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Some of this was already covered in Jello's Snow White Review and my own WWII Animation piece, though I will retcon one part of my piece.
Walt Disney: an Animated Life
[....] Snow White was the vanguard of animated social realism, replacing the fairy tale elements with more realistic and social friendly replacements, (making Snow White a simple peasant girl rather than a princess, for instance) while also using more realistic and experimental animation. Disney continued this trend, when he made Alice in Wonderland, showing a more twisted and demented Wonderland than portrayed in the Lewis Carroll novels. John Carter, the black sheep of early Hyperion, largely by being mostly made by animator Bob Clampett of Merrie Melodies, which was finished by Hyperion animators after Clampett failed to get support there or any other collectives, was more hectic and frantic, befitting of an action science fiction film. Even then, the aesthetic of the film owes more to the Soviet film Aelita than to the original stories. In the mid-30's, Disney decided to raise Morty's profile by creating a short based off the Johann Wolfgang von Goethe poem The Sorcerer's Apprentice and set to the tune of the Paul Dukas piece based off the same poem. After meeting Leopold Stokowski, conductor of the Philadelphia Orchestra, to do the music, the short quickly expanded into several shorts, each using a classical piece as the backdrop of the animation. It was the most ambitious Disney film yet.
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As work finished up on Fantasia, Disney got a call from Foreign Affairs. They had noted the popularity of Disney cartoons in the newly Communist nations of Central and South America, including those of Morty Mouse and Donald Duck. Some ambassadors even requested reels of the cartoons to bring home with them. With the ascension of Integralist Brazil, Foreign Affairs decided to create a Hyperion film to help connect the people of the UASR and the Latin Communist states, to show why the UASR must defend them from Brazil. A common story has Foreign Secretary John Reed himself calling Disney up to discuss the particulars of the films (which is untrue, although records indicate that he did approve the action) Disney agreed, and after the release of Fantasia took a group of animators around Latin America, where they observed traditions and photographed the cities. They also made shorts to play between the footage, emphasizing Latin American traditions in the form of slapstick comedy. Saludos Camaradas became a cult hit in Latin America, because of its appreciation of their traditions and culture.
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Despite making wartime propaganda, regular feature films were still made. Bambi, based off the novel by the exiled Austrian author Felix Salten, was released in 1942, a look into the life of a deer of the same name. Disney also read a British book at that time, Victory through Air Power, by Alexander P. de Seversky, a Russian American emigre to Great Britain. Impressed, he made a film version to get de Seversky's ideas around. Despite his and Disney's differing politics, de Seversky did appear in the film. Other films considered included The Reluctant Dragon , a film about the making of an animated feature, and a film based off the stories of Joel Chandler Harris, whom Disney had grown up reading (the latter was rejected because of the racist overtones and "Lost Cause" tone of most of those stories)[1].

[1] OTL, this film became Song of the South.
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I'll do one last part going into the 50's. However, I would like to know if how amusement parks would work in the UASR. Obviously, Disneyland is impossible ITTL, but would a smaller, more localized version of it work? No expansion beyond one park.
 
Thread Tittle: Opinion on Leon Trotsky
Religious_Commie said:
So I have a question for you guys on both sides of the Iron Curtain, what is your opinion on the legendary revolutionary and hero Trotsky? Now I personally respect him a great deal, an intelligent political writer, the man who helped lead the Comintern organization to it's present role in international politics as the international forum of discussion and debate in the communist block, was Lenin's right hand man and was one of the main inspirations and influences of the First Cultural Revolution in his Permanent Revolution concept and was a man who was greatly respected by the left in the Communist Party of America even before the revolution. Now not to say he was perfect or anything, he certainly made his own blunders and mistakes but on average I would say he made more correct and moral decisions than immoral and incorrect decisions. So what is your opinion on the man?
OOC: Now I genuinely do respect Trotsky and thus I wanted to post this idea to see how other people would think characters in universe would think of the man.

Also yes I understand that Trotsky did do bad things historically and was not a saint so please don't ban me for thinking I'm somehow promoting mass murder or something.

Also Mr. E I greatly enjoy the second part of your Disney piece, you could check with Jello to see if it could be canonized since I think it's good enough. Now personally I think that it is possible for their to be a theme park, though that may just be because I actually greatly enjoy theme Parks and have gone to Disney World, which was a lot of fun.
 
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OOC: Now I genuinely do respect Trotsky and thus I wanted to post this idea to see how other people would think characters in universe would think of the man.

Also yes I understand that Trotsky did do bad things historically and was not a saint so please don't ban me for thinking I'm somehow promoting mass murder or something.

Dear Comrade Derekc2.
I can not say in an alternative world are Trotsky, but I know how to relate to Trotsky in Russia today. On the forums most of his curses, there was even one alternative in the style of "alien bats", which Trotsky became the head of the United States, and made war and terror and the world. His most criticized patriotic-spirited individuals. There was a Trotskyist, but he was sixteen years old, and do not take in serious. Critics - Belyaki (monarchists and fans Kolchak), Stalinists, Nazis, and liberals. His ideas are very privratno interpret and accused of all mortal sins.
It should be noted that he tried reabelitirovat in the perestroica.
 
. . . Wotan, you really are not making your point clear, are you stating I'm incorrect for respecting Trotsky or something else.
 
I'll do one last part going into the 50's. However, I would like to know if how amusement parks would work in the UASR. Obviously, Disneyland is impossible ITTL, but would a smaller, more localized version of it work? No expansion beyond one park.

I heard that Disney wanted to make Disneyland a model for cities of the future. It is possible the government may be interested. Especially considering that the revolutionary fervor have at that time did not go out.
 
I heard that Disney wanted to make Disneyland a model for cities of the future. It is possible the government may be interested. Especially considering that the revolutionary fervor have at that time did not go out.
Yeah, EPCOT. That was an idea I had. I'll explain it more in detail in the next one, but he'll become more interested in futurism after the war, as he did OTL, and he's going to try to design a sort of "City of Tomorrow" in the 50's, in the vein of EPCOT or Tomorrowland. One which would symbolize socialist standardization. This would be displayed in form of a theme park he builds in a few acres of land allocated to him by the government in Florida, to create a study of the idea.

And on to the discussion:
Opinion on Leon Trotsky
TotalBrit said:
Like his contemporaries, Lenin, Stalin, Foster, Browder, he is emblematic of the tendency of political authoritarianism among the Marxist left. Of course, I'm not saying that all Marxists are authoritarian, but the early leaders of modern communist nations were very authoritarian, and they did brutally repress their opposition. Granted, Trotsky wasn't nearly as bad as Stalin in that respect, but he still has to carry some of the blame for those atrocities committed by the Red Army during the Civil War, or his support of the Red Terror in the early UASR.
SkaelingKing said:
I do agree that Trotsky needs to be held accounted for the war crimes of the Red Army. So, for that matter, does Kolchak and others for the White Army.And you want to talk about atrocities in your early days? You know Churchill, the man you and that moron RuleBritainnia admire so much? He refused to send shipments of food to Bengal during the famine there in '43. 3 million people died in that famine. That seems like a rather large atrocity to account for.
NestorMakhno said:
Before this goes off-topic, I greatly admire Trotsky. I've read most of his work on the Permanent Revolution, and how to correctly operate Comintern. Yes, he did commit war crimes, (which is unjustifiable by all accounts) and he was not perfect. However, that doesn't change his intellectual influence on the Internationale. If you want some interesting readings, go read "The Trotsky Diaries". It tells the story of his life in Metropolis after he moved there, as well as his travels including his visits to Mexico, the Socialist Republic of Japan, the Dominion of India, The Republic of China, and even Palestine.
 
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Well, I've written another three part biography. People seem to enjoy it, so...

Walt Disney: an Animated Life

After the end of the war, the first immediate change in media was the spread of television. Previously an expensive novelty, by the late 40's, many households in the UASR had one television in their homes, and it would only continue growing from there. At the time, there were only 6 TV stations, utilizing the "Public Broadcasting System" previously used on the radio. Starting out merely broadcasting public announcements and news, there was a sudden need for entertainment. And for small children in collective housing, there was The Donald and Morty Show. Based around Hyperion's two biggest stars, Morty Mouse and Donald Duck, the show was basically an anthology consisting of old shorts, as well as newly animated ones. However, there were also live action educational segments where kid hosts (led by older host Jimmy Dodd) would travel across the nation, and look at various industries and conduct interviews. These live action segments ended up becoming more popular with the young audiences than the re-aired cartoons. It inspired a second series, a documentary series called The World, which was a documentary series made in collaboration with the National Geographic Society. It had a more international focus, with episodes set all over the world, revolving around different topics. It had no hosts, but Walt himself would give a short introduction before each segment, detailing what it was about.
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Like the rest of the nation in the late 40's and 50's, Walt became more fascinated with futurism. He began to read articles on the work of the Secretariat of Aeronautics. An entire episode of "The World" was in fact based around the possibilities of Space exploration, including work at the JPL and Huntsville. However, Walt became more obsessed with city planning. He had noted the archaic design of buildings in the Soviet Union, and the difficulties rebuilding there following the war. There was also the large ongoing urban renewal still taking place following the revolution. He decided to create a community for tomorrow, a sort of exemplar socialist community, built from the ground-up. This would become known as the "Experimental Prototypical Community of Tomorrow." The basic idea was place where everything was produced with the city, with everyone both living and working there. Each person lives in collective housing, with rooms for entire families. Disney began to assemble other people with how such a community would work.
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Disney decided to display his city in a demonstration. Sort of a "practical theme park", where people can see how a future world may work. It also had an actual amusement park dedicated to old Hyperion films. He submitted the proposal to the government, who accepted such a demonstration, and allocated some acres of land in Florida to build such a place in 1951. After 5 years, EPCOT was opened to the general public. Premier Nikita Khrushchev was one of the guests at the opening. While the press in the AFS sphere mocked the idea of "government subsidized amusement park", the attraction became wildly successful, and is one of the most popular theme parks in the world
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And while I'm at it, I might as well as about talk about something. I was reading through this TV tropes page: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.p...nismFell?from=Main.WhyWereBummedCommunismFell . I wonder, if and/or the FBU fell, would the UASR go through a similar period as the US after the USSR fell. The UASR is more militarized, so how would the loss of a major enemy affect them economically,politically, culturally.
 
And while I'm at it, I might as well as about talk about something. I was reading through this TV tropes page: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.p...nismFell?from=Main.WhyWereBummedCommunismFell . I wonder, if and/or the FBU fell, would the UASR go through a similar period as the US after the USSR fell. The UASR is more militarized, so how would the loss of a major enemy affect them economically,politically, culturally.

I'm not sure. On the one hand in the case of the victory of communism will have developed the concept of "end of history", but the very way of thinking requires the end of all wars, famine and disease (especially considering that the main cause of war on Marxism - economic). Militarization has to be justified, in reality it has become oprovdanie regime of Saddam Hussein and Islamic terrorism.
It should be noted that the way FBU collapse should lead to a resurgence of neo-Nazism or fascism, as they say in my country (this happened in post-Soviet Russia).
I by the way the question - how much is a ticket to Disneyland?
I have heard that they are terribly expensive in OTL.
 
I'm not sure. On the one hand in the case of the victory of communism will have developed the concept of "end of history", but the very way of thinking requires the end of all wars, famine and disease (especially considering that the main cause of war on Marxism - economic). Militarization has to be justified, in reality it has become oprovdanie regime of Saddam Hussein and Islamic terrorism.
It should be noted that the way FBU collapse should lead to a resurgence of neo-Nazism or fascism, as they say in my country (this happened in post-Soviet Russia).
I by the way the question - how much is a ticket to Disneyland?
I have heard that they are terribly expensive in OTL.
The victory of the world revolution would actually lend more to the "End of History" scenario, because the end goal of communism is seeing through the dissolution of the bourgeois system, which would be achieved if the FBU and AFS collapsed into left wing governments or a series of ultra-right wing fiefdoms
I suppose the rise of fascism and Nazism in post-FBU Britain and France would largely be a militant resistance force to a center-right or Left wing government that leads the collapse.

It's around $105-155. Yeah, very expensive, though it a very popular attraction.
 
The victory of the world revolution would actually lend more to the "End of History" scenario, because the end goal of communism is seeing through the dissolution of the bourgeois system, which would be achieved if the FBU and AFS collapsed into left wing governments or a series of ultra-right wing fiefdoms
I suppose the rise of fascism and Nazism in post-FBU Britain and France would largely be a militant resistance force to a center-right or Left wing government that leads the collapse.

It's around $105-155. Yeah, very expensive, though it a very popular attraction.

I talked about non-government and anti-government movements.
1 $ = 70 R
Devilish how expensive! I hope the prices are lower in the Red America.
 
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And while I'm at it, I might as well as about talk about something. I was reading through this TV tropes page: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.p...nismFell?from=Main.WhyWereBummedCommunismFell . I wonder, if and/or the FBU fell, would the UASR go through a similar period as the US after the USSR fell. The UASR is more militarized, so how would the loss of a major enemy affect them economically,politically, culturally.
I got the idea! According to Marxism, our story is not even history (so for a long time in the Soviet Union an alternative history is not in demand (not only so but that's another conversation) Our Story -. A bunch of wars on any wacky occasion exploitation of the human person, and the loss of knowledge and works of art at the whim of the invaders The era of communism -. the era of universal peace and labor.
 

In all honesty, it wouldn't surprise me if a few FBU knock-offs end up like this...

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Well, here in the insanely expensive Disneyland amusement park, though .... this idea is in the air, if in your language of this metaphor is not that I will explain - too obvious that would not think of.
And I still hope that the ticket will be cheaper in USAR.
 
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