probably the biggest surprise was that Jamison Parker wasn’t just leaving the Green Beret, but the Army as well. Parker said that he had his reasons and had refused to elaborate further. Huck and Kravitz weren’t planning on going anywhere for now and Destrehan said that he had just gotten into this outfit.

Ritchie still had the offer from Captain Evans to consider, especially with Lucia telling him that she wanted to know that he was serious about them and there was not a chance in Hell that she was moving to New York. So, when was he going to be coming back to LA? What had once seemed completely unthinkable, working for the Los Angeles Police Department, suddenly didn’t seem so farfetched. It had taken Ritchie only a few minutes to get Evans on the line and he had learned that there were a few things that Evans could offer that might sweeten the deal, the most intriguing being that Evans had connections with the California National Guard. Meaning that Ritchie could start a new career in a matter of weeks with his remaining obligation to the Army being spent in a Guard Unit, playing at being Soldiers for a couple days every few weeks.

There were a lot of positives though. Ritchie would finally be able to go home because it would also get the assholes from the Detective Bureau off his back forever. He would be able to see Lucia every day as well. The only trouble was that even thinking of taking the offer made him want to kick his own ass.
 
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Chapter One Thousand Nine Hundred Eleven



“He is, he just wonders exactly what I intend to do with the Doctorate” Ben replied glumly, “He thinks that I ought to go on to a Professorship like he did.”

“That might be a waste of your time” Louis said, “After this, you might be in high demand as a Project Director. Especially after this telescope first sees light.”

“That will be a year from now” Ben said, “One more thing that I have to wait for.”
Does Albrecht need a second or someone to manage the next or some other future program? After this he would have punched all the right buttons to be considered for a slot at being if not #2 of a program to actually directing one in the Space administration.
 
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