Man a whole week? Why do psychology courses even exist when you can learn all you need to know in just a week?I had to stay a week in a psychiatric clinic.
Man a whole week? Why do psychology courses even exist when you can learn all you need to know in just a week?I had to stay a week in a psychiatric clinic.
Let's tell all psychologists and psychiatrists to quit their jobs right now because all we need is to resolve economic woes and mental health issues will disappear forever.
As an autistic person and a fellow socialist; what you're saying is at best ignorant and at worst hurtful and insulting.
Did you say autistics are psycho? What do you mean by normalize?I did not say that I know everything, but I said that I have experience of interacting with psycho .... Actually, I believe that we all, all people in one degree or another have psychic deviations. Actually, communism is the way for me to normalize humanity.
Forgive me - I'm again for the old. I propose to delete the entire "discussion" because it is meaningless.
I already deleted my part. I hoped to raise the problem and defend my views, but in the end I just broke the harmony. I appreciate everything harmonious and beautiful.No, this should probably be left here. Y'know, to remind people not to do it again.
About autism I'm not specifically - I just did not notice this part!@WotanArgead please don't make me regret defending you, dude. As someone with a mental disability (ADHD) I found what you said a bit insulting. Lets try to keep our shit on the down low.
Yes, but the thing is, speaking as a non-communist, the inherent ideological framework of a communist (even of the non-Soviet variety) is to ascribe anything bad or evil in this world to capitalism. The idea that a socialist society could still breed plenty of vicious, remorseless, compulsive murderers would be a very difficult pill to swallow for communists. There would be incidents, but they would be seen as just that, with little work being done on a co-ordinated national operation until later. Also, I'd bet you my firstborn that public militias would be incompetent at detective work by the standards of a modern police force.
This is very dogmatic indeed. It is well founded to say that OTL Soviet authorities were indeed tightly hobbled intellectually, but that is clearly and plainly due to having a police state. In turn you could suggest that any and all socialist regimes of every kind must be a police state and therefore have the same limits--which is what your saying "even of the non-Soviet variety" seems to imply.
But are you or are you not granting the premises of Jello's TL, within the TL anyway even if you are understandably skeptical it is plausible?
In this TL, the UASR was formed by a revolution that was not similar to the Bolshevik October Revolution; rather, a Socialist Party candidate was democratically elected POTUS, then a panicked bunch of conservatives killed him, which was the last straw for a very very broad coalition of more or less dissident mass movements, collectively adding up to a near or even actual majority of the nation, if we integrate from the most radical to moderates who did not themselves desire radical change in principle but certainly agreed that status quo was not working well enough, in view of President-Elect Thomas's murder and the attempt at a right-wing police state on top of the general failures of the Depression. Thus when the civil war concluded, there was not an all-powerful centrally ruled single Party with the notion of trying to control information and dictate what could be said--only a set of several radical parties with a penumbra of moderate reformists checking them. National consensus was that radical change was happening and it was good, but there was still free speech and organization of dissenting moderates was still legal--people who plotted violent counterrevolution were subject to being detected by tactics that would not pass Constitutional muster in modern OTL--or rather, would surely have been condemned at the height of the post-Watergate backlash, and would be condemned in principle as avowed policy any time between say WWII and the Reagan administration, certainly if our enemies practiced it, but if kept quiet might be allowed, and with the later conservative backlash asserting the importance of law and order and counter-terrorism overriding squeamish touchy-feely "coddling of criminals" might even be openly proclaimed to public applause today. Hoover's people can use entrapment and other dubious methods to flush out serious reaction, and if the Debs-DeLeonist party or some other centralized one had leaders with the agenda of getting totalitarian control, they could perhaps use the laxity of procedural restrictions to panic the masses or silence inconvenient dissent.
But in fact, if we take Jello at her word (and I think it is plausible enough, given the back story of several decades before the Revolution in America) there are several layers of checks preventing such a totalitarian takeover. For one thing, the Debs-DeLeonists themselves don't want that; they have lively democratic debate within the party and have not ruled extra-party intellectual activity as inherently vicious and subversive. I would think among them, especially given that they attract people of the basic mentality as say J Edgar Hoover or Richard Nixon, that there are "hard heads" of that type, but there are enough free-spirited types or deeply principled enough to check that within that Party.
Second, the D-DL party does not rule unrivaled; the set of parties that do rule most strongly are of a consensus, more or less, but there is enough diversity that no one central body runs things unchecked and without disclosure. The centrally powerful radical communist, syndicalist or socialist parties know that they have to demonstrate the superiority of a socialist system to conservative skeptics, who are themselves free to organize in a couple of dissident parties which have some status and power in the capital and in their strongholds. The socialists rule because they can deliver results, while under scrutiny and heckling by conservatives--and if the conservative voices are muted, it is largely because their grosser charges against the socialists are proving ill founded. They are shamed into keeping quiet not by organized terror but by looking ridiculous. Indeed conservative carping might get some people into serious hot water--because the masses of Americans not incorrectly link propertarian priorities with sharp and massive instances of general misery, such as the carnage of the Great War, the privations of the Depression, and the violence and betrayals of the counter-revolutionary coup the revolutionaries managed to overcome, but at a cost. But it is understood that large masses of Americans, for one reason or another, are not on the socialist bandwagon by inclination and need to be persuaded, and that "persuasion" of a terroristic kind is not an option.
Given all this, it is not unreasonable that the ideology of human psychology and deviant behavior being a mere refraction of the social order, and attributing everything bad to projections of capitalism which would therefore automatically go away when capitalism was removed might lead this rather powerful (and trusted) central police authority astray from the most effective detection strategies, and indeed unjustly point a finger at the innocent instead. But the UASR police do not enjoy the luxury of OTL Soviet organs of silencing whomever they like and operating with no accountability to anyone but the Party central authorities, able to stop all dissenting inquires in their tracks and indeed discourage even the most cautious and tentative voicing of any dissent whatsoever. If someone a lot of people suspect might be innocent is being railroaded, it is possible to say so without fear of being disappeared in turn. Sadly the authorities, in making wrong arrests, are liable to finger people who are not popular generally--but how is this worse than OTL? If anything I think clearly even the most zealous days of revolutionary fervor, when the simplistic model of "crime=capitalism" has not yet been proven hopelessly inadequate the opportunities for third party interventions questioning the state's infallibility would be better, not worse, than OTL.
So the post by Mr. E begins by acknowledging that big mistakes were made, and those you can blame on socialist ideology in an unevolved state. They arrogantly erred, but were eventually forced to recognize they were going astray and were forced therefore to revise their ideology.
It is here you seem to have a serious problem recognizing that socialists can be sane and reasonable human beings. This is really very essentialist thinking, isn't it? In the ATL, at any rate, they prove they can and do function as well as capitalist agencies can. They can produce a war-winning level of industrial production, they can provide housing and food and other essential needs for all, they can provide for art and culture. And they support a competitive political system in which divergent views can be expressed--in which as Yakov Smirnov's joke goes, "in Soviet Russia too we had freedom to speak--but in America you have freedom after you speak. It makes a difference!"
You can bet your firstborn as freely as you like because there is no way to settle the bet, but all you have to prove that socialist police must be incompetent relative to the professionals of the capitalist world is pure ideological say-so. In fact, from the point of view of enforcing regime priorities, people seem to agree that the Soviet bloc police organs were chillingly effective; if they could not solve a problem it was generally because their bosses did not care to. They were not able to do things like shut down the black markets--largely because Stalinist bosses found that if they did crack down on one criminal operation, three more would take their place--and this was because the Soviet system did not provide well for worker needs, so the "on the left" black markets were brought into being by sheer demand--in some forms, even by sheer demand of the industrial enterprises as well as of their workers. Permitting a certain degree of black market operations was not just a safety valve but an economic lubricant that official sector managers had to rely on to meet their ostensible Plan goals. In other words, they resigned themselves to it.
But no one ever claimed that the life of a pro-Western spy or conspirator in a Leninist country was an easy lot! I don't think one can point to a Soviet counterpart to Oskar Schindler for instance.
So the question is not whether socialist police can be capable, but whether they can use their powers for good. Or acknowledging that police who comply with liberal values have a harder job than those of an authoritarian state, given that a socialist society that is also libertarian exists, can it have police as good as the capitalist ones? I think if the departments are just as good, the overall outcomes will be better because of democratic oversight over their operations that OTL in capitalist societies is often frustrated by the vested interests of the wealthy, who can effectively take priority in ostensibly democratic government bodies, such as legislatures, executive offices and so forth. Not to mention the pro-property and propertied biases of the judicial system! These create refuges of privilege versus the general lot of most citizens; in a system that substitutes formal state power (and responsibility) for the "natural" operations of wealth and the interests of the wealthy, there is serious danger of crony coverups, but when the state is balanced among several competing parties the opportunity for covering up against the impartial workings of rule of law is much reduced.
Give the UASR cops credit for being human enough to prefer success to failure, to want good collars and not just to sacrifice the first mook they happen to stumble on. Factor in external factors such as being disproven and shamed by amateurs with a point to make which they cannot simply quash but must face in public.
They would change their thinking soon enough.
I do not think - in the USSR, the very idea of corporal punishment was condemned. Given that much of the Red America is controlled from below, such cases will try to adjust from below.Could child abuse be ignored, since only a poor person would abuse his children?
I'm not sure what to say Russia so often here is appropriate. In the USSR there was a process of integration and the formation of a supra-national community. In the third Soviet Constitution (1977) it is written - "a society of mature socialist social relations, in which, on the basis of the convergence of all classes and social strata, the legal and de facto equality of all nations and nationalities, their fraternal cooperation, a new historical community of people - the Soviet people."Rossiyan
Required there must be a pioneer-girl with a bouquet of flowers!4. Relocation
Once you've passed the interview, they ask you for a date that would be convenient for you to leave (while they arrange for international travel, you are responsible for domestic travel)
On August 10, 2006, I boarded the flight from Rio de Janiero to Moscow. It was a day that I'll never forget. When I arrived at the terminal, I was already nervous about my decision even though I hadn't even gone on the plane. Part of me wanted to stay. I still felt the anti-communist propaganda thundering in my mind. My fellow Brazilians, even ones who were very poor, were also very reluctant. But when got to our gate, we saw these Soviet teenagers holding up this banner.
They were trying to say Welcome Brazilian Comrades, but these kids wrote the Latin script terribly. Nevertheless, me and the other immigrants were very touched by what we saw. It helped reduced our anxiety about leaving our homeland.
Our flight lasted about 16 hours, until we finally landed in Sheremetyevo International. When we got there, we were greeted by immigration official who were waving a flag.
It is worth writing that they will necessarily ask about Brazil. This happened in OTL. Of course the country is much more open, but they are still on opposite sides of the barricades.5. Settlement and Assimiliation
After another flight, I landed in the Belgorod Oblast. The first month was both hard and easy. Hard because I had to learn the Cyrillic alphabet and language and understand the Soviet way of life, easy because I didn't have to work until I did understand these things.
Making friends was not really that hard. My fear was they would look down at me for being a middle class Brazilian, but aside from some teasing and light bullying for being a blue, I was able to build relationships very quickly. We Brazilians are social animals after all.
Adapting from a bourgeois lifestyle to a Russian proletariat lifestyle is hard. Going from owning a home to sharing a 3 story apartment with 20 people, going from hiring a maid to cleaning a floor is difficult, and working on one of those household plots can be a difficult transition (I accidentally destroyed a strawberry bush the first time a tried gardening), but not only is it possible, I found it to be a life I could enjoy, as many residents try to help you along the way.
The supervisors in Russia are very, very strict. They give you a lot of trust, but they expect a lot of good work in return.
Eventually, I fell in love and married Natalia, a pretty nurse, and we now have two children.
Required there must be a pioneer-girl with a bouquet of flowers!
It is worth writing that they will necessarily ask about Brazil. This happened in OTL. Of course the country is much more open, but they are still on opposite sides of the barricades.
It was a joke ... but as always there was a joke in it. Before the Congress of the CPSU Congress / Supreme Council meetings on a special occasion, young pioneers with flowers ran up to members of the Politburo / Presidium. If the head of a foreign country came, he was also met by girls with a bouquet of flowers. This also happened if a foreign guest, an astronaut, an academician ... even the Chairman of the Obkom came to the pioneer camp, then a girl with a large bouquet of flowers still came out. I do not think that democratization will save us from this singularity - the propensity for lush meetings, the desire of leaders to decorate the "front door".Did that happen OTL?
In principle, everything. Here it is necessary to note what is the situation in the country. If you were in the early 80's, you would have asked about deficit, fashion, and censorship.What would they ask about?